As I recall, a few years ago I was able to see the FQDN of my machines when I wasn't logged in. That prompted me to turn it all off. Things must have changed. I have disabled the hide option.

I checked one of the machines I know was having an issue and it appears to be going fine now. I guess perhaps I didn't give it enough time after the last reinstall before I deemed it NWMT.

The majority of the machines I have SETI on are 24/7/365 machines. Powering them off is not an option (which makes the upgrade to 6 a big deal). I suppose I could have just uninstalled BOINC at the point of losing my patience but I stay pretty busy.

It's a rather large farm and I try to RDP into each one on a daily basis to catch these things, but some of them are not readily acessible to me all the time.

Even with the downtime, and lately there has been PLENTY of it (such as now), SETI and BOINC in general have not been quite as bad as UD used to be.

My RAC is falling like a rock. Was at ~135,000 but now down to 118,000 and falling. Tisk

Rob

That's the way I see it.......
What's good for the goose, etc.

I have noticed that although my RAC has been dropping, the Frozen Penny's position in the top 20 hasn't changed much....still at #13 spot....so everyone else seems to be afflicted in the same manner.

So nothing has really changed.

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"With cats." kittyman

My RAC has dropped by almost 10,000 in the last few days. Going by what Eric said, looks like I might actually lose about 20,000 or so before all the bleeding is done.

The good news is, so is everyone else's RAC. So if everyone experiences the same %RAC drop, we'll all be in the same position we are in now, just slightly lower scores.

Pretty sad watching my dual quads go from 9,300 to ~8,000 though.

$.02

Rob

Hmm, i thought i read that machines were being chosen to receive the Astropulse packages based ont their reliability in connectivity and processing speeds. Based on that, is it incorrect to assume that someone who does not cruch full time and connects on an irregular basis would only receive the classic Seti@home units, and thus be excluded from the RAC drop???

a good example would be 50 business machines at a software company that are set to run only when idle.

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As I recall, a few years ago I was able to see the FQDN of my machines when I wasn't logged in. That prompted me to turn it all off. Things must have changed. I have disabled the hide option.

I checked one of the machines I know was having an issue and it appears to be going fine now. I guess perhaps I didn't give it enough time after the last reinstall before I deemed it NWMT.

The majority of the machines I have SETI on are 24/7/365 machines. Powering them off is not an option (which makes the upgrade to 6 a big deal). I suppose I could have just uninstalled BOINC at the point of losing my patience but I stay pretty busy.

It's a rather large farm and I try to RDP into each one on a daily basis to catch these things, but some of them are not readily acessible to me all the time.

Even with the downtime, and lately there has been PLENTY of it (such as now), SETI and BOINC in general have not been quite as bad as UD used to be.

My RAC is falling like a rock. Was at ~135,000 but now down to 118,000 and falling. Tisk

Rob

Glad you decided to stay, Rob.

As for the FQDN thing, I've been with BOINC since nearly the beginning, and the website has never shown the FQDN of any machine since day 1. Perhaps when you thought you logged out there were some cached pages that still showed the FQDN. I would have almost bet that if you checked your account from a different machine you wouldn't have seen the FQDN at all.


At any rate, I'm glad that your machine problems seem to have resolved themselves. If you ever need any help figuring out a problem, the people here are very knowledgeable and informative. Don't hesistate to ask and I'm sure someone will speak up eventually.

Here is an example using one of Eric computers Host ID 15939
or
My computers Computers for Pappa

I wonder if Eric is a set and forget type. The host listed is only allowed 1 wu per day. Something seems to be wrong with your too Pappa. Your not being allowed the full 100 per day.

Eric crashed out quite a lot of AP units.

All part of the testing.......

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"With cats." kittyman

Here is an example using one of Eric computers Host ID 15939
or
My computers Computers for Pappa

I wonder if Eric is a set and forget type. The host listed is only allowed 1 wu per day. Something seems to be wrong with your too Pappa. Your not being allowed the full 100 per day.

Eric crashed out quite a lot of AP units.

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Hm, when I click on the link below that says the computers are for Pappa it says the computers belong to Evert Meulie... and none are active in the last 30 days. But if I click on Pappa's name, I do see his account, and the user id seems to match the user id in the other link... ???

-Dave

[edit] Ah - I see, the user id in the link is for the BETA userid...! Not Seti main.

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Here is an example using one of Eric computers Host ID 15939
or
My computers Computers for Pappa

I wonder if Eric is a set and forget type. The host listed is only allowed 1 wu per day. Something seems to be wrong with your too Pappa. Your not being allowed the full 100 per day.

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As I recall, a few years ago I was able to see the FQDN of my machines when I wasn't logged in. That prompted me to turn it all off. Things must have changed. I have disabled the hide option.

I checked one of the machines I know was having an issue and it appears to be going fine now. I guess perhaps I didn't give it enough time after the last reinstall before I deemed it NWMT.

The majority of the machines I have SETI on are 24/7/365 machines. Powering them off is not an option (which makes the upgrade to 6 a big deal). I suppose I could have just uninstalled BOINC at the point of losing my patience but I stay pretty busy.

It's a rather large farm and I try to RDP into each one on a daily basis to catch these things, but some of them are not readily acessible to me all the time.

Even with the downtime, and lately there has been PLENTY of it (such as now), SETI and BOINC in general have not been quite as bad as UD used to be.

My RAC is falling like a rock. Was at ~135,000 but now down to 118,000 and falling. Tisk

Rob

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Rob

A bit of explanation.

One of the reasons that people forget or may have forgotten for the 100 Wu's/day quota was when a couple of machines that had problems started trashing (the highest as I recall was over a 1000+ WU's/day) many workunits that was causing even more stress on the servers and the users. So the quotas were turned on and fixed to insure that a single computer could not ruin a lot of peoples day.

What some people do not realize is there could be a valid reason for why the machine does not want to play. Hardware (bad ram, overclocking, overheating, hard drive dying, dying power supply) software (corrupt/incomplete files). Many were running in a set it and forget it mode.

So everytime this happens we could ask:
What is the Host ID
Which Workunit
What CPU
What Motherboard
How much RAM
How old is the system
Which version of the BOINC Core Client are you using
When was the last time you ran chkdsk /f?
and other questions depending on your answers.

A part of those boring questions can be bypassed, if the user allows their computers to be viewed. Then the basic information is available. The users that try to help can look at the errors in the workunit which sometimes give an instant answer or even identify a bug.
When a User allows their computers to be seen, it does not give away any privacy information. Only you the owner gets all the details.

Yes there are many here that wear many hats notably Volunteer Tester that have seem more grief than you want to know. Or they also participate in BOINC Alpha which is even more bleeding edge BOINC Core Client issues. Or even get help from other users that are working with the group that Optimizes the Seti Applications. Yet still overclockers that have to insure everything is right (or they end with machines that get 1 WU/day)

Everyone here really does care in helping provide solutions.

I have a couple older machines that receive an error stating that they have exceeded their quota of 1 WU per day. They've said it for months. Since they are low-end crunchers it hasn't been too big of a concern. They haven't been able to download any work so I'm not sure how it gets out of the rut.

Uninstalling, reinstalling, resetting the project all don't help. So I gave up on them.

Rob

Edit:
It does not give the computer name, netbois name or UNC name
Here is an example using one of Eric computers Host ID 15939
or
My computers Computers for Pappa

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If they keep saying that, then they're downloading one WU per day, trashing it, and generally messing up the project, its download bandwidth, your own bandwidth, and your wingmates.

Only you can solve this (your computers are hidden, so we can't help you diagnose it).

If they're not working, switch them off to save electricity, or at least uninstall BOINC one last time to stop the wastage.

Richard, although I didn't need it, thanks for the reminder as to why I don't post on these boards that often.

Rob

Hi Rob,

Richard was simply trying to be helpful. If your systems are reduced to a 1 WU/day quota, then that indicates something wrong with the results you are sending back from those machines. Normally, we'd just go right into your systems and check the results to help you, but you have your systems hidden so we cannot find what the cause of the problems are.

If you are willing, we can help find the problem and try to get your systems back up to the max of 100/day.

-OzzFan

Exactly. When you made one of your earlier posts, you said:

As for hiding the machines, yes but its out of necessity. Most of them are on a domain and S@H reports not only the machine name, but the fully qualified name on the domain. Sometimes this contains partial user names and I don't want any of that available to the public.

I beg to differ. I did exactly the same as you (hiding my computers) when I first joined BOINC, for much the same reasons. Then people who'd been here much longer than I had explained that it wasn't really necessary, and I unhid them.

Click on my name next to this post, and click on 'View' to see my computers. Three of the four servers on my account are domain controllers: can you tell which ones, and what domain they're on? BOINC shows you that information for your own computers only, not other peoples'.

We can also help you to get your (very impressive) signature graphic to show properly:

If they keep saying that, then they're downloading one WU per day, trashing it, and generally messing up the project, its download bandwidth, your own bandwidth, and your wingmates.

Only you can solve this (your computers are hidden, so we can't help you diagnose it).

If they're not working, switch them off to save electricity, or at least uninstall BOINC one last time to stop the wastage.

Richard, although I didn't need it, thanks for the reminder as to why I don't post on these boards that often.

Rob

Hi Rob,

Richard was simply trying to be helpful. If your systems are reduced to a 1 WU/day quota, then that indicates something wrong with the results you are sending back from those machines. Normally, we'd just go right into your systems and check the results to help you, but you have your systems hidden so we cannot find what the cause of the problems are.

If you are willing, we can help find the problem and try to get your systems back up to the max of 100/day.

-OzzFan

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If they keep saying that, then they're downloading one WU per day, trashing it, and generally messing up the project, its download bandwidth, your own bandwidth, and your wingmates.

Only you can solve this (your computers are hidden, so we can't help you diagnose it).

If they're not working, switch them off to save electricity, or at least uninstall BOINC one last time to stop the wastage.

Richard, although I didn't need it, thanks for the reminder as to why I don't post on these boards that often.

Rob

OK, I'll leave it. But you'll find that there are people here who can help sort out problems, if you ever decide you want to ask them.

If they keep saying that, then they're downloading one WU per day, trashing it, and generally messing up the project, its download bandwidth, your own bandwidth, and your wingmates.

Only you can solve this (your computers are hidden, so we can't help you diagnose it).

If they're not working, switch them off to save electricity, or at least uninstall BOINC one last time to stop the wastage.

Richard, although I didn't need it, thanks for the reminder as to why I don't post on these boards that often.

Rob

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I have a couple older machines that receive an error stating that they have exceeded their quota of 1 WU per day. They've said it for months. Since they are low-end crunchers it hasn't been too big of a concern. They haven't been able to download any work so I'm not sure how it gets out of the rut.

Uninstalling, reinstalling, resetting the project all don't help. So I gave up on them.

Rob

If they keep saying that, then they're downloading one WU per day, trashing it, and generally messing up the project, its download bandwidth, your own bandwidth, and your wingmates.

Only you can solve this (your computers are hidden, so we can't help you diagnose it).

If they're not working, switch them off to save electricity, or at least uninstall BOINC one last time to stop the wastage.

My RAC has dropped by almost 10,000 in the last few days. Going by what Eric said, looks like I might actually lose about 20,000 or so before all the bleeding is done.

The good news is, so is everyone else's RAC. So if everyone experiences the same %RAC drop, we'll all be in the same position we are in now, just slightly lower scores.

Pretty sad watching my dual quads go from 9,300 to ~8,000 though.

$.02

Rob

Just consider yourself lucky, one host out off work, because it produced >400 error's :( I had revert it back to 5.10.45 from 6.2.12 and 14.
Second host also ran out off work due to error's and installed a LINUX(Ubuntu8.04) distro and started over again.
RAC dropped a few thousend in about 2 weeks, 6000 to be precise :( .
More concerned about the error's then my RAC, though.
Happy crunching, anyway ;)

I have a couple older machines that receive an error stating that they have exceeded their quota of 1 WU per day. They've said it for months. Since they are low-end crunchers it hasn't been too big of a concern. They haven't been able to download any work so I'm not sure how it gets out of the rut.

Uninstalling, reinstalling, resetting the project all don't help. So I gave up on them.

Rob

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My RAC has dropped by almost 10,000 in the last few days. Going by what Eric said, looks like I might actually lose about 20,000 or so before all the bleeding is done.

The good news is, so is everyone else's RAC. So if everyone experiences the same %RAC drop, we'll all be in the same position we are in now, just slightly lower scores.

Pretty sad watching my dual quads go from 9,300 to ~8,000 though.

$.02

Rob

Just consider yourself lucky, one host out off work, because it produced >400 error's :( I had revert it back to 5.10.45 from 6.2.12 and 14.
Second host also ran out off work due to error's and installed a LINUX(Ubuntu8.04) distro and started over again.
RAC dropped a few thousend in about 2 weeks, 6000 to be precise :( .
More concerned about the error's then my RAC, though.
Happy crunching, anyway ;)

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My RAC has dropped by almost 10,000 in the last few days. Going by what Eric said, looks like I might actually lose about 20,000 or so before all the bleeding is done.

The good news is, so is everyone else's RAC. So if everyone experiences the same %RAC drop, we'll all be in the same position we are in now, just slightly lower scores.

Pretty sad watching my dual quads go from 9,300 to ~8,000 though.

$.02

Rob

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Ouch ouch ouch.

Drat, I must have stepped on a Micronian, Ewe. ;)

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Ouch ouch ouch.

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

See this post, which references a post by Dr. Eric. Seems like everyone is going to take a hit...

And the kitties are not even doing Astrokittie yet........arrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

That's cause there's an AstroJoker hangin around. ;) Kill the Bat indeed.

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