Richard,

I note the same thing as John.

I just checked my other machines - they have each downloaded an AP WU, but I know that I did NOT alter the app_info file on those other machines. Furthermore, there were no program files downloaded, nor were there any in the directories. (I did manually download and install the AP files to only one machine.) An excerpt in the message log from the one machine here at work reads:

8/4/2008 8:05:02 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 6 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:05:07 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:06:07 AM|SETI@home|Fetching scheduler list
8/4/2008 8:06:12 AM|SETI@home|Master file download succeeded
8/4/2008 8:06:17 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:06:22 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:07:22 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:07:32 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:08:32 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:08:37 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:09:37 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:09:42 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:10:42 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:10:47 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:52 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu_0 in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:59 AM|SETI@home|Started download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195
8/4/2008 8:11:59 AM|SETI@home|Started download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.213
8/4/2008 8:12:01 AM|SETI@home|Finished download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Finished download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.213
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Starting 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195_2
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Starting task 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 528


Having dumped the AP unit, this machine is now trying to get more WUs.


PS after lurking for years, I can now finally understand the rush....



EDIT: I just read the thread on Ghost WUs. Looks like the same problem as I run the AK app on all machines, but AP only on one. It is grinding away - one third complete in 40.75 hours. Yikes!

Richard,


8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu_0 in scheduler reply

This is basically the same thing I posted in the PS3 thread in this message - except for me it's the opposite, project-wise. I have an app_info.xml for AP that does not include multibeam enhanced.

FYI

-Dave

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Same for me also with my PS3. The app_info file contains nothing about multibeam and I want only Astropulse work on the PS3. Now it has 2 "ghost" work units for Seti Multibeam which it rejected immediately.

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Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....

I will check when I get home. It is my Q9450 rig, and the task is here. I just got it sometime today. I will post the messages in the BOINC log and check for any D/L of the AP files. It is almost 1600 CDT now, and I should have an answer before 2200 CDT.

Ah - it's past 22:00 BST here, and your ETA will be around 04:00 BST. I'm not going to be awake to write any sort of a bug report, emergency or otherwise, at that time! If anyone else can spot a problem in John's logs, could they deal with it, please?

But if you've only seen the task details on the website so far, then the chances are that it's another ghost, and merely evidence that Eric didn't succeed in fixing the scheduler last (Sunday) night.

Here is the text from the message log:

8/4/2008 5:42:52 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
8/4/2008 5:42:52 AM|SETI@home|Requesting 930063 seconds of new work
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 603]
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu_2 in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project


Guess it is another ghost...it's not in my task file on my PC. If you need any more info, let me know...

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Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward

...
But if you've only seen the task details on the website so far, then the chances are that it's another ghost, and merely evidence that Eric didn't succeed in fixing the scheduler last (Sunday) night.

Here is the text from the message log:

8/4/2008 5:42:52 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
8/4/2008 5:42:52 AM|SETI@home|Requesting 930063 seconds of new work
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 603]
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B5_P0_00129_20080802_10838.wu_2 in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
8/4/2008 5:43:03 AM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project


Guess it is another ghost...it's not in my task file on my PC. If you need any more info, let me know...

It is another ghost; the "Can't handle task" stuff is saying the core client refuses to download the AP work which the Scheduler told it to get. The core client does not report it as an error to the Scheduler so the task is still assigned to the host as far as server-side is concerned.

Once they fix the issue of assigning work to hosts which can't do it, it would be kind to wingmen to set NNT, complete and report all work, and do a detach and reattach to get those ghosts reissued to another host.

                                                              Joe

so after messing up the install of the app.info.xml bit to upgrade my (Mac ppc) enhanced client, i trashed everything and started over. wow, i was still using version 5.x of BOINC and the blue B icon is gone!

anyhow, now back up and running with what is the standard app (setiathome advanced 5.28). the Mac is crunching the seti units at 1-3.5 hours or so, as it has been doing for some time. now i see a new work unit is projected to take 8+ hours and has an august 24th reporting date. might that be an Astropulse work unit???

here it is:

Task ID 942373607
Name 17jn08ae.4159.117659.3.8.148_1

Sedge

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if by chance an honest man like yourself were to make enemies, they would become my enemies. and then they will fear you.

so after messing up the install of the app.info.xml bit to upgrade my (Mac ppc) enhanced client, i trashed everything and started over. wow, i was still using version 5.x of BOINC and the blue B icon is gone!

anyhow, now back up and running with what is the standard app (setiathome advanced 5.28). the Mac is crunching the seti units at 1-3.5 hours or so, as it has been doing for some time. now i see a new work unit is projected to take 8+ hours and has an august 24th reporting date. might that be an Astropulse work unit???

here it is:

Task ID 942373607
Name 17jn08ae.4159.117659.3.8.148_1

Sedge

AP unit start the name ap_02jn08aa_......... and have 30 day deadline.

What you have done has reset your Duration Correction Factor (DCF) to the default of 1.000000, it would probably be less than 0.50000 before that.
DCF's as low as 0.25 are not uncommon using default application and much lower if using an optimised application.

So...in attempting to allow one of my PCs to do AP WUs, I made a mistake (apologies to my wing[men/women/persons]) and did a partial Berkeley Flush. I copied the app_info.xml that was posted, but forgot that this PC was running Windows x64. Does anyone have a copy of the app_info.xml that would work with x64 and the Lunatis x64 SSSE3? Thanks...

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So...in attempting to allow one of my PCs to do AP WUs, I made a mistake (apologies to my wing[men/women/persons]) and did a partial Berkeley Flush. I copied the app_info.xml that was posted, but forgot that this PC was running Windows x64. Does anyone have a copy of the app_info.xml that would work with x64 and the Lunatics x64 SSSE3? Thanks...

I tried using AstroPulse and an Optimized XP x64 Seti app, No go here, It just made Me run out of work in Seti.

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

And now I noticed that the one I had previously installed it on (32-bit Windows) deleted the AP application when BOINC started up. Weird...

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Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward

Huhh.. I got my first AP-WU.. but didn't changed the app_info.xml and so on..
Hope the server will be updated/fixed soon..!




No Windows/x86_64 AP-app??
setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps
Officially an Enhanced app for Win/64Bit is not available.
So we must wait now also to the time the opt. team will make a Win/64Bit AP-app??

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So...in attempting to allow one of my PCs to do AP WUs, I made a mistake (apologies to my wing[men/women/persons]) and did a partial Berkeley Flush. I copied the app_info.xml that was posted, but forgot that this PC was running Windows x64. Does anyone have a copy of the app_info.xml that would work with x64 and the Lunatis x64 SSSE3? Thanks...

Looks like the total damage was 284 WUs before I hit the 'Suspend' button. Probably 1-2 seconds between "Ohsh" and suspend...

Would love to get a mulligan on those...

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Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward

Well, not sure it'll help, but I'm running 64bit AK SSE3x and my app_info.xml looks like what follows. I have yet to kill any MultiBeam WU's, but I also haven't received any AstroPulse... Now might be a good time to split a few extra AstroPulse WU's, what with the MB splitters all sleeping. :-)

<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
[ SNIP ]
    <app>
        <name>astropulse</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
[ SNIP ]

</app_info>

OK. Seems like Sutaru may have raised the question I should have earlier.

Can I run the 64 Bit Op App on my 64 bit O/S, yet still have the project send me work for the 32 Bit AstroPulse App?

Seeing as the servers are probably taking a look at my platform and happily thinking "I don't have any AP work for 64 Bit clients" it no longer surprises me that I haven't yet seen a single AP WU. :-)

* Sigh *

So I'll second Sutaru's question. When can we hope for a Windows 64 bit AP client? :-)

OK. Seems like Sutaru may have raised the question I should have earlier.

Can I run the 64 Bit Op App on my 64 bit O/S, yet still have the project send me work for the 32 Bit AstroPulse App?

Seeing as the servers are probably taking a look at my platform and happily thinking "I don't have any AP work for 64 Bit clients" it no longer surprises me that I haven't yet seen a single AP WU. :-)
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The WUs are the same for all platforms, and when using an app_info.xml your platform is "anonymous", not any flavor of Windows, Linux, etc. The request to the Scheduler does include the file names, but you can see that the optimized apps don't adhere to the project naming convention with "...windows_intelx86" and similar, yet the optimized apps do get work. In effect, all that should matter is that you have an application for "astropulse".

With the Scheduler doing wierd things for anonymous platform hosts, it's hard to say whether it's coincidence or part of that problem which has kept you from getting an AP WU.

                                                               Joe

I wasn't sure about the other AP thread, So I've posted this here, I don't know If this code is correct, But It's here for those that would like It.
I tried modifying an AP/MB app info file and wound up having to reinstall as I'd only modified the file partly and I'd missed the x64 part of the file name for the MB seti app for XP. But all is well now and PC1 has a few days worth of Seti files once again, Me I'll wait since I use optimized seti apps.

I managed to merge the AP and MB apps like so(They seem to be running fine together, But No AP WU's yet):

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>435</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

OK. Seems like Sutaru may have raised the question I should have earlier.

Can I run the 64 Bit Op App on my 64 bit O/S, yet still have the project send me work for the 32 Bit AstroPulse App?

Seeing as the servers are probably taking a look at my platform and happily thinking "I don't have any AP work for 64 Bit clients" it no longer surprises me that I haven't yet seen a single AP WU. :-)

* Sigh *

So I'll second Sutaru's question. When can we hope for a Windows 64 bit AP client? :-)

This is not an issue.

I'm running Vista Home Premium 64-bit with the AK-V8 SSSE3x and a modified app_info.xml. I have so far successfully crunched one AP WU. My rig happened to hit a sweet spot just before yesterday's outage and uploaded its whole backlog, at which point it downloaded nearly 300 WU's including about 12 AP WU's.

F.

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Just wanted to report:

I got an astropulse workunit with the modified app_info.xml :D
Here it is: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=944142706
So it works! Now waiting for the start, there are lots of MB-WUs ahead... ;)

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Aloha, Uli

OK. Seems like Sutaru may have raised the question I should have earlier.

Can I run the 64 Bit Op App on my 64 bit O/S, yet still have the project send me work for the 32 Bit AstroPulse App?

Seeing as the servers are probably taking a look at my platform and happily thinking "I don't have any AP work for 64 Bit clients" it no longer surprises me that I haven't yet seen a single AP WU. :-)

* Sigh *

So I'll second Sutaru's question. When can we hope for a Windows 64 bit AP client? :-)

This is not an issue.

I'm running Vista Home Premium 64-bit with the AK-V8 SSSE3x and a modified app_info.xml. I have so far successfully crunched one AP WU. My rig happened to hit a sweet spot just before yesterday's outage and uploaded its whole backlog, at which point it downloaded nearly 300 WU's including about 12 AP WU's.

F.

Fantastic. Thanks for the confirmation Fred. And I just looked and I finally did get an AP WU! Yippie!!! (I think ;-))

OK. Seems like Sutaru may have raised the question I should have earlier.

Can I run the 64 Bit Op App on my 64 bit O/S, yet still have the project send me work for the 32 Bit AstroPulse App?

Seeing as the servers are probably taking a look at my platform and happily thinking "I don't have any AP work for 64 Bit clients" it no longer surprises me that I haven't yet seen a single AP WU. :-)

* Sigh *

So I'll second Sutaru's question. When can we hope for a Windows 64 bit AP client? :-)

This is not an issue.

I'm running Vista Home Premium 64-bit with the AK-V8 SSSE3x and a modified app_info.xml. I have so far successfully crunched one AP WU. My rig happened to hit a sweet spot just before yesterday's outage and uploaded its whole backlog, at which point it downloaded nearly 300 WU's including about 12 AP WU's.

F.

Fred...could you post your app_info.xml? When I tried it on my XPx64 I did the Berkekey Flush of 284 WUs. Did you D/L the AP app and associated files separately from the links above [or below] that someone posted? As I stated earlier, one of my PCs (XP 32 bit) that DIDN'T start flushing WUs that had the modded app_info.xml to accept AP WUs decided to delete the AP app and associated files when BOINC started up. I am at a loss as what to do next. I know that my Q9450 has D/Led a few of the AP WUs, but BOINC deletes them even before they get into my transfer que(sp?). Otherwise I would just abort the D/L and send it back...

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Fred...could you post your app_info.xml? When I tried it on my XPx64 I did the Berkekey Flush of 284 WUs. Did you D/L the AP app and associated files separately from the links above [or below] that someone posted? As I stated earlier, one of my PCs (XP 32 bit) that DIDN'T start flushing WUs that had the modded app_info.xml to accept AP WUs decided to delete the AP app and associated files when BOINC started up. I am at a loss as what to do next. I know that my Q9450 has D/Led a few of the AP WUs, but BOINC deletes them even before they get into my transfer que(sp?). Otherwise I would just abort the D/L and send it back...

No problemo.

After a "net stop boinc" ('cause I am running as a service), I copied all the associated files linked in the previous post into the ..../projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu folder then incorporated Richard's mods in the app_info.xml to give the following:

<app_info>
    <app>
        <name>astropulse</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse</app_name>
        <version_num>435</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
            <open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app>
        <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
    </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>517</version_num>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>527</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>528</version_num>
        <file_ref>
           <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>

A "net start boinc" and it came up sweet as a nut.

Good luck!

F.

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