Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>435</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_graphics_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<open_name>graphics_app</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>517</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>527</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Thanks again!

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I still have not received any AP units, hopefully soon though so I can see how they will do on my systems.

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Apparently I have either a coding or (more likely) a cognitive deficiency that prevents me from getting BOINC running the Windows 32 bit AK8.0 SSSE3 (Intel) App to accept Astropulse WUs. I have downloaded the appropriate files, added them to my C:\Program Files\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, replaced the app_Info.xlm file and rebooted the computer. Instead of adding Astropulse, I am now wanted in 3 systems for the mass murder of pending S@H WU's. BOINC also puts me in time-out for 15 hours to ponder the lint in my navel.

Let's have another try, then ;-) You say that you replaced app_info.xml. What exactly do you mean by that? Did you completely replace the old app_info.xml by a new one containing (only) the text that Henri gave as an example? Or did you change the existing app_info.xml by adding Henri's text to it (which is what you're supposed to do)?

Would it help if I post you my version of a working .xml which I use on my test system? You would have to edit it slightly I guess, but at least you can use it to compare to your own version.

Regards,
John.

Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>

....

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Thanks again!

I think you have been bitten by a BOINC bug which we spotted at beta, and reported to the developers.

Try taking out the space before the backslash in lines like

<executable />
<main_program />

so that they read

<executable/>
<main_program/>

What error messages did you get in your BOINC Manager when the SAH WUs got trashed?

I think you have been bitten by a BOINC bug which we spotted at beta, and reported to the developers.

Try taking out the space before the backslash in lines like

<executable />
<main_program />

so that they read

<executable/>
<main_program/>

What error messages did you get in your BOINC Manager when the SAH WUs got trashed?

That was what I looking at as well, they show up much better when you paste into a different program.

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Here it is:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astropulse_4.35_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />

etc.......

I tend to agree with the previous posters about the spaces. I compared your app_info.xml to mine, and the only difference is a couple of those spaces that I don't have in some of those <whatever/> phrases. I wasn't brave enough to take them out of my .xml to see what happens though ;-)

Regards,
John.

Deleting the spaces did it!

No error messages and pending WU's were right there waiting on reboot.

I thank John, Richard, Mumps and Arkayn for their help. They have saved 40 innocent, unsuspecting WUs from certain redistribution and me from pitchfork-wielding wingmen!

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Just to let you know that it works and thank you for the effort of putting the required changes on the forum, saved me a lot of thinking, tinkering and typing!

Good to know it works. I have not got AP WUs yet.

Thanks but it was Richard Haselgrove who did most of the job in creating the working app_info.xml, I think. :)

Henri.

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Just to let you know that it works and thank you for the effort of putting the required changes on the forum, saved me a lot of thinking, tinkering and typing!

Good to know it works. I have not got AP WUs yet.

Thanks but it was Richard Haselgrove who did most of the job in creating the working app_info.xml, I think. :)

Henri.

Okay, a big thank you to Richard as well then :-)

Regards,
John.

Just got an AP unit on my iMac, says 17.75 hours as its initial run time, of course it is at the bottom of the list right now.

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Thanks to Henri for postings on modifying app_info and to Josef for the hint to check the sched request file.
After waiting about 4 days -- I got my first AP unit - woohoo! Looks like 70+ hours for a desktop slogger like me. It certainly reduces the number of WUs in the task tab.

A couple of words of warning for hard-core optimisers, based on our experiences in Beta testing.

1) Don't trust the initial estimates. BOINC can only keep track of one duration correction factor per project, and the figures for AP haven't even been fine-tuned to match the figures for stock MB. Optimised applications throw yet a third factor into the equation.

As a rule of thumb, a stock Q6600 will take about 40 hours for an AP WU, and a 2.8 GHz P4 about 100 hours. If your copy of BOINC has become 'acclimatised' to running high-yield VHAR 'shorties' with AK_V8, it could estimate that AP will take as little as one quarter of those times. Be especially careful about the risk of over-caching when the splitters start running at full speed.

2) AMD processors seem to be less efficient, pro-rata, than Intel processors when running AP: your over-caching problems could be even worse. This problem has been sent off to the analysis labs at Lunatics, but no final diagnosis has been received yet.

3) (OK, three words) AP may not play well on hyperthreaded CPUs. Only one report so far, with AP running alongside a CPDN 'slab' model, but it ran really, really slowly. If you have a hyperthreaded CPU, and your AP times are way above the 'rule of thumb' above, then consider suspending all other tasks and running the AP task on its own.

ok, have a question. I am running the sse41 app on my Q9450. I have added the code to the xml file and have copied all items over. I start boinc and get this...

8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Einstein@Home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7]
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 sse3
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: , Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 4.23 GB virtual
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Disk: 139.73 GB total, 68.34 GB free
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Local time is UTC +1 hours
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Einstein@Home|URL: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID: 1299368; location: home; project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|URL: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID: 17633; location: (none); project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|URL: http://qah.uni-muenster.de/; Computer ID: 103924; location: (none); project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4382958; location: home; project prefs: default
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 06-Apr-2008 10:27:27)
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Host location: home
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for home
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 2046.31MB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2046.31MB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 68.34GB
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task two_470_peptidexp-ecp2.4809_0 using Amolqc-preRC1exp version 501
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task four_357_peptidsm-ecp2.2621_1 using Amolqc-preRC1 version 501
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|Restarting task gs_3721282_1217907134_79731_0 using astronomy version 122
8/4/2008 12:03:30 PM|Milkyway@home|Restarting task gs_3731382_1217907138_79892_0 using astronomy version 122
8/4/2008 12:04:06 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
8/4/2008 12:04:06 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 603]
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
8/4/2008 12:04:11 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project

Why would it not be requesting new work? Do I have everything installed right? Usually it will ask for 0 seconds of work if it has plenty of WUs.

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Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

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Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

John,

Are you absolutely sure about what you've just said? That the rig has an app_info.xml file specifying setiathome_enhanced only, and you got a full Astropulse download anyway? Did you get the program files with it? Do the program files exist in your project directory? Could you try suspending any earlier work (if any) in your cache for a moment, to see if the Astropulse WU actually runs?

Please be very careful about checking all that - it doesn't sound as if the Berkeley server is behaving at all the way it should. I may be basing an emergency bug report to Eric Korpela on your replies, so it would be helpful if you could post a snip of the message log showing the download and the AP app starting.

Just a thought...shouldn't Lunatics post a modded app_info.xml file to download? I am using the op app, and just noticed that one of my quads D/Led an AP WU, and I haven't touched anything on that rig in days. (And yes, I know about the other thread about the "Ghost AP WUs".)

Just a thought...

John,

Are you absolutely sure about what you've just said? That the rig has an app_info.xml file specifying setiathome_enhanced only, and you got a full Astropulse download anyway? Did you get the program files with it? Do the program files exist in your project directory? Could you try suspending any earlier work (if any) in your cache for a moment, to see if the Astropulse WU actually runs?

Please be very careful about checking all that - it doesn't sound as if the Berkeley server is behaving at all the way it should. I may be basing an emergency bug report to Eric Korpela on your replies, so it would be helpful if you could post a snip of the message log showing the download and the AP app starting.

I will check when I get home. It is my Q9450 rig, and the task is here. I just got it sometime today. I will post the messages in the BOINC log and check for any D/L of the AP files. It is almost 1600 CDT now, and I should have an answer before 2200 CDT.

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I will check when I get home. It is my Q9450 rig, and the task is here. I just got it sometime today. I will post the messages in the BOINC log and check for any D/L of the AP files. It is almost 1600 CDT now, and I should have an answer before 2200 CDT.

Ah - it's past 22:00 BST here, and your ETA will be around 04:00 BST. I'm not going to be awake to write any sort of a bug report, emergency or otherwise, at that time! If anyone else can spot a problem in John's logs, could they deal with it, please?

But if you've only seen the task details on the website so far, then the chances are that it's another ghost, and merely evidence that Eric didn't succeed in fixing the scheduler last (Sunday) night.

Richard,

I note the same thing as John.

I just checked my other machines - they have each downloaded an AP WU, but I know that I did NOT alter the app_info file on those other machines. Furthermore, there were no program files downloaded, nor were there any in the directories. (I did manually download and install the AP files to only one machine.) An excerpt in the message log from the one machine here at work reads:

8/4/2008 8:05:02 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 6 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:05:07 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:06:07 AM|SETI@home|Fetching scheduler list
8/4/2008 8:06:12 AM|SETI@home|Master file download succeeded
8/4/2008 8:06:17 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:06:22 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:07:22 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:07:32 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:08:32 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:08:37 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:09:37 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:09:42 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:10:42 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:10:47 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:52 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu_0 in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:59 AM|SETI@home|Started download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195
8/4/2008 8:11:59 AM|SETI@home|Started download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.213
8/4/2008 8:12:01 AM|SETI@home|Finished download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Finished download of 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.213
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Starting 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195_2
8/4/2008 8:12:02 AM|SETI@home|Starting task 28fe08ab.7089.13569.4.8.195_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 528


Having dumped the AP unit, this machine is now trying to get more WUs.


PS after lurking for years, I can now finally understand the rush....



EDIT: I just read the thread on Ghost WUs. Looks like the same problem as I run the AK app on all machines, but AP only on one. It is grinding away - one third complete in 40.75 hours. Yikes!

Richard,


8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu in scheduler reply
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] State file error: missing task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu
8/4/2008 8:11:57 AM|SETI@home|[error] Can't handle task ap_03jn08aa_B4_P0_00364_20080804_10720.wu_0 in scheduler reply

This is basically the same thing I posted in the PS3 thread in this message - except for me it's the opposite, project-wise. I have an app_info.xml for AP that does not include multibeam enhanced.

FYI

-Dave

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Same for me also with my PS3. The app_info file contains nothing about multibeam and I want only Astropulse work on the PS3. Now it has 2 "ghost" work units for Seti Multibeam which it rejected immediately.

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