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Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Win3.11 Ahhhhh yes, the most 'stable' version of windows to date... ;) (But I'm liking Vista so far. I just wish there weren't so many darn settings to fiddle with.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
there's no way I'm going to buy an upgrade just to run it on Vista. I was referring to his "GSP's Money (Accounts), Starfish's Sidekick (PIM), both of which I have used for years on W98SE & XP. Calendar Creator 9" statement. Not Vista. He already upgraded. |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
there's no way I'm going to buy an upgrade just to run it on Vista. It kinda lends to my previous question ....what was the pressing need to go to Vista if now you can;t run applications you enjoyed with your perfectly functional XP? It's interesting how the notion is presented in the sales pitches of Vista "you gotta have it" when in reality, you don't. XP (All editions) support will end on the second Tuesday in April 2009, and extended support (security updates) will end five years later...2014. And I wanted to add that unless you upgrade hardware (Even though most hardware vendors will be supporting XP versions for quite a few years now to stay inline with the lifecycle of XP...)and software packages, there was and IS no need for Vista. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
there's no way I'm going to buy an upgrade just to run it on Vista. Not quite. I have Vista installed on BP6 (Backplane on workstation), only used for when a problem needs to be resolved with a customer's rig with Vista installed. Main everyday usage is XP Pro (32 & 64). Win3.11 Ahhhhh yes, the most 'stable' version of windows to date... ;) Wrong, Win3.11WFG. which was so stable it led MS to work on & introduce NT with NT3.51 |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Safari is hideous on Vista! Come on Apple, surely you can do better than that... ;) (I'd try to speed up my scroll wheel, but I'm too scared to venture into the control panel again.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
Negative. Windows NT is a descendant of OS/2...which was supposed to replace DOS. OS/2 was a join venture between Microsoft and IBM that was being developed in the mid 1980's. A GUI, called the Presentation Manager (PM), was not available with OS/2 until version 1.1, released in 1988. Its API was incompatible with Windows. By the early 1990s, conflicts developed in the Microsoft/IBM relationship. They cooperated with each other in developing their PC operating systems, and had access to each other's code. Microsoft wanted to further develop Windows, while IBM desired for future work to be based on OS/2. In an attempt to resolve this tension, IBM and Microsoft agreed that IBM would develop OS/2 2.0, to replace OS/2 1.3 and Windows 3.0, while Microsoft would develop a new operating system, OS/2 3.0, to later succeed OS/2 2.0. This agreement soon however fell apart, and the Microsoft/IBM relationship was terminated. IBM continued to develop OS/2, while Microsoft changed the name of its (as yet unreleased) OS/2 3.0 to Windows NT. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Apologies, I stand corrected. |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
isn't a BP6 backplane installed on machines like at a call center? PBX? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Don't honestly know. I have 2 backplane boxes installed in workstation,(each one takes up 2 5¼ bays & provides 3 removable HD's). I name all my drives so I know what's on where. This is an earlier photo before upgrade. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
A "BP6" is also a motherboard model from Abit. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
there's no way I'm going to buy an upgrade just to run it on Vista. Those were the days! I pulled out a copy of DOS 3.30 and put it in a virtual machine to play with. Even found some 1.44MB floppies of DOS 5 & Windows 3.1 on the same set of disks (the installation actually says "MS-DOS 5 and Windows upgrade"). I just set up two Windows 98SE workstations for those older games that won't work with Vista x64. Both the g/f and I love Vista and aren't willing to give it up - we'll just put in more machine! |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
It kinda lends to my previous question ....what was the pressing need to go to Vista if now you can;t run applications you enjoyed with your perfectly functional XP? The question shouldn't be "what makes it a must have?". Again, bringing up the past, I remember before Windows 95 came out lots of people saying "what do I need it for?" or "there's no pressing need to upgrade at this time". Without even trying, one can use the same logic toward just about anything. That's the freedom of choice you have as a consumer. It all depends on if you see value in what you are purchasing. As I stated earlier in the thread, for me, I found a few features in Vista that are "must haves" such as the security features and SuperFetch. And yes, I also like the eye candy (but its not the sole reason I bought Vista). Everyone's mileage will vary, of course. What I value you could easily find trivial and vice versa. The bigger question is: "why does it matter"? The whole world operates differently and we all have a right to be different. If you find no value in upgrading to Vista, I respect that. If others find value in Vista, that should be respected as well, even if you disagree or cannot see the reasons. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
I also like the eye candy (but its not the sole reason I bought Vista). The eye candy was the #1 reason why I bought Vista, the new features were just a bonus... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... As I stated earlier in the thread, for me, I found a few features in Vista that are "must haves" such as the security features and SuperFetch. And yes, I also like the eye candy (but its not the sole reason I bought Vista). Those were some of the features that brought me over to Linux. The 'must have' for me was for a development requirement (for true preemptive multitasking, and that a process crash was not to bring the whole machine down). Getting out of the MS-virus silliness was a very good bonus and a relief. And then you look back and wonder why oh why you didn't change sooner! So, what's the 'killer consideration' for Vista? Or is it just the name and assumed familarity? Happy crunchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
It kinda lends to my previous question ....what was the pressing need to go to Vista if now you can;t run applications you enjoyed with your perfectly functional XP? Who said I didn't have any respect for them? I am only stating my opinion, as you are. |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
Yup, I was referring to a BP6 'backplane". Incidently, that ABIT BP6 motherboard was wonderful and easy to overclock. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
It kinda lends to my previous question ....what was the pressing need to go to Vista if now you can;t run applications you enjoyed with your perfectly functional XP? My apologies to you Michael, I didn't mean to imply you didn't have respect. The point I was trying to make was that even though you don't like Vista, calling people who chose to upgrade "sheeple" could be considered disrespectful. But at least you conduct yourself well and I thank you for that. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
So, what's the 'killer consideration' for Vista? Or is it just the name and assumed familarity? As annoying as it can be: UAC, IE7 protected mode, SuperFetch, reduced user privileges (even for "Admin" account), DirectX 10 and Aero Glass. All arguments of *nix being virus free, for those of us that prefer Windows, features like UAC, IE7 protected mode and the reduced user privileges can be a godsend when dealing with other people's machines, or even as a great line of defense for your own system. SuperFetch, DirectX 10 and Aero Glass are all extra goodies that pushed me over into buying Vista on top of the reasons mentioned above. |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
All arguments of *nix being virus free, for those of us that prefer Windows I have always used clamxav on osx, not that I ever needed it, but ya never know... I was gonna use clamwin on vista, but then I remembered why I use a mac, and went with avast!... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Safari is hideous on Vista! . . . then I opened iTunes and Quick Time Player and realized: The strict 'Human Interface Guidelines' don't apply to mac apps on PCs... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
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