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Message 763108 - Posted: 5 Jun 2008, 10:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 763104.  

In a bit of hilarity, I ordered a bunch of stuff on-line from the LSE yesterday. A big bunch of logowear and giftware for people back home and whatnot.

I laughed like hell when I noticed it was cheaper to ship the whole lot back to the U.S., than it was to pay VAT and local shipping. The fuel here is so expensive, combined with the insane tax rates, that it was CHEAPER for me to send it, with a tracking number, 4000 miles away.

Needless to say, I shipped everything back to the U.S., AND avoided the tax entirely, AND saved money.


Good for you, Rush.

Most logical people faced with the tax regime we have had imposed on us over the last 11 years would have done the same.
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Message 763120 - Posted: 5 Jun 2008, 11:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 763108.  
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Good for you, Rush.

Most logical people faced with the tax regime we have had imposed on us over the last 11 years would have done the same.

I figure as much, and I sure hope so.

When I go home, I always offer to pick up little things for my friends, like memory for their computers, MP3 players or whatnot. They save an enormous amount of money not buying that stuff here and avoiding the tax completely.
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Message 763169 - Posted: 5 Jun 2008, 14:54:01 UTC

The fault lies with our greedy Treasury, and the assumption by our current leaders that tax has no natural upper limit to it's price, unlike the price of traded products.

Mind you, it also is a reflection of the British psyche that we allow the situation to arise.

But, I think there have been a number of protest messages to the Government, over the last 5 years, that suggests the Tax burden is getting to it's maximum limit (unless you work in the Public Sector or do not pay tax because income is so low or tax free).
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Message 763501 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 10:19:41 UTC

$4.899 for Diesel in Roosevelt, UT today. $344 to fill up. (Extra tank in bed of truck)
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Message 763519 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 10:41:59 UTC

Gas/Petrol prices are not budging...

Reserve Bank of New Zealand declared its economic predictions for the next few months... which resulted in the NZ Dollar to slump against the Greenback by 1.5 cents... and even though Crude is ~US$122... down from a peak of US$135ish... the greedy gas companies ova' here continue to hoard NZ$2.01/litre....


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Message 763543 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 11:54:43 UTC

Gas Prices Here in the south part of Kansas range from $3.62 to $3.67

Diesel ranges from $4.45 to $4.79

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Message 763749 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 22:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 763501.  

$4.899 for Diesel in Roosevelt, UT today. $344 to fill up. (Extra tank in bed of truck)

Yikes, I can fill up my Camaro over five times for those $s.
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Message 763752 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 22:54:07 UTC

Autogas has now risen to 59p/l at Morrisons. Though at least i can still laugh at those poor individuals (as in, everyone else) whose pump shows more pounds than litres!
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Message 763981 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 8:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 763749.  

$4.899 for Diesel in Roosevelt, UT today. $344 to fill up. (Extra tank in bed of truck)

Yikes, I can fill up my Camaro over five times for those $s.


I use my pickup thoroughly, hauling things around the farm, and the oilfield. I practically live in it. I haven't bothered checking to see how many miles between fill-ups, but I routinely get 16 to 18 mpg of Diesel.
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Message 763999 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 9:55:44 UTC

Some Nostalgia may ease the pain--or make it worse. When I was just graduated from High school--waiting to go into College i worked at a gas station in Charleston, South Carolina. Regular was 24.9 cents per Gallon and Premium was 26.9.

We sold Kerosine as well for 19 cents per gallon. Truckers would try to buy the Kerosine since it didn't have any motor fuel tax on it (kerosine worked fine in a Diesel Engine).

One day a guy comes in and fills up his brand new Buick Invicta convertible with Premium. The bill was $6.36. I was laughing inside at the tremendous cost of this fill-up and thought how foolish it was to have an auto that was so costly to fill up.

I remember about 7 years earlier than that when I drove down with my mother to Florida (1950). Gas was 19.9 cents per gallon at that time. However, there was a gas war going on all through Georgia and the advertised price on the highway billboards was 13.9 cents.

My first new car after college was a 1966 Pontiac GTO. Gas in 1968 -1969 was still only 29.9 cents. as late as 1978 i could run my used Datsun 510 for 1 cent per mile fuel cost.

My point is that if you are investing for your future retirement, be sure to to figure on an order of magnitude of today's costs for everything if retirement is is 40 years down the road.

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Message 764019 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 10:36:06 UTC - in response to Message 763999.  

My point is that if you are investing for your future retirement, be sure to to figure on an order of magnitude of today's costs for everything if retirement is is 40 years down the road.


That suggests, if you can afford it, to look to something like a a Tesla electric car able to do 220 miles per charge @ 2 cents per mile.. Just think of the improved range as battery technology improves!
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Message 764023 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 10:43:02 UTC

Now that Tesla Roadster is one good looking car!
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Message 764030 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 10:55:41 UTC - in response to Message 764023.  

Now that Tesla Roadster is one good looking car!


Partly being built at Hethel, near Norwich, by Lotus Cars
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Message 764100 - Posted: 7 Jun 2008, 12:24:55 UTC - in response to Message 764093.  
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Some Nostalgia may ease the pain--or make it worse.


Ya want some real nostalgia?

I passed my driving test and got my first car in 1963. I could drive into a garage with a £1 note, buy 4 gallons of Shell Mex at 4s 10d a gallon (24p) plus 4 shots of Red-Ex at 1d each, and still drive back out with change in my pocket.

OK, beat that!

Well.....Our Lady of Fast Acceleration.......don't fail us now.....LOL....Bet they didn't make it to Chicago at $4.00 a gallon........
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Message 765864 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 22:26:13 UTC

$4.55/Gal for Regular Unleaded at a station in Danville, California. (The most expensive I've seen yet.)


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Message 765878 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 22:41:14 UTC

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Message 765936 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 23:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 765933.  

Some Nostalgia may ease the pain--or make it worse.


Ya want some real nostalgia?

I passed my driving test and got my first car in 1963. I could drive into a garage with a £1 note, buy 4 gallons of Shell Mex at 4s 10d a gallon (24p) plus 4 shots of Red-Ex at 1d each, and still drive back out with change in my pocket.

OK, beat that!

I remember the "gas wars" when I was very young...$.15 - $.17 a gallon. Oh, those were the days.



I remember my uncle telling me about the gas wars as well. What era was it 1940's ?

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Message 765939 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 23:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 765938.  

Oh gawd. You're going to make me say it. 1950s.

Wow really in the 1950's I thought it was before that.

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Message 765940 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 23:25:58 UTC - in response to Message 765938.  

Oh gawd. You're going to make me say it. 1950s.


I remember gas wars in the 1960s in Oklahoma.



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Message 765941 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 23:27:52 UTC - in response to Message 765940.  

Oh gawd. You're going to make me say it. 1950s.


I remember gas wars in the 1960s in Oklahoma.




What type of offers did they promote?

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