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Message 818327 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 2:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 818211.  

The correct filename is "app_info.xml". You did not tell which optimized seti@home application you want to use, and if you want to use an optimized AstroPulse application as well. Here is a modified version of the app_info.xml that tullio just posted for x86_64 including stock AstroPulse v4.36 combined with v4.35 graphics (graphics is still missing for v4.36 x86_64):
<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux64_sse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.36_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>ap_graphics_4.35_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>436</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astropulse_4.36_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
<open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

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Message 818456 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 13:15:50 UTC
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Finished my third AP WU using app. 4.36 on a Linux box with Opteron 1210 CPU at 1.8 GHz. CPU time was 114.8 hours and credits 753.16, giving 6.56 credits/h.
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Message 818491 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 818327.  

I think that is exactly I used and then I got this Task ID, and In my BOINC message box said that if could not find the 'output file,' whatever that is.

But I'll copy and paste your code and download the main astropulse 4.36 file again, and I imagine I keep the same 4.35 graphics file, even if I don't look at it?
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Message 818510 - Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 818491.  
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Make sure the downloaded file has the correct size and don't forget to set/check execution rights for the astopulse_4.36_x86_64 and ap_graphics_4.35_x86_64 application files.
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Message 818518 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 0:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 818510.  

Oh Ok, thanks for reminding me, I should have known that that, but I abused to check. I just found the permissions as rw-, but now I have changed them to rwe.

Thanks a lot for your help!
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Message 818747 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 13:12:42 UTC

Just installed 4.35 Opp app (not running any other). Had shut down boinc before copying over.
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
15/10/2008 14:00:46||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Data directory: C:\BOINC
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ [x86 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 2]
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni 3dnow mmx
15/10/2008 14:00:46||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Professional Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Memory: 3.25 GB physical, 6.68 GB virtual
15/10/2008 14:00:46||Disk: 232.88 GB total, 178.34 GB free

Cannot see anynomous platform. Boinc & astropulse running. Is the above correct?

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Message 818758 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 13:36:37 UTC - in response to Message 818747.  

Cannot see anynomous platform. Boinc & astropulse running. Is the above correct?

Evidently not. What processes do you see running in Task Manager? Where did you put the (unpacked) optimisation files? Are they still there?
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Message 818841 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:12:27 UTC - in response to Message 818758.  
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Cannot see anynomous platform. Boinc & astropulse running. Is the above correct?

Evidently not. What processes do you see running in Task Manager? Where did you put the (unpacked) optimisation files? Are they still there?


Astropulse_4.36_Windows Intelx86 (Using 49% cpu)
C:\Boinc\Projects\seti
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Message 818853 - Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:38:57 UTC - in response to Message 818841.  

Astropulse_4.36_Windows Intelx86 (Using 49% cpu)

Stock app

C:\Boinc\Projects\seti

Should be at least ..\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Yes

Thank goodness for that.

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Most recent task 1021165657. Stock multibeam - no optimisation there either.

At least with BOINC v5.10.45 you don't have to look for a hidden BOINC Data folder. I think it's the folder. You need the one with lots of 367KB multibeam data files, and one or more 8196KB astropulse data files, with names that match the task names you see in Task Manager.

Then you need to make sure that your editor hasn't put a hidden double file extension on the control file: app_info.xml.txt

After that, if it's still not working, ask again.
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Message 819354 - Posted: 16 Oct 2008, 18:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 818853.  

Astropulse_4.36_Windows Intelx86 (Using 49% cpu)

Stock app

C:\Boinc\Projects\seti
Shortened
Should be at least ..\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Yes

Thank goodness for that.

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Most recent task 1021165657. Stock multibeam - no optimisation there either.

At least with BOINC v5.10.45 you don't have to look for a hidden BOINC Data folder. I think it's the folder. You need the one with lots of 367KB multibeam data files, and one or more 8196KB astropulse data files, with names that match the task names you see in Task Manager.

Then you need to make sure that your editor hasn't put a hidden double file extension on the control file: app_info.xml.txt

After that, if it's still not working, ask again.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't there be an app_info.xml file?

All files on show on rig even hidden ones.

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Message 819362 - Posted: 16 Oct 2008, 18:45:44 UTC - in response to Message 819354.  

Astropulse_4.36_Windows Intelx86 (Using 49% cpu)

Stock app

C:\Boinc\Projects\seti
Shortened
Should be at least ..\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Yes

Thank goodness for that.

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Most recent task 1021165657. Stock multibeam - no optimisation there either.

At least with BOINC v5.10.45 you don't have to look for a hidden BOINC Data folder. I think it's the folder. You need the one with lots of 367KB multibeam data files, and one or more 8196KB astropulse data files, with names that match the task names you see in Task Manager.

Then you need to make sure that your editor hasn't put a hidden double file extension on the control file: app_info.xml.txt

After that, if it's still not working, ask again.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't there be an app_info.xml file?

All files on show on rig even hidden ones.

Without an app_info.xml there is nothing to tell your system not to run Stock.

The app_info.xml file needs to include references to both MB and AP if you want to run both Optimised.

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Message 819946 - Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 0:21:50 UTC

My result do not seem to be appearing is there some kind of built in delay because I know I have processed more than what seems to be appearing in my results, has anyone else experienced any difficulties with AP?
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Message 819949 - Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 0:29:31 UTC - in response to Message 819946.  

The WUs are listed on you task page when they are sent to you. Once the credit has been determined they are only left up on the task page for about a day.
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Message 827939 - Posted: 7 Nov 2008, 19:45:59 UTC

What is the difference between AP 4.36 x64 downloaded by boinc client and 4.35 from here? Which one is optimised to run using SSE? Currently 4.36x64 runs on my Quad Phenom for ~90h @750 credits. Will 4.35 run ~30h?
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Message 827969 - Posted: 7 Nov 2008, 20:45:21 UTC - in response to Message 827939.  
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What is the difference between AP 4.36 x64 downloaded by boinc client and 4.35 from here? Which one is optimised to run using SSE? Currently 4.36x64 runs on my Quad Phenom for ~90h @750 credits. Will 4.35 run ~30h?

Neither one is optimized - those are the standard applications.

My Phenom Windows machine runs them in ~29 hours with SSE3 optimized application (versus ~98 hours non-optimized). I don't know if anyone has an optimized Astropulse application for Linux.
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Message 827991 - Posted: 7 Nov 2008, 21:43:08 UTC - in response to Message 827939.  

What is the difference between AP 4.36 x64 downloaded by boinc client and 4.35 from here? Which one is optimised to run using SSE? Currently 4.36x64 runs on my Quad Phenom for ~90h @750 credits. Will 4.35 run ~30h?


As Leaps-from-Shadows pointed out, neither one are optimized. The only difference between AP v4.35 and v4.36 is that the latter one fixed a graphics bug for displaying the screen saver. Since the optimized apps don't currently make use of the graphics, there is no need to include those changes, so v4.35 works just as well.
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Message 829384 - Posted: 11 Nov 2008, 22:42:56 UTC - in response to Message 819946.  

Yes, My wu's have dropped since AP takes so long as compared to the classic Seti downloads.
Also, the graphics are sometimes messed up.
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Message 832199 - Posted: 19 Nov 2008, 20:50:39 UTC

I have gotten my first AP v5.00. What is main difference from v4.36?
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Message 832208 - Posted: 19 Nov 2008, 21:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 832199.  

Additional Software Radar Blanking ... Did you receive the stock v5 application here on main already?
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Message 832212 - Posted: 19 Nov 2008, 21:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 832208.  

Yes, it is crunching now.
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