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Leaps-from-Shadows Send message Joined: 11 Aug 08 Posts: 323 Credit: 259,220 RAC: 0 |
Seagate SV35.3 ST3500320SV 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Rather than that one, I'd recommend the Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3500320NS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM. From Seagate's web site: Key Features and Benefits * Perpendicular recording technology for maximum capacity * 24x7 operation and 1.2 M hrs. MTBF * Dynamic power saving using Seagate PowerTrimâ„¢ technology * Broad spectrum rotational vibration tolerance at 12.5 rads/s2 * Error recovery control - quick error resolution to prevent system timeouts * Workload management to ensure operational reliability * Quick and robust download with firmware security checks * Write Same command for efficient RAID initialization * Idle Read After Write data integrity checking * 32-MB cache * Low total cost of ownership * 5-year limited warranty It's from their current flagship enterprise-class SATA drives - the Barracuda ES.2 line. Check out the data sheet. Cruiser Gateway GT5692 L-f-S Edition -Phenom X4 9650 CPU -4GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM -500GB SATA HD -Vista x64 SP1 -BOINC 6.2.19 32-bit client -SSE3 optimized 32-bit apps |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Seagate SV35.3 ST3500320SV 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM I would agree with you but........... Yikes.....did you read the customer reviews on Newegg? Too many folks reporting short term drive failures.....on an enterprise grade drive??? This worries me.... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Leaps-from-Shadows Send message Joined: 11 Aug 08 Posts: 323 Credit: 259,220 RAC: 0 |
I would agree with you but........... I'm assuming that more than sixty-some people have bought those drives. I might be wrong on that though... Seriously - like everything else on an internet forum, the only people you tend to hear from are those with problems. And the enterprise-class drives from other manufacturers (checked on WD, Hitachi, and Samsung) aren't available on Newegg, or have no reviews at all. Cruiser Gateway GT5692 L-f-S Edition -Phenom X4 9650 CPU -4GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM -500GB SATA HD -Vista x64 SP1 -BOINC 6.2.19 32-bit client -SSE3 optimized 32-bit apps |
The Fiend Send message Joined: 23 Sep 01 Posts: 6 Credit: 3,051,288 RAC: 0 |
Freddie Mercury said it best ... Another One Bites The Dust I have been keeping an eye on this thread, but felt I could no longer keep my opinion to myself. Blaming it on the fact that the drives were manufactured in Thailand is just stupid. Hard drives from any manufacturer, and produced in any country can go wrong and do go wrong. You might notice from my profile I have my location set to Thailand, but I am not Thai and I don't live there, but I do spend a couple of months there a year on holiday. The quality of goods manufactured in Thailand is as good as anywhere else in the world...... counterfeit watches excluded!!!! And when people start quoting figures like MTBF remember what it means..... "Mean Time Between Failure"..... in other words an average time... some will fail before that figure and some will fail after it. It happens. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Freddie Mercury said it best ... Another One Bites The Dust Yes, but not 3 of them within 60 days!!! And I made the point in another post that I wonder if some of the current 'Seagate' drives are now being made in some of the production facilities that they acquired when they bought up other manufacturers, and may not be up to past Seagate quality standards........ And the comment you quoted was made rather tongue in cheek.....LOL. I have decided to give a couple of the ES series drives a try and see if I have better luck.....(we'll see where they were made...LOL again). EDIT.... Done deal, they are on the way, should have them Thursday so I can try to rebuild the rig on Friday...... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
The Fiend Send message Joined: 23 Sep 01 Posts: 6 Credit: 3,051,288 RAC: 0 |
Could your drives be from a dodgy batch? Probably only Seagate themselves would be able to answer that. Hard drive capacities are getting bigger and bigger, yet the physical size stays the same. So the tolerances are getting smaller and smaller. I used to work with DIGITAL PDP11/23s and 11/34s with RL02 removable discs.... 10MB on a 14" platter. A head crash on one of them often left quite a mess. Today you can buy a 1TB 3.5".... It just goes to show how far disk drive technology has advanced in 30 years. I even used to work with a datalogger system which was used for logging Neutron radiation which used paper tape to load the program and used ferrite core memory...... and this was still operating in the late 80s. |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29815 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Well I just had my second Hitachi Deskstar fail. Be warned. Less than a year old and Hitachi is refusing to honnor the warranty. Came with a 3 year warranty but the say it was sold OEM so they don't cover the warranty. They say the system builder does. Bought it a NewEgg and they only warranty it for 30 days. So since I built my own system, I guess that means I am responsible for the warranty. Word of caution and lesson learned. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well I just had my second Hitachi Deskstar fail. Be warned. Less than a year old and Hitachi is refusing to honnor the warranty. Came with a 3 year warranty but the say it was sold OEM so they don't cover the warranty. They say the system builder does. Bought it a NewEgg and they only warranty it for 30 days. So since I built my own system, I guess that means I am responsible for the warranty. Word of caution and lesson learned. Ouch.... I wonder if that means that the warranty on the new Seagates I just ordered from Newegg is gonna be 1 year instead of 5.........? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
The Fiend wrote: You might notice from my profile I have my location set to Thailand, but I am not Thai and I don't live there, but I do spend a couple of months there a year on holiday. [OT] Ever make it down to Pattaya ? I used to keep a house and spend a few months a year there on Holiday, nearly 20 years ago. Cheap entertainment was showing up at "Marine Bar" to watch Muay Thai (Thai kick boxing). Wondering if the "Green Hut Beer Bar" is still open... a few New Year's party there and the food brought in by the 'hostesses' was always delicious. [/OT] I agree with Mark that his stereotyping comment was made in jest, as was my follow up about 'Ya Baa'. Long live King Rama IX... |
Jack in Ohio Send message Joined: 12 Nov 02 Posts: 14 Credit: 270,014 RAC: 0 |
Carlos, You may be able to get this resolved by contacting your States Atty. General. If the warranty that is offered by Hitachi is not being honored by the company then they are falsly advertising a warranty and legal action not costing you a penny will be taken by the state. It's worth a shot, how can you warranty a hard drive you only installed? Good luck , Jack |
_heinz Send message Joined: 25 Feb 05 Posts: 744 Credit: 5,539,270 RAC: 0 |
Hi Kittyman, I have 3 Seagate ST31000340NS (5QJ0DD4D), ST31000340NS (5QJ0AGMN), ST31000340NS (5QJ0DBV6) in the V8-Xeon Server, all with 5 years warranty. This NS is excellent, have a look at the seagate site. heinz |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Well I just had my second Hitachi Deskstar fail. They're called "Deathstar" drives for a reason, unfortunately. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65736 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Well I just had my second Hitachi Deskstar fail. Which came from IBM calling them Deskstars of course, As to why they were called Deskstars in the first place I don't know. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well....I got the new Seagate ES series drives today....made in Thailand...LOL. They look very much like the ones that failed...let's hope they have more of what it takes inside. Kinda burnt out after this week's work....I'll see if a couple of shots of whiskey will let me pony up the ambition to fire them up tonight...otherwise tomorrow. Wish me luck on Brick 4 and Brick 5.... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
Good Luck with your new Seagates! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Good Luck with your new Seagates! Thanks Paul....I hope that my past faith in Seagate is reaffirmed.... And I still have to call them about bricks 1, 2, and 3.... But I think I shall wait until next week when hopefully my daily driver is running again on the new bricks and I have calmed a bit. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Which came from IBM calling them Deskstars of course, As to why they were called Deskstars in the first place I don't know. Probably something some marketing weasel came up with. The laptop drives were called "Travelstars" and the server-class drives "Ultrastars." More at Wikipedia |
Leaps-from-Shadows Send message Joined: 11 Aug 08 Posts: 323 Credit: 259,220 RAC: 0 |
Well....I got the new Seagate ES series drives today.... You won't need luck - they come with nine lives built in, just like your kitties do. Cruiser Gateway GT5692 L-f-S Edition -Phenom X4 9650 CPU -4GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM -500GB SATA HD -Vista x64 SP1 -BOINC 6.2.19 32-bit client -SSE3 optimized 32-bit apps |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well....I got the new Seagate ES series drives today.... I hope you are right on that one.......... Meanwhile, back at the farm........I got another rig down......... Think it's the vid card...........time for another trip to Walmart..... I seem to have luck like the Seti servers......they just luv to fail on the weekends........... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I seem to have luck like the Seti servers......they just luv to fail on the weekends........... I don't know anything about your local environment, or about the US electricity supply industry, but .... you've worked on electrical distribution, so this story may ring a bell. I once did some contract work on a site which operated 7 days a week, but was situated in a small industrial park where most of the tenants only worked 5 day weeks. I noticed that we were getting a lot of alerts from the UPS (APCC) monitoring software. So I looked at the electrical supply voltage in more detail, and found that it was set close to nominal for business working hours, but rose significantly higher in the small hours of the morning and at weekends. We had a lot of hard disk failures on that site too, but they were el cheapo 40GB Maxtors in Dell small form factor cases with limited cooling (Optiplex GX50/60). I don't think the example translates exactly to the Frozen Penny! |
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