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Message 745379 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 8:36:13 UTC

I have seen server racks with upwards of 30 servers with 2 processors each, for sale on Ebay. Each server has 2 Dual Core processors. That would be equivelent to 120 processors.

The question is, does this kind of system function well with BOINC? The one I was looking at had Opteron processors.
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Message 745399 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 11:57:23 UTC

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).
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Message 745401 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 12:03:23 UTC - in response to Message 745399.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.
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Message 745425 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 14:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 745401.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.



30 servers x ??? watts each = big electrical bills. Better to spend the $475 on a q6600 and get more RAC per watt.
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Message 745441 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 15:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 745401.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.
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Message 745485 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 19:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 745441.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?
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Message 745489 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 19:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 745485.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?

See this thread.
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Message 745693 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 2:07:42 UTC

Well, just for your info, you could peek at this host of mine:

HP DL 365 G1@2.6 Ghz

Which is a Dual Processer/Dual Core Opteron rack mount server. Not the best of RAC's (~2300), but I'd have to suggest it's respectable. It sure is beating my old P4 Intel Laptop. :-)

Just in case it happens to be a similar model server to the ones you found...
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Message 745698 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 2:32:10 UTC

I have 5 1RU servers in my rack - they work great and don't take a lot of room!
(I like the DL360 G5, as they are not that loud)
Each of the DL360s have dual quad core E5335s Xeon -so they are not to bad on RAC

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Message 745772 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 13:09:00 UTC - in response to Message 745485.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?


You dont want a Q6600 processor since that one is consuming a lot of power with the old CPU arcitecture. Get a Q9300 (45nm) instead. In Sweden that processor costs around 375$. You will save money both on power consumption and cooling expenses.
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Message 745814 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 16:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 745772.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?


You dont want a Q6600 processor since that one is consuming a lot of power with the old CPU arcitecture. Get a Q9300 (45nm) instead. In Sweden that processor costs around 375$. You will save money both on power consumption and cooling expenses.

By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.
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Message 745838 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 21:07:50 UTC - in response to Message 745814.  

snipped......
By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.

The Intel mobile cpu's Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor are listed at 35 or 34 Watts. And Aopen and Jetway both produce motherboards, for mobile cpu's.
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Message 745880 - Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 22:55:26 UTC - in response to Message 745838.  

snipped......
By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.

The Intel mobile cpu's Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor are listed at 35 or 34 Watts. And Aopen and Jetway both produce motherboards, for mobile cpu's.

Power is definitely an issue. If we go over 30KWh/day those extra kilowatts are $0.33.

It's something I watch.

Thanks for the reference.
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Message 745900 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 0:05:26 UTC - in response to Message 745880.  

snipped......
By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.

The Intel mobile cpu's Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor are listed at 35 or 34 Watts. And Aopen and Jetway both produce motherboards, for mobile cpu's.

Power is definitely an issue. If we go over 30KWh/day those extra kilowatts are $0.33.

It's something I watch.

Thanks for the reference.

Ned,
using AOpen's mainboard the system stays below 50 watts (T9300, one 3.5 HDD, DVD-burner, 1000rpm casefan, XP32) while crunching seti 24/7.
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Message 745973 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 4:32:52 UTC - in response to Message 745900.  

snipped......
By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.

The Intel mobile cpu's Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor are listed at 35 or 34 Watts. And Aopen and Jetway both produce motherboards, for mobile cpu's.

Power is definitely an issue. If we go over 30KWh/day those extra kilowatts are $0.33.

It's something I watch.

Thanks for the reference.

Ned,
using AOpen's mainboard the system stays below 50 watts (T9300, one 3.5 HDD, DVD-burner, 1000rpm casefan, XP32) while crunching seti 24/7.

... and I can get along just fine without the DVD drive (using a USB CD/DVD as needed). Which motherboard are you using?
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Message 746072 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 12:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 745973.  


Ned,
using AOpen's mainboard the system stays below 50 watts (T9300, one 3.5 HDD, DVD-burner, 1000rpm casefan, XP32) while crunching seti 24/7.

... and I can get along just fine without the DVD drive (using a USB CD/DVD as needed). Which motherboard are you using?

i965GMT-LA, and you could use a 2.5 HDD or another storage possibilty also to save some more watts.
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Message 746086 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 13:19:04 UTC - in response to Message 745814.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?


You dont want a Q6600 processor since that one is consuming a lot of power with the old CPU arcitecture. Get a Q9300 (45nm) instead. In Sweden that processor costs around 375$. You will save money both on power consumption and cooling expenses.

By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.


The old B3 stepping Q6600 is 105w. The newer G0 stepping is 95w. You would be hard pressed to find a retail B3, except on eBay.

As far as price, Newegg has open box Q6600s for $190 right now, and the retail version is $220. Q9300s are going for $285 (I snagged one off eBay for $225 yesterday...WooHooo!!).
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Message 746108 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 15:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 746086.  

Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL).


Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask.

Just to clarify:

If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers.


Whats a good price for a q6600 system?


You dont want a Q6600 processor since that one is consuming a lot of power with the old CPU arcitecture. Get a Q9300 (45nm) instead. In Sweden that processor costs around 375$. You will save money both on power consumption and cooling expenses.

By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w.


The old B3 stepping Q6600 is 105w. The newer G0 stepping is 95w. You would be hard pressed to find a retail B3, except on eBay.

As far as price, Newegg has open box Q6600s for $190 right now, and the retail version is $220. Q9300s are going for $285 (I snagged one off eBay for $225 yesterday...WooHooo!!).

The Q9450 I have just built for my son on a NVidia chip mother board, gaming machine, can report the cpu power, his is at 76watts crunching four Seti units.

Don't forget Intel quotes max expected power, at stock speed, AMD quote average power.
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Message 746131 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 16:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 746072.  

i965GMT-LA, and you could use a 2.5 HDD or another storage possibilty also to save some more watts.

Or better, use FLASH storage.

Just take care that your OS doesn't obliterate it with lots of log files updates or whatever.

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Message 746147 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 17:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 746108.  
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The old B3 stepping Q6600 is 105w. The newer G0 stepping is 95w. You would be hard pressed to find a retail B3, except on eBay.

As far as price, Newegg has open box Q6600s for $190 right now, and the retail version is $220. Q9300s are going for $285 (I snagged one off eBay for $225 yesterday...WooHooo!!).

The Q9450 I have just built for my son on a NVidia chip mother board, gaming machine, can report the cpu power, his is at 76watts crunching four Seti units.

Don't forget Intel quotes max expected power, at stock speed, AMD quote average power.

Since they quote "Thermal Design Power" what they're really talking about is how much heatsink you need in the worst case.

It's the number we have, so until you measure, it's the number we use.

The difference between 75 watts and 34 watts is right at 1 KWH/day. It's $10/month on the top-tier in our rate structure, and I'm trying hard to stay in the $0.20 power and out of the $0.33 power.

We almost had a rate-change last year that would have taken us to $0.49/KWH, but got a last minute reprieve.
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