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Message 805734 - Posted: 7 Sep 2008, 3:24:30 UTC

I just reluctantly aborted the AP job and received some MB data to crunch. The machine I'm using is a single-processor 1 gHz machine, and after watching it run for two weeks, it appears that the AP job would not have finished until sometime in January 2009, long past the deadline.
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Message 805963 - Posted: 7 Sep 2008, 20:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 805734.  

Sorry to the who created AP, but it seems that my PC isn't able to crack those things in the time. I don't f***ing want to have some more of it. Any Chance?
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Message 805997 - Posted: 7 Sep 2008, 22:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 805963.  

Sorry to the who created AP, but it seems that my PC isn't able to crack those things in the time. I don't f***ing want to have some more of it. Any Chance?

To make sure you're not getting any more Astropulse-work, change your SETI@home preferences, by de-selecting Astropulse.

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Message 806259 - Posted: 8 Sep 2008, 19:51:12 UTC

Yes.....even my old PIII will finish in time, assuming no extended power failure !

I am having a hard time adjusting to the new dynamics of AP. It used to be that I was on a steady stats climb, some times more agressive than others depending on if I could kidnap my daughter's computer.

Now, with AP, and depending upon who (near you in the stats) gets AP units, and when they get them, life is like a roller-coaster.

After a nice jump in stats (usually due to the completion of multiple regular WUs), I begin to experience a slow decline while crunching AP WUs, and run into a panic, check every computer, and worry what on earth could be wrong. Then with the completion of the AP WU, I'm back on track, until I start on the downslope again.

I'm not so nauxious from the ups and downs anymore, and I just sit back and wait.

Hell..... I love this ride.
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Message 806526 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 16:32:57 UTC

Hmm .. on of my good old PII-450 is crunchin for it´s life on a Astropulse unit.
It seems the poor thing will miss the deadline (it will finish in 6h - ~4h late)
The deadline is:9 Sep 2008 18:58:00 UTC

The workunit is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=948621871

Is there a chance to extend the deadline a few hours?


Poor old PII was crunching 24/7 on that thing for about 690h now.


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Message 806528 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 20:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 806526.  

Hmm .. on of my good old PII-450 is crunchin for it´s life on a Astropulse unit.
It seems the poor thing will miss the deadline (it will finish in 6h - ~4h late)
The deadline is:9 Sep 2008 18:58:00 UTC

The workunit is:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=948621871

Is there a chance to extend the deadline a few hours?


Poor old PII was crunching 24/7 on that thing for about 690h now.


Thanks, KyleFL

Worry not about the deadline. All that happens when the deadline expires is that the WU is sent out to another cruncher to process. Since there are no machines out there in cruncher-land that can process an AP WU in 6 hours, your result will be returned before any new Task that is generated, so your result will count (as long as it validates OK).

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Message 806568 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 23:05:37 UTC

Hello again.

Result was uploaded and credit was already granted *YAY*

Even a PII-450 with nothing more than MMX down his pants has managed to finish an astropulse workunit sucessfully.

It took him 2,504,847.00s (695,8h --> ~29days)


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Message 806599 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 1:36:18 UTC - in response to Message 806568.  
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Hello again.

Result was uploaded and credit was already granted *YAY*

Even a PII-450 with nothing more than MMX down his pants has managed to finish an astropulse workunit sucessfully.

It took him 2,504,847.00s (695,8h --> ~29days)


Regards, KyleFL


And......his work became the canonical result and went into the science database. Give him a 5 minute break, a 700 hour electron change and start him up again. That's a great box!
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Message 806620 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 4:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 806599.  
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And......his work became the canonical result and went into the science database. Give him a 5 minute break, a 700 hour electron change and start him up again. That's a great box!

I agree.I've been using a 400 MHz PII Deschutes on Linux from April 2004 to January 2008 running SETI and Einstein. Now I have an AMD Opteron 1210 at 1.8 GHz, always on Linux, running 6 BOINC projects and I have 10 SETI WUs on pending credit status. It crunched its first Astropulse WU in 115 hours and now has received its second AP with an expected time of 43 hours.
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Message 806639 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 7:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 806620.  


And......his work became the canonical result and went into the science database. Give him a 5 minute break, a 700 hour electron change and start him up again. That's a great box!

I agree.I've been using a 400 MHz PII Deschutes on Linux from April 2004 to January 2008 running SETI and Einstein. Now I have an AMD Opteron 1210 at 1.8 GHz, always on Linux, running 6 BOINC projects and I have 10 SETI WUs on pending credit status. It crunched its first Astropulse WU in 115 hours and now has received its second AP with an expected time of 43 hours.
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Boinc's estimated time may be 43 hours. If the first one took 115 hours, then the expected time is about 115 hours. Astropulse WU's are very consistent - unless they drop out early because too many pulses are found.

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Message 806643 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 8:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 806639.  


Boinc's estimated time may be 43 hours. If the first one took 115 hours, then the expected time is about 115 hours. Astropulse WU's are very consistent - unless they drop out early because too many pulses are found.

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OK. I shall report the real time. Meanwhile, my TDCF in SETI is 0.218825.
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Message 806648 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 8:17:42 UTC - in response to Message 806599.  

No break alowed :)

But I changed my prefs to Seti enhanced only. That way there is no risk in going over the deadline and the poor PII can relax a little bit ;)


Hello again.

Result was uploaded and credit was already granted *YAY*

Even a PII-450 with nothing more than MMX down his pants has managed to finish an astropulse workunit sucessfully.

It took him 2,504,847.00s (695,8h --> ~29days)


Regards, KyleFL


And......his work became the canonical result and went into the science database. Give him a 5 minute break, a 700 hour electron change and start him up again. That's a great box!


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Message 806739 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 18:23:32 UTC

Can anybody explain what's the thing with the stated deadlines of the AP units? My units deadline was two days ago, my computer finished the WU _today_, two days later. And now all the claimed credit is granted - w00t!

On the other side: My computer (@ home, does NOT crunch 24/7) worked about 1 month. I didn't expect to get ANY credit, because the original given deadline was elapsed for 1+ day (and I allowed my computer to crunch 24 hours for some days, normally that's ~6h/d). So I changed my preferences to NO AP units.

Why the short given time span?
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Message 806744 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 18:59:15 UTC

AP requires a higher Duration Correction Factor than the MB units. That's why the estimates are a bit off. Returning them a day or so late isn't that big of a deal. We have a hard enough time to have anyone to run them. And with the long completion times, even if you missed a deadline, I doubt the replacement unit would be turned in before you.
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Message 806792 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 22:47:25 UTC

I just upgraded from the AK_V8 client to 6.2.18 so I could help out on AP. My messages say:
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Starting BOINC client version 6.2.18 for windows_intelx86
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Running under account MReaves
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6]
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Memory: 2.98 GB physical, 4.82 GB virtual
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Disk: 222.86 GB total, 195.50 GB free
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Local time is UTC -7 hours
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||No coprocessors
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4256406; location: (none); project prefs: default
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 08-Jan-2008 16:11:33)
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Host location: none
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Reading preferences override file
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1527.63MB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2749.74MB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 93.13GB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 05jl08ad.2050.323146.12.8.83_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 05jl08ad.2050.323146.12.8.68_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 528

but when I open task manager and look at running processes it still says I'm running AK_V8!!??

Am I running the right stuff??
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Message 806802 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 23:03:40 UTC - in response to Message 806792.  
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I just upgraded from the AK_V8 client to 6.2.18 so I could help out on AP. My messages say:
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Starting BOINC client version 6.2.18 for windows_intelx86
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Running under account MReaves
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6]
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Memory: 2.98 GB physical, 4.82 GB virtual
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Disk: 222.86 GB total, 195.50 GB free
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Local time is UTC -7 hours
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||No coprocessors
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4256406; location: (none); project prefs: default
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 08-Jan-2008 16:11:33)
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Host location: none
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Reading preferences override file
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1527.63MB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2749.74MB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 93.13GB
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 05jl08ad.2050.323146.12.8.83_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
9/10/2008 3:43:10 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 05jl08ad.2050.323146.12.8.68_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 528

but when I open task manager and look at running processes it still says I'm running AK_V8!!??

Am I running the right stuff??

You still have an app_info.xml file,which points to the optimized app. If you want to use the standard app in order to run Astropulse WUs simply delete it or modify it according to examples given on the forums. I am running Linux and cannot show you my app_info.xml file. I am running MB WUs with an optimized app of the AK_V8 kind and Astropulse WUs with the standard app.
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Message 806806 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 23:11:49 UTC - in response to Message 806792.  

I just upgraded from the AK_V8 client to 6.2.18 so I could help out on AP......

You can't 'upgrade' AK_V8 to 6.2.18 - that would be upgrading chalk to cheese.

AK_V8 is a particular designation for a (SETI) science application.

6.2.18 is a designation for the BOINC client, which controls and manages the science applications for SETI and any other project you care to run. Within reason, any version of BOINC can be used to manage any science application - Astropulse runs just fine under BOINC v5.10.13
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Message 806809 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 23:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 806806.  

I just upgraded from the AK_V8 client to 6.2.18 so I could help out on AP......

You can't 'upgrade' AK_V8 to 6.2.18 - that would be upgrading chalk to cheese.

AK_V8 is a particular designation for a (SETI) science application.

6.2.18 is a designation for the BOINC client, which controls and manages the science applications for SETI and any other project you care to run. Within reason, any version of BOINC can be used to manage any science application - Astropulse runs just fine under BOINC v5.10.13


OK - so I can run AK_V8 for MB data and AP will still work as a seperate application....
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Message 806817 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 23:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 806809.  

OK - so I can run AK_V8 for MB data and AP will still work as a seperate application....

Yes, but you will have to manually install/configure Astropulse...

But, I recommend waiting a while before starting Astropulse... I think I see an optimized version on the near horizon.

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Message 808009 - Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 8:19:27 UTC

I crunched this APU for 6.5 days, completed successfully, but got 0 credit. What's up with that?
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