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Message 818309 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 2:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 818295.  
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I hope this is good enough

Posted seven years later and not a single comment on the article... hmm... ;)

(And that's just my initial thoughts. But I'll take your word that the vid is authentic, 'cause I know that's your job.)
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Message 818320 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 2:50:40 UTC - in response to Message 818309.  

I hope this is good enough

Posted seven years later and not a single comment on the article... hmm... ;)

(And that's just my initial thoughts. But I'll take your word that the vid is authentic, 'cause I know that's your job.)

What Job? I just Googled It and the rest is in black and white so to speak.
I'm reading It on pg4.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/24/60minutes/main3749494_page4.shtml
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Message 818402 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 6:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 818295.  

Saddam let It be known before He died that He had spread the rumor

Got a video tape? ;)

How's this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/24/60minutes/main3749494.shtml

I hope this is good enough, Bush didn't lie, Just a bunch of know It alls who weren't in the loop.



please, bush and his ministration lied to you and the rest of the world
about weapons of mass destructions.invading iraq was war were you did had any rights, that is and stay as truth
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Message 818426 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 10:47:05 UTC

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ


they knew that there was not such things, they could have checked by documents
that what we sell them when they were our friends and saddam hussein was our friend
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Message 818460 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 13:41:44 UTC - in response to Message 818044.  

No one is self reliant. We all need each other to survive.
That's the way it's been since the dawn of man and no matter how hard some would argue to the contrary, it remains a universal truth.

That doesn't give you or anyone else the right to use gov't force to make others pay for your silly programs.

Because if that's OK, they can use gov't force to make you pay for their silly programs. Oh, right, they are. War in Iraq, corporate welfare, the massive bailout, weapons, the CIA, lots o' things.

Happy paying for those? You should be thrilled. It's the system you support, working exactly as you want it to.


I take it as you won't vote then?!



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Message 818461 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 13:43:49 UTC

If Obama really was born in Kenya it will open the way for Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for presidency...


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Message 818472 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 14:15:13 UTC - in response to Message 818076.  

Reagan never balanced the Federal budget. In fact, the budget deficits ballooned during his Presidency as a result of a defense buildup and reduced revenues.

Clinton did end his final year with a significant budget surplus. For the first time, the "National Debt Clock" in New York actually stopped. Unfortunately, instead of restructuring and paying down the US debt, George W. and the Republican-controlled Congress approved tax cuts just weeks before the attacks of 9/11/2001 and the subsequent economic downturn.

The deficits - and the national debt - have been going up ever since.


Of course, Clinton never balanced the Federal budget either. A) Because much of the "balance" came in what is usually called "out years," the time after the particular president leaves office, some of which would only be happening now. B) Since the budget is redone every year, a myriad of things change, and do every year. C) The "savings" were based on overly rosy economic forecasts which over-estimated Federal tax revenue. D) The so-called accounting rules that the Federal gov't uses would get you thrown into prison for the rest of your life if you used them. It's called criminal fraud. E) This doesn't even begin to take into account "off-budget" items that require Federal money, but that the gov't has decided do not need to appear on the budget anymore.


While I certainly agree that the accounting practices of the Federal Government are voodoo, those that they do use indicate that your statement A) is not completely accurate.

The actual reported on-budget balance of receipts and expenditures for Fiscal Year 1999 was a surplus of $1.9 Billion. In FY 2000, the surplus was $86.4 Billion. In 2001, the balance had slipped to a deficit of $32.4 Billion. By FY 2004, the reported on-budget deficit had ballooned to nearly $568 Billion.

The full summary may be found at this link. When you consider your point E) - which I also don't dispute - it's damn depressing.


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Message 818514 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:51:49 UTC - in response to Message 818461.  

If Obama really was born in Kenya it will open the way for Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for presidency...


I can almost guarantee you that if Obama was born in Kenya, it would be 100% irrefutable, or at the least when he was sworn in they'd have to look at his birth records and he would be denied office once it was found out.
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Message 818830 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 15:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 818472.  

While I certainly agree that the accounting practices of the Federal Government are voodoo, those that they do use indicate that your statement A) is not completely accurate.

The actual reported on-budget balance of receipts and expenditures for Fiscal Year 1999 was a surplus of $1.9 Billion. In FY 2000, the surplus was $86.4 Billion. In 2001, the balance had slipped to a deficit of $32.4 Billion. By FY 2004, the reported on-budget deficit had ballooned to nearly $568 Billion.

The full summary may be found at this link. When you consider your point E) - which I also don't dispute - it's damn depressing.

You're right, I was working for memory, and those guys certainly aren't strangers to the "out year," by any sense of the word. But as you said, voodoo is voodoo, and the whole thing is BS.

Under GAAP or any other accepted accounting practices that don't involve voodoo, all those numbers are simply criminal fraud.
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Message 818843 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:13:49 UTC - in response to Message 818830.  

Government can go into debt, We can't.

As to Obama, I think the answer is quite clear He's as American and Christian as I am, Sure He has a Muslim name, Big deal, I have a name that's of French origin, Does that alone make Me French? No It doesn't.
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Message 819419 - Posted: 16 Oct 2008, 21:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 817968.  

Be a slave and submit to force and danger or move to an island? Hmmmmmm.....

You sound like some schoolyard bully of the age of...........
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Message 819544 - Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 3:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 819419.  
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Be a slave and submit to force and danger or move to an island? Hmmmmmm.....

You sound like some schoolyard bully of the age of...........

I'm just curious on this, But who are You talking to?
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Message 819579 - Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 6:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 817960.  

You can't do that without disturbing the peace though can you?

You'll always demand that you will find 'peace' and 'harmony' via the use of force and aggression.

You'll never be allowed by your own premises to have any sort of society where free men and women deal with each other by the consent of their own minds.

You may not be religious (I am not) but you share all of their mystical premises. You believe man somehow doesn't belong to himself, that his / her body, is not his own. He belongs to your god or government.




if you want to be truly free, then you have to move some remote island and have
nothing to do with any country, and will live by what you cultivate, hunt, fish,
do your own clothes, not buy or trade anything, but do everything you need by yourself. otherwise you are part of some society and can´t claim to be free



this, i think
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Message 824060 - Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 0:08:38 UTC

Miss Tanzania shows off----->Mrs.Miriam Odemba
because she belongs to a tribe whose ancestors are relatives to Obama.


[News-Text]La belleza que representa a Tanzania en el certamen de belleza Miss Tierra 2008, Miriam Odemba, aseguró que se siente orgullosa de pertenecer a la tribu de la que proceden los antepasados del candidato demócrata a la presidencia de Estados Unidos, Barack Obama, informa hoy la prensa local.
Odemba, que ya se encuentra en Filipinas para participar en el concurso, dijo que, al igual que Obama, su padre tiene familia keniana de la tribu Mjaluo, la misma a la que pertenecen los antepasados del político estadounidense. [/News-text]
Translation:
The beauty who represents Tanzania at the Miss Earth 2008 contest, said she feels herself proud of belonging to the tribe where the democratic candidate to the U.S.Presidency, Barak Obama, comes from.
Odemba, who already is in the Philipines for participating in the contest, said that, as Obama has, her father has relatives from Kenya of the Mjaluo tribe, the same one that belongs the american politician to.

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Message 825008 - Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 21:26:52 UTC

Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango
If this is how he takes care of his own family I can't wait to see how he takes care of middle class America.
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Message 825026 - Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 22:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 824075.  
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Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit


"The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States."

Article Two of the United States Constitution

Section 1

..."Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States..."

Section 2

"The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment..."



"...He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments..."

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"He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States"
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Message 825045 - Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 22:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 825008.  

If this is how he takes care of his own family I can't wait to see how he takes care of middle class America.

Ironic that it's the republicans who keep screaming "IT'S MY MONEY!!!"... ;)
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Message 825046 - Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 22:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 824075.  

Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit

If Obama is elected and then proved ineligible you can say hello to President Biden.
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Message 825164 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 4:43:39 UTC

or if McCain is elected and gets heartattack, say hello to president Palin
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