Are you all buying into this OMG did Obama really say that hype? Or do you think it is a big deal for real. What is your take on McCain using the same type of phrase earlier and now attcking Obama for using it? What is your opinion on the phrase in general?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Thanks,
Chris.

Are you all buying into this OMG did Obama really say that hype? Or do you think it is a big deal for real. What is your take on McCain using the same type of phrase earlier and now attcking Obama for using it? What is your opinion on the phrase in general?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Thanks,
Chris.

Well one of the first things you have to learn is how to make your links clickable. Lots of people are inherently lazy and don't bother copying and pasting. It's not terribly difficult.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Just some basic, simple BBCode.

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Yes, he said it. However, the McCain camp is intentionally misinterpreting it (and McCain has used it himself in the past). It means that the idea or thing being discussed is ugly, and no amount of window dressing will change that. It is not calling any person a pig.

I am not a fan of Obama-but everyone involved in this is either ignorant, dishonest or thinks that the public is stupid and unsophisticated.

Sad to see the conservative talk hosts also showing that they are not fair and unbiased.

Obama clearly was referring to McCain's policies which he implied were the same old nonsense --the "lipstick on a pig" was referring to these policies being trotted out and renamed as change. The idea of the common expression was that you can dress up the old stuff but it is the same old stuff--lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a great beauty.

Most of the talk show folks are quite intelligent but in this instance they are also quite disingenuous.

Bill

...everyone involved in this is either ignorant, dishonest or thinks that the public is stupid and unsophisticated.

I am not a fan of Obama-but everyone involved in this is either ignorant, dishonest or thinks that the public is stupid and unsophisticated.

Sad to see the conservative talk hosts also showing that they are not fair and unbiased.

Obama clearly was referring to McCain's policies which he implied were the same old nonsense --the "lipstick on a pig" was referring to these policies being trotted out and renamed as change. The idea of the common expression was that you can dress up the old stuff but it is the same old stuff--lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a great beauty.

Most of the talk show folks are quite intelligent but in this instance they are also quite disingenuous.

Bill

The reporters do as they're told now-a-days,

It is telling of those who are really in power as to what they think the general population is capable of reasoning out. I hope they are wrong about society. But who knows. We did fall for the fake Osama tape just before the election that got bush back in for a second term.


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I don't know, they showed the clips on the news here, first the one by Palin mentioning lipstick and then the other by Obama, where he made that comment about lipstick on a pig. Maybe it was an intentional dig to Palin, maybe not. As so many other times people see digs where they are not, because they project themselves and their own thoughts on others, in this case Obama. Anyway, it was an unlucky expression because of the lipstick comment by Palin, which they, Obama and his staff, must have known of, so maybe, if he didn't mean to make a dig at her, he should have used an another expression.

Using that expression makes him an easy target of accusations of targeting her, and can create, I'm sure it already has created, a lot of resentment against him.

Good points. I just don't see it in a negative way. But that is me and everyone sees everything in different ways. I can understand that. If everyone else can I think that is the hope we all want.

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Good points. I just don't see it in a negative way. But that is me and everyone sees everything in different ways. I can understand that. If everyone else can I think that is the hope we all want.

No, you can understand it in any ways you want, and some people think even a "Good morning" is a dig to them, we can't change that. That's the mindset some people just have. I thought about that when I saw those clips on tv.

But again, Obama and his staff, specially his spindoctors, should be aware of this kind of mindset, so he should have used an another expression, in case he didn't mean it as a dig to her.

As it looks like, to some, he took a swing at her, and a lot of female voters will take this the wrong way, he might very well have lost their votes. But again, we will see on the election day how much his comment, and also Palin's family, will mean to the distribution of the votes.

That's what I can't predict about, because I don't have the mindset of the typical American voter, specially the many voters from the Bible Belt.

I don't have the mindset of the typical American voter, specially the many voters from the Bible Belt.

some people think even a "Good morning" is a dig to them, we can't change that.

some people think even a "Good morning" is a dig to them, we can't change that.

Some people just don't seem to understand the definition of the word harassment... ;)

(Corporate america defines it as: ANY UNWELCOME ATTENTION.)

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Good points. I just don't see it in a negative way. But that is me and everyone sees everything in different ways. I can understand that. If everyone else can I think that is the hope we all want.

No, you can understand it in any ways you want, and some people think even a "Good morning" is a dig to them, we can't change that. That's the mindset some people just have. I thought about that when I saw those clips on tv.

But again, Obama and his staff, specially his spindoctors, should be aware of this kind of mindset, so he should have used an another expression, in case he didn't mean it as a dig to her.

As it looks like, to some, he took a swing at her, and a lot of female voters will take this the wrong way, he might very well have lost their votes. But again, we will see on the election day how much his comment, and also Palin's family, will mean to the distribution of the votes.

That's what I can't predict about, because I don't have the mindset of the typical American voter, specially the many voters from the Bible Belt.

Being that some people can take "Good morning" as a dig, there's no point in even trying to walk on egg shells around these people, and its better to confront the accusations instead, showing the accusers of their ridiculousness in the allegations. Since its a free country, Obama is free to use any expression he chooses to, as well as McCain. I don't think Obama should have chosen a different phrase just to be afraid of what people will twist it into.