Here goes nothing.
I've just downloaded all the AP v5 files, produced an app_info and put them
all my setiathome folder, Started Boinc up successfully, set my preferences to Astropulse only and grabbed 3 AP WU's.
First one is running, expect it to finish in about 2 days.
Then We'll see if everything Valadates O.K.

Claggy

Edit: Two of the WU's are paired with computers doing totally stock,
and the third one is a reissue, that has already Been completed with AP 4.36!!

When 5.00 starts up, it checks the data in the WU to see what parts look like radar noise which needs to be removed. It creates an indices.txt file in the slot directory to save that information. Some WUs have no noise to be removed, indices.txt is zero bytes in size, and the 5.00 processing will be identical to 4.36 so should validate. Some WUs may only have a few spots where 5.00 will replace the original data with random numbers, but it replaces nearly a third of a second worth of data for each one. The more that's replaced, the less likely a 5.00 result will match a 4.36 result.

Your task for WU 351882234 is in effect the second one since there was a download problem and a missed deadline. It's definitely worth doing, either your result will match and the WU will be complete or it won't match and another host running 5.00 will be called in. In either case you should get credit, but Eric may need to run a script to grant credit for the 4.36 result.

Cases where 5.00 is trying to resolve an inconclusive comparison of two 4.36 results are also worth doing, there's no way to go back and supply a third 4.3x result. More work for Eric's script.

                                                                 Joe

Here goes nothing.
I've just downloaded all the AP v5 files, produced an app_info and put them
all my setiathome folder, Started Boinc up successfully, set my preferences to Astropulse only and grabbed 3 AP WU's.
First one is running, expect it to finish in about 2 days.
Then We'll see if everything Valadates O.K.

Claggy

Edit: Two of the WU's are paired with computers doing totally stock,
and the third one is a reissue, that has already Been completed with AP 4.36!!

When 5.00 starts up, it checks the data in the WU to see what parts look like radar noise which needs to be removed. It creates an indices.txt file in the slot directory to save that information. Some WUs have no noise to be removed, indices.txt is zero bytes in size, and the 5.00 processing will be identical to 4.36 so should validate. Some WUs may only have a few spots where 5.00 will replace the original data with random numbers, but it replaces nearly a third of a second worth of data for each one. The more that's replaced, the less likely a 5.00 result will match a 4.36 result.

Your task for WU 351882234 is in effect the second one since there was a download problem and a missed deadline. It's definitely worth doing, either your result will match and the WU will be complete or it won't match and another host running 5.00 will be called in. In either case you should get credit, but Eric may need to run a script to grant credit for the 4.36 result.

Cases where 5.00 is trying to resolve an inconclusive comparison of two 4.36 results are also worth doing, there's no way to go back and supply a third 4.3x result. More work for Eric's script.

                                                                 Joe

That WU has completed and Validated O.K too, so there is hope for other reissues.
I'm now going to move over to AP v5 optimised.

Claggy

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I've been crunching my first AP wu since November 19. I thought it might complete in time, but today I look and see that suddenly the "to completion" more than doubled to over 760 hours, and it says I've only got .85% PROGRESS.

Despite the things I've read here, I am going to abort the thing unless someone can give me a reason why I should not do so. The deadline is Dec 17.

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I've been crunching my first AP wu since November 19. I thought it might complete in time, but today I look and see that suddenly the "to completion" more than doubled to over 760 hours, and it says I've only got .85% PROGRESS.

Despite the things I've read here, I am going to abort the thing unless someone can give me a reason why I should not do so. The deadline is Dec 17.

Depends If your processor is a PII or a PIII, at the moment it's going to take about 31 days to complete, well past deadline,
I have a PIII 800HMz clocked at 896MHz, Since it has SSE, i have given it the optimised AP, and it has completed 3 WU's in about 8½ days (204hours) each, and the new V5 AP app is faster,
Yours could complete it in, say 310 hours (13 days), just at deadline, and you could have a couple of days before someone else completes it,
But if it's a PII, forget it, no SSE, and there's no optimised MMX V5 AP app, In that case i suggest you set your SETI@home preferences to 'Run only the selected applications' Astropulse to no,
and 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' to no as well, Leaving 'SETI@home Enhanced' to yes, then abort it,
If you want to run optimised, post a new thread in the 'Number Crunching' Area, and someone will give you pointers.

Claggy

< my machine - Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G MB / Intel Pentium 4 2.40GHz / 3.25 GB RAM - presently crunchin' SETI@home, Einstein & Intelligence Realm

< no optimization on any of these Projects >

i crunched [i believe] - three AstroPulse - each @ + 100hrs - maybe - 120

Q. is that good ? and where does one find the Optimised AP @ ? [for mi box]

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Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 1 (max 1)
Number of threads 1 (max 1)
Name Intel Pentium 4
Codename Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Package Socket 478 mPGA (platform ID = 2h)
CPUID F.4.1
Extended CPUID F.4
Core Stepping E0
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 2411.5 MHz (18.0 x 134.0 MHz)
Rated Bus speed 535.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
L1 Data cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Trace cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative
L2 cache 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control no

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

< my machine - Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G MB / Intel Pentium 4 2.40GHz / 3.25 GB RAM - presently crunchin' SETI@home, Einstein & Intelligence Realm

< no optimization on any of these Projects >

i crunched [i believe] - three AstroPulse - each @ + 100hrs - maybe - 120

Q. is that good ? and where does one find the Optimised AP @ ? [for mi box]

snip

You could halve the time spent on AstroPulse/Multibeam.

See New Optimized Apps Links -- READ ONLY THREAD
Again, post any questions in a new thread in Number Crunching.

Claggy

< my machine - Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G MB / Intel Pentium 4 2.40GHz / 3.25 GB RAM - presently crunchin' SETI@home, Einstein & Intelligence Realm

< no optimization on any of these Projects >

i crunched [i believe] - three AstroPulse - each @ + 100hrs - maybe - 120

Q. is that good ? and where does one find the Optimised AP @ ? [for mi box]

snip

You could halve the time spent on AstroPulse/Multibeam.

See New Optimized Apps Links -- READ ONLY THREAD
Again, post any questions in a new thread in Number Crunching.

Claggy

. . . Thank You Claggy - Much Appreciated

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

Query from Dr. C.E.T.I. about optimized apps

You've got a PM!

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Cruiser
Gateway GT5692 L-f-S Edition
-Phenom X4 9650 CPU
-4GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM
-500GB SATA HD
-Vista x64 SP1
-BOINC 6.2.19 32-bit client
-SSE3 optimized 32-bit apps

Query from Dr. C.E.T.I. about optimized apps

You've got a PM!

. . . got iT LfS - Much Appreciated - have to do that very carefully -

most likely after Dinnertime or tomorrow

Thanks again for that 'Detailed' info . . .

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

Thanks. It's really a difficult thing to accept -- wasting so much time (over 15 days) on a useless cause.

Why couldn't Astropulse be OFF by default? I can see I'm not the only one who went through this. And why, after 12 days and almost 25% completion did a NORMAL REBOOT set me all the way back to practically 0%, with the completion time almost DOUBLE, going from 357 hours to almost 800?

It's disheartening after almost 10 years of continuous computations to have this happen.

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Why not have Astropulse set to off by default? Because 90+% of SETI@home clients are unattended. They wouldn't know to turn it on to help the project, and almost no Astropulse would be crunched. If it was left to the ones who actually pay attention to the project, almost no science would get done. Contrary to what we see here on the forums, there are quite a few machines crunching happily on Astropulse as we type.

More than nine years on the project and this is the first problem you've had? Just think of all that reliability. Keep crunching and give them a chance - don't the people who have worked so hard on this deserve a little leeway from you?

This transition is just a little blip on the radar screen - it may seem major now, but another few weeks and nobody will remember it.

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Cruiser
Gateway GT5692 L-f-S Edition
-Phenom X4 9650 CPU
-4GB 667MHz DDR2 RAM
-500GB SATA HD
-Vista x64 SP1
-BOINC 6.2.19 32-bit client
-SSE3 optimized 32-bit apps

What causes the first two results in to get properly completed, yet obtain 0 credit, and then the WU goes out to two other crunchers?

Cragg

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Sorry... hit post too soon. Me and some other person are the WU's in the middle. Finished well on time:


1040541987 4591658 30 Oct 2008 22:58:40 UTC 29 Nov 2008 22:58:40 UTC Over No reply New 0.00 --- ---
1040541988 4245842 30 Oct 2008 22:58:48 UTC 2 Nov 2008 1:16:39 UTC Over Success Done 138,469.30 759.87 0.00
1073485888 4507667 29 Nov 2008 22:58:46 UTC 11 Dec 2008 2:46:18 UTC Over Success Done 380,905.10 758.30 0.00
1083937673 1437169 11 Dec 2008 2:46:41 UTC 10 Jan 2009 2:46:41 UTC In progress --- New --- --- ---

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Sorry... hit post too soon. Me and some other person are the WU's in the middle. Finished well on time:


1040541987 4591658 30 Oct 2008 22:58:40 UTC 29 Nov 2008 22:58:40 UTC Over No reply New 0.00 --- ---
1040541988 4245842 30 Oct 2008 22:58:48 UTC 2 Nov 2008 1:16:39 UTC Over Success Done 138,469.30 759.87 0.00
1073485888 4507667 29 Nov 2008 22:58:46 UTC 11 Dec 2008 2:46:18 UTC Over Success Done 380,905.10 758.30 0.00
1083937673 1437169 11 Dec 2008 2:46:41 UTC 10 Jan 2009 2:46:41 UTC In progress --- New --- --- ---

The same as the myriad other posts on this subject.

The task on the second line was issued before 18 November: version 4.36
The task on the third line was issued after 18 November: version 5.00

They don't match. The WU is really 'pending' until that fourth task comes back. Credit will be re-assessed then.

So with this task

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1069782794

happens the same thing. Is that it?

The 760 or so credits will be granted when the task issued Dec 8 will report. With "success". For me it was around 63 non-consecutive CPU hours, since I have 3 other BOINC projects.

So with this task

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1069782794

happens the same thing. Is that it?
...

Yes indeed.

The tiebreaker host is running stock, so it'll use v5. Which means it should agree with you, and you both will be credited with the lower of the two claims.

If the v4 result also validates, the highest and the lowest claims will be thrown out and the middle one granted to all three.

Edit - And welcome to Seti@home and the boards!

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Thank you, Samuel.

Hello To All ! I'm pretty new at this, but just wanted to tell you all that my little H.P. computer is very happy with the ASTROPULSE work units. I've been crunching them for a while now and ALWAYS get them done with time to spare. Of course, I don't use my computer much, and I let BOINC run 24 hours a day. Anyway, SETI can send me as many ASTROPULSE work units as they please and I will have no complaints ! I LIKE E'M !!!!!!

Do Astropulses work out even with normal enhanced 6.03 units in terms of points returned?

I get a mix of both but a 6.03 takes 2 hrs approx and an Astropulse 33 hrs approx so was not sure because sometimes I have 4 Astropulses going at once then other days mixed or just 6.03 units.

Thanks,

Night

Do Astropulses work out even with normal enhanced 6.03 units in terms of points returned?

I get a mix of both but a 6.03 takes 2 hrs approx and an Astropulse 33 hrs approx so was not sure because sometimes I have 4 Astropulses going at once then other days mixed or just 6.03 units.

Thanks,

Night

Astropulse gives ~750 credits, so 750/33 is about 22.7 credits per hour. Enhanced varies a lot with angle range, but 45.4 for 'normal' 2 hour WUs is reasonably close. Your Q9450 seems well suited to doing both.

                                                           Joe