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Message 795621 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 11:14:08 UTC - in response to Message 795536.  

I think part of that is you have more cache on yours that I do on mine, possibly a faster bus as well. I have 1 MB cache and a 800 MHz bus.

I hope your joking, our both processors are from the same type, share Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 and the L2 cache is part of the processor (BOINC shows the correct value on Linux but other OS's don't, old bug).
The FSB is 167MHz x4 = 667 on mine, and it should be the same on yours, if you don't overclock.
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Message 795754 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 16:11:33 UTC

My first AP WU is being crunched.

CPU:Q9450 @ 3.72
Percent completed: 25.445%
Hours: 6hrs 22 mins
Remaining hours to complete: 8hrs 50mins

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Message 795784 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 17:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 795621.  

I think part of that is you have more cache on yours that I do on mine, possibly a faster bus as well. I have 1 MB cache and a 800 MHz bus.

I hope your joking, our both processors are from the same type, share Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6 and the L2 cache is part of the processor (BOINC shows the correct value on Linux but other OS's don't, old bug).
The FSB is 167MHz x4 = 667 on mine, and it should be the same on yours, if you don't overclock.


I had to go check my specs and you are right I actually have the 4 MB and 667.


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Message 796254 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 10:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 795754.  

My first AP WU is being crunched.

CPU:Q9450 @ 3.72
Percent completed: 25.445%
Hours: 6hrs 22 mins
Remaining hours to complete: 8hrs 50mins

Just for comparison, my Q9450 is running @ 3.56 and I have 5 AP WU's currently waiting to upload all of which took between 25hrs 32mins and 25hrs 45mins to complete.

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Message 796319 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 15:02:12 UTC - in response to Message 796254.  

My first AP WU is being crunched.

CPU:Q9450 @ 3.72
Percent completed: 25.445%
Hours: 6hrs 22 mins
Remaining hours to complete: 8hrs 50mins

Just for comparison, my Q9450 is running @ 3.56 and I have 5 AP WU's currently waiting to upload all of which took between 25hrs 32mins and 25hrs 45mins to complete.

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BOINC estimate is a bit of optimistic. It finished at 26hrs and 11 mins. It took a bit longer than yours as this is rig is my primary pc for gaming, browsing, etc.

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Message 796328 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 15:29:14 UTC - in response to Message 796319.  


BOINC estimate is a bit of optimistic. It finished at 26hrs and 11 mins. It took a bit longer than yours as this is rig is my primary pc for gaming, browsing, etc.

Primary rig?? My Q9450 is my only rig other the lappie that I use for work purposes (occasionally crunches Beta) so this is used for everything as well as crunching.

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Message 796651 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008, 4:54:27 UTC

just got my first AP unit! it's a bout a day plus down in my queue, if it goes by the order in the BOINC window. estimated time, 47:16:32. we shall see what my 1.8 2 gig 24/7 iMac G5 can do. giddy up!

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Message 796824 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008, 15:24:10 UTC - in response to Message 796651.  

just got my first AP unit! it's a bout a day plus down in my queue, if it goes by the order in the BOINC window. estimated time, 47:16:32. we shall see what my 1.8 2 gig 24/7 iMac G5 can do. giddy up!

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My take would be to say 120 hours, as my iMac took 81.

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Message 796908 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008, 22:42:33 UTC

ok...on my last seti unit now, so should be starting the AP one in bout 2.8 hours. this could compel me to finally get that dual 3.2 quad core, 32 gig/ram Mac Pro i have been dreaming about. :)
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Message 798001 - Posted: 14 Aug 2008, 21:54:58 UTC

well - i am at 10.122% after 37 hours 18 minutes. so, i think i need to stick to seti units. darn.
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Message 798010 - Posted: 14 Aug 2008, 22:21:35 UTC - in response to Message 798001.  
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well - i am at 10.122% after 37 hours 18 minutes. so, i think i need to stick to seti units. darn.


So you have about 2 weeks CPU time left... Plenty of time to beat the 11 Sep, deadline. Your RAC on that host will be ~48 if only crunching AP WUs(assuming standard 715 credits per AP WU). Quite a drop from present RAC of ~140 :-(
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Message 798022 - Posted: 14 Aug 2008, 22:48:51 UTC

I decided to only run AP on my Dell as the iMac @81 hours was just too long for not much credit. Along with the fact that the AP app can crash if it tried to resume after being paused by other work.

The Dell does them in about 42 hours.

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Message 799214 - Posted: 17 Aug 2008, 7:20:27 UTC

I'm trying to get AP to work together with optimized SAH, but to no avail so far. I'm getting the following error:

file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
[error] No URL for file transfer of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[error] No URL for file transfer of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu

My app_info.xml is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_V8_linux32_ssse3</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>435</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
<open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

What am I doing wrong ?
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Message 799226 - Posted: 17 Aug 2008, 8:48:22 UTC - in response to Message 799214.  

I'm trying to get AP to work together with optimized SAH, but to no avail so far. I'm getting the following error:

file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
[error] No URL for file transfer of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[error] No URL for file transfer of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
...
What am I doing wrong ?

Are you:

1) Downloading the required files yourself?
2) Putting them in the project folder?
3) Setting them to be executable?
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Message 799551 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 7:10:28 UTC - in response to Message 799226.  

I'm trying to get AP to work together with optimized SAH, but to no avail so far. I'm getting the following error:

file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
[error] No URL for file transfer of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[error] No URL for file transfer of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
...
What am I doing wrong ?

Are you:

1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?
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Message 799556 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 7:47:37 UTC - in response to Message 799551.  

I'm trying to get AP to work together with optimized SAH, but to no avail so far. I'm getting the following error:

file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
[error] No URL for file transfer of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[error] No URL for file transfer of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
...
What am I doing wrong ?

Are you:

1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?

On the SETI@home page go to AboutAstropulse.
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Message 799564 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 8:55:03 UTC - in response to Message 799551.  

1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?

Normally, when you let BOINC run by itself, it downloads the files it needs and keeps them up to date.

But when you change to running optimised applications, you release BOINC from the responsibility, and take it over yourself - after all, that's what you want, isn't it? To run a special application, instead of relying on BOINC's own choice?

Unfortunately, that personal choice extends across the whole SETI project, so you now have the responsibility of supplying and maintaining the Astropulse files yourself - so if a new version comes out, you'll need to make some changes.

That applies to all optimisers - please keep an eye on this message board, and be prepared to update if anything changes (mind you, we don't expect anything soon).
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Message 799622 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 14:35:17 UTC - in response to Message 799551.  

I'm trying to get AP to work together with optimized SAH, but to no avail so far. I'm getting the following error:

file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu not found
[error] No URL for file transfer of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[error] No URL for file transfer of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu
...
What am I doing wrong ?

Are you:

1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?


See this message. It gives you the download links. Just right click on the files at the bottom of the message and select 'Save target as'...

Props to Henri for the links...
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Message 799639 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 15:29:58 UTC - in response to Message 799556.  
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1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?

On the SETI@home page go to AboutAstropulse.
Tullio

Well, they must have updated this page very recently as the link to the client was not there last time I checked it (less than one week ago)...

In any case, thanks everyone! I now got AP setup. I still did not get any AP WU, but at least BOINC seems happy with how things are set up.
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Message 799665 - Posted: 18 Aug 2008, 17:21:54 UTC - in response to Message 799639.  


1) Downloading the required files yourself?

Of course not... BOINC is supposed to do this by itself, no ? It tries, but it doesn't find the files on the site, obviously. Neither can I... what are the download links ?

On the SETI@home page go to AboutAstropulse.
Tullio

Well, they must have updated this page very recently as the link to the client was not there last time I checked it (less than one week ago)...

In any case, thanks everyone! I now got AP setup. I still did not get any AP WU, but at least BOINC seems happy with how things are set up.

Neither have I but the optimized app is definitely faster
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