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Message 758382 - Posted: 25 May 2008, 16:11:46 UTC - in response to Message 758350.  







The price of VPower looks impressive.

Just the opec cartel laughing at ya..........


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I would never buy a drop.

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Message 758510 - Posted: 25 May 2008, 19:57:15 UTC

Friday Gas jumped $.10 in one hour here to $3.93/ gal.




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Message 758617 - Posted: 26 May 2008, 0:53:19 UTC
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Message 758648 - Posted: 26 May 2008, 2:19:42 UTC

With the holiday weekend here in the U.S. (Memorial Day), gas prices jumped about $.20. I just filled up at $4.19/gal (again, 87 octane). Prices have hit $4.40 - $4.50 in the city.
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Message 758747 - Posted: 26 May 2008, 7:42:36 UTC

I heard a while back (perhaps a few months) it costs US$0.02 for an Arabian country to extract a barrel of oil... and how much are they selling it for? About US$135.....

The truth is, there's about 75% of oil left....

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Message 758776 - Posted: 26 May 2008, 9:47:46 UTC - in response to Message 758747.  

I heard a while back (perhaps a few months) it costs US$0.02 for an Arabian country to extract a barrel of oil... and how much are they selling it for? About US$135.....

The truth is, there's about 75% of oil left....

Yes..but we are consuming it at an exponential rate so it isn't going to last as long as that first 25 % did.
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Message 758886 - Posted: 26 May 2008, 15:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 758776.  

I heard a while back (perhaps a few months) it costs US$0.02 for an Arabian country to extract a barrel of oil... and how much are they selling it for? About US$135.....

The truth is, there's about 75% of oil left....

Yes..but we are consuming it at an exponential rate so it isn't going to last as long as that first 25 % did.

Also a lot of that crude is in relatively small pockets that are difficult to drill economically or are in places like the deep ocean that will never be exploited in our lifetime.
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Message 759259 - Posted: 27 May 2008, 7:18:43 UTC - in response to Message 758886.  

I heard a while back (perhaps a few months) it costs US$0.02 for an Arabian country to extract a barrel of oil... and how much are they selling it for? About US$135.....

The truth is, there's about 75% of oil left....

Yes..but we are consuming it at an exponential rate so it isn't going to last as long as that first 25 % did.

Also a lot of that crude is in relatively small pockets that are difficult to drill economically or are in places like the deep ocean that will never be exploited in our lifetime.


True... and as Es99 (part i) stated.... our demand is exponentially increasing...
So all round doom and gloom.... :(

Petrol Unleaded 95 hit NZ$2.00 per litre in Wellington NZ, a few days back....

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Message 760967 - Posted: 30 May 2008, 23:59:37 UTC - in response to Message 758617.  

Hydrogen Fuel - Engine Fundamentals #1

Hydrogen is not "fuel" it is a transport.

You burn the fuel someplace else, use that to split hydrogen away from something else (usually water), take it to the fueling station, and then burn it in your car.

... but the energy comes from nuclear, or solar, or coal, or whatever you have to "make" the hydrogen in the first place.

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Message 761117 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 3:55:13 UTC - in response to Message 760967.  

Hydrogen Fuel - Engine Fundamentals #1

Hydrogen is not "fuel" it is a transport.

You burn the fuel someplace else, use that to split hydrogen away from something else (usually water), take it to the fueling station, and then burn it in your car.

... but the energy comes from nuclear, or solar, or coal, or whatever you have to "make" the hydrogen in the first place.


Hydrogen can be generated by the vehicle it is being used in... Split out of water using power from the vehicles' alternator..... AND... used as fuel. No fuel station required, no other fuel burned to generate it.
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Message 761259 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 12:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 760938.  


Oh yeah, because the people in the UK are perfectly happy paying some of the highest prices in the world. "Charge me more please! Oh, and I need some free health care too."

Heh heh.
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Message 761261 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 12:19:39 UTC


Believe me Rush we in germany feel the same.

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Message 761266 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 12:31:20 UTC - in response to Message 761261.  

Believe me Rush we in germany feel the same.

Feel the same what, that it's wrong for Americans to complain about high gas prices? I mean, the complaints as posted here on these boards are mostly mindless drivel about oil company profit and whatnot, but I don't think that's what you feel the same about.

Begging for more gov't programs so that you think "the gov't" is paying for them has driven your fuel costs though the roof. Americans are starting to catch up with stupid ideas that further drive costs up. Limiting refineries, preventing exploration, et cetera.

What a great plan. Though you environmental types should kinda be thrilled. It may bankrupt those that can afford it least, but it *might* lower total usage. Maybe.

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Message 761269 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 12:37:00 UTC


This tactics dont work.
We use lower patrol every year by rising aamount of vehicles.
The result is just higher taxes.

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Message 761270 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 12:38:30 UTC

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Message 761309 - Posted: 31 May 2008, 15:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 761117.  

Hydrogen Fuel - Engine Fundamentals #1

Hydrogen is not "fuel" it is a transport.

You burn the fuel someplace else, use that to split hydrogen away from something else (usually water), take it to the fueling station, and then burn it in your car.

... but the energy comes from nuclear, or solar, or coal, or whatever you have to "make" the hydrogen in the first place.


Hydrogen can be generated by the vehicle it is being used in... Split out of water using power from the vehicles' alternator..... AND... used as fuel. No fuel station required, no other fuel burned to generate it.



Unfortunately, the highlighted bit is a definition of the perpetual motion machine, where motion and energy is free. This does not exist in reality.

The use of high effieiency electrolysis of water to split it in to it's constituant parts - 2 atoms of Hydrogen and one of Oxygen then sending it to the air intake of a conventional petrol or diesel engine is OK.

The energy for the electrolysis is drawn from the vehicle battery, which in turn draws on the petrol or diesel being used to fuel the engine. This system/kit is variously known as HHO gas/Brown's gas equipment.

The burning of the air intake fed 2 atoms of Hydrogen and one atom of Oxygen is said to smooth out the burn of petrol or diesel and improve response and lower fuel ccnsumption. This results in various claims for improved fuel consumption ranging from 25% to 250%. Examples of these sort of claims can be seen here or Googling for Brown's Gas or HHO Gas systems

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Message 761621 - Posted: 1 Jun 2008, 9:43:17 UTC

Good morning!
Today and for the first time the local prices for 98 Octans gasoline have reached 1,006 €/liter.
For metric conversions, see: WorldWideMetric
For foreign currencies: Universal Currency Converter.
Though, it is annoying such expensive prices, something must be done in order to reduce pollution.


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Message 761756 - Posted: 1 Jun 2008, 17:53:13 UTC

Hey lets Have all the oil companies dig up, tear up where ever they want to find oil!! and have no regard for area they are exploring!!

I am for exploration however the Oil companies have not shown to the masses that they can operate they equipment with hurting the surrounding in which the are exploring.

Example. The oil spill in Alaska to name one.

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