I recently started up Seti again after many months (moved and forgot about it). I downloaded the latest client to my 2 mac's, but it doesn't receive tasks. From the threads I have read here, I am assuming it's related, but thought that I would share just in case since most comments are about uploading WU's.

Tue Aug 12 16:38:36 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:38:41 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:39:41 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:39:46 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:40:46 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:40:52 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:41:52 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:41:57 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:44:12 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:44:17 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:45:43 2008|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 43202 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Tue Aug 12 16:45:48 2008|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

I recently started up Seti again after many months (moved and forgot about it). I downloaded the latest client to my 2 mac's, but it doesn't receive tasks. From the threads I have read here, I am assuming it's related, but thought that I would share just in case since most comments are about uploading WU's.
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@Shannon
Yes, it's related. If I can suggest a few days' patience and your Macs should be crunching away again. This sort of thing happens in direct proportion to PR/advertising (emails from Berkeley, TV mentions, etc.), new stuff (in this case, AstroPulse, another way of searching for ET), and weekends. If you're keeping track, we've had items in all three categories.

Welcome back.
QS

Did any of you who are blaming AP read the -first- paragraph that started this thread? AP didn't break the system, it was a software error that appeared to only have a short-term impact, at the time of the post.

You do realize that AP is software, too, right? Of course, AP broke the system because the system wasn't tested for AP's inclusion.

Months of testing on SETI Beta notwithstanding.

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FYI unless some other staff member picks it up, there won't be any Tech News for awhile. Matt is on vacation.

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Did any of you who are blaming AP read the -first- paragraph that started this thread? AP didn't break the system, it was a software error that appeared to only have a short-term impact, at the time of the post.

You do realize that AP is software, too, right? Of course, AP broke the system because the system wasn't tested for AP's inclusion.

Months of testing on SETI Beta notwithstanding.

:) I meant the seemingly fragile production seti server system, not the AP science app. So all the more reason to turn things on slowly before going full bore.

But all this chaos does produce an interesting set of scarecrow graphs and message boards posts to ponder.

You do realize that AP is software, too, right? Of course, AP broke the system because the system wasn't tested for AP's inclusion.

From what quite a few have been suggesting about slowly turning AP on.. there is no way to "slowly" include it in the main project. It is either included, or it is not. In this particular case, inclusion didn't go so well.

And what I was talking about with everyone blaming AP.. From what I read, it seems as though the point everyone was making was the extra 10-20mbit of bandwidth consumed is what broke the system. The extra bandwidth didn't break the system. The new scheduler is to blame, which goes back to the issue of "included" or "not included."

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

See that the servers are down again. No work. Unable to join other projects because my client is SETI_Enhanced capable ONLY. So why do I see that I'm supposed to be working on an AstroPulse WU in my Task list? Which I don't have! Somebody should be checking on whether a client is capable of crunching AP WU's and not download them to that client. Now, the other person with my supposed WU is going to have to wait for the timeout on me and then wait again for somebody else to crunch that WU.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

See that the servers are down again. No work. Unable to join other projects because my client is SETI_Enhanced capable ONLY. So why do I see that I'm supposed to be working on an AstroPulse WU in my Task list? Which I don't have! Somebody should be checking on whether a client is capable of crunching AP WU's and not download them to that client. Now, the other person with my supposed WU is going to have to wait for the timeout on me and then wait again for somebody else to crunch that WU.

Keith,
Since you don't have any work, feel free to detach and re-attach from SETI. That will tell SETI to cancel any work units that it thinks may have been sent to your computer.

After re-attaching, have patience and wait for more work. It will come.

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Mark

Aug 11, 2008

The upload server has been fixed. Once the system clears the backlog of results waiting to be uploaded, validated, and assimilated,

disk space will clear up and this will allow new work to be generated.

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

See that the servers are down again. No work. Unable to join other projects because my client is SETI_Enhanced capable ONLY. So why do I see that I'm supposed to be working on an AstroPulse WU in my Task list? Which I don't have! Somebody should be checking on whether a client is capable of crunching AP WU's and not download them to that client. Now, the other person with my supposed WU is going to have to wait for the timeout on me and then wait again for somebody else to crunch that WU.

Keith,
Since you don't have any work, feel free to detach and re-attach from SETI. That will tell SETI to cancel any work units that it thinks may have been sent to your computer.

After re-attaching, have patience and wait for more work. It will come.

Keep in mind that if you have the Optimized apps installed, they will need to be reinstalled after you reattach. The detach/reattach process completely deletes the Project folder.

Did any of you who are blaming AP read the -first- paragraph that started this thread? AP didn't break the system, it was a software error that appeared to only have a short-term impact, at the time of the post.

You do realize that AP is software, too, right? Of course, AP broke the system because the system wasn't tested for AP's inclusion.

Months of testing on SETI Beta notwithstanding.

:) I meant the seemingly fragile production seti server system, not the AP science app. So all the more reason to turn things on slowly before going full bore.

But all this chaos does produce an interesting set of scarecrow graphs and message boards posts to ponder.

Do we know how many of the outstanding work units are AP and how many are Multibeam?

I don't have access to the internals at Berkeley. I don't know how much is caused by AstroPulse, and how much due to other causes.

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who is maul (splitter2) and why is always disabvled. i am new to this and having trouble getting work t fulfil processor, woring curently on ein stien,
love cute cat

See that the servers are down again. No work. Unable to join other projects because my client is SETI_Enhanced capable ONLY. So why do I see that I'm supposed to be working on an AstroPulse WU in my Task list? Which I don't have! Somebody should be checking on whether a client is capable of crunching AP WU's and not download them to that client. Now, the other person with my supposed WU is going to have to wait for the timeout on me and then wait again for somebody else to crunch that WU.

The only way it should have sent that to you is if your app_info.xml file says that you can crunch astropulse. Of course if somehow that app_info.xml file got deleted, you aren't crunching optimized any more and astropulse will be downloaded to your machine.

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who is maul (splitter2) and why is always disabvled. i am new to this and having trouble getting work t fulfil processor, woring curently on ein stien,
love cute cat

It is an astropulse splitter. It is likely off because there isn't any work for it to do in the eyes of the project administrators. I suspect it is a load balance between the multibeam work units and the astropulse work units and them wanting less astropulse work units right now.

As for work, right now the project is in the recovery room. Huge numbers of machines want work and it can make work only as fast as it can clear result space on it disk drives. Until the couple million work units out in the wild get returned, the work it can make will be limited.

I know I've gotten a few work units since the trouble hit on the weekend.

Gary

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As for work, right now the project is in the recovery room. Huge numbers of machines want work and it can make work only as fast as it can clear result space on it disk drives. Until the couple million work units out in the wild get returned, the work it can make will be limited.

I know I've gotten a few work units since the trouble hit on the weekend.

Gary

For those of us HAVING issues CONNECTING , I fail to see HOW this can be done since I am CURRENTLY waiting to connect to report 15 and to upload 33 results. I even tried to join a couple of other PROJECTS to get data to crunch and couldn't even do that...MAYBE it isn't SETI@HOME after all but something else on BERKELEY's END causing the WHOLE ISSUE.

Well Patience is ok for me - a couple of my windows boxes have work, but my Macs and unix boxes are bored....

I am sure the guys are on the case so I'll be one of the paitent waiters... :)

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As for work, right now the project is in the recovery room. Huge numbers of machines want work and it can make work only as fast as it can clear result space on it disk drives. Until the couple million work units out in the wild get returned, the work it can make will be limited.

I know I've gotten a few work units since the trouble hit on the weekend.

Gary

For those of us HAVING issues CONNECTING , I fail to see HOW this can be done since I am CURRENTLY waiting to connect to report 15 and to upload 33 results. I even tried to join a couple of other PROJECTS to get data to crunch and couldn't even do that...MAYBE it isn't SETI@HOME after all but something else on BERKELEY's END causing the WHOLE ISSUE.

Nothing on Berkeley's end should cause you not to be able to work on other projects unless your Boinc installation itself is having issues.....
Maybe you could post in NC about your problem and post what messages your Boinc manager is giving you....

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

As for work, right now the project is in the recovery room. Huge numbers of machines want work and it can make work only as fast as it can clear result space on it disk drives. Until the couple million work units out in the wild get returned, the work it can make will be limited.

I know I've gotten a few work units since the trouble hit on the weekend.

Gary

For those of us HAVING issues CONNECTING , I fail to see HOW this can be done since I am CURRENTLY waiting to connect to report 15 and to upload 33 results. I even tried to join a couple of other PROJECTS to get data to crunch and couldn't even do that...MAYBE it isn't SETI@HOME after all but something else on BERKELEY's END causing the WHOLE ISSUE.

Try this: In "Grid view" or "Advanced view", on the "projects" tab, set "No New Work", hit the "update" button, switch to the "messages", wait for the "Scheduler Request Successful" message, then switch back to "projects" tab, and hit "Allow New Tasks".

Some of those messages may be worded slightly differently, depending on client version...

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

who is maul (splitter2) and why is always disabvled. i am new to this and having trouble getting work t fulfil processor, woring curently on ein stien,
love cute cat

SETI does not always run the maximum number of splitters because generally they can keep up without running all of them.

... and I don't know, but I suspect at the moment that the splitters are "throttled" by disk space -- that they run fast when there is room, and run a lot slower as the drives get full.

As people report finished work and the work transitions, space will free up.

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Work is now definitely filtering through at last. I am keeping going now on two machines. Astropulse units running for an eternity spread the load nicely out on the remaining processors. Fingers are now firmly crossed......

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