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Do racked server systems work well with BOINC?
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Sniper ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 310 Credit: 2,831,142 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have seen server racks with upwards of 30 servers with 2 processors each, for sale on Ebay. Each server has 2 Dual Core processors. That would be equivelent to 120 processors. The question is, does this kind of system function well with BOINC? The one I was looking at had Opteron processors. ![]() |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). |
Sniper ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 310 Credit: 2,831,142 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). Thanks..... I saw one that was going for like $475 for each 2 cpu server... Just thought I would ask. ![]() |
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Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). 30 servers x ??? watts each = big electrical bills. Better to spend the $475 on a q6600 and get more RAC per watt. Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). Just to clarify: If you have 30 servers, they'll work great as 30 individual crunchers. |
Sniper ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 310 Credit: 2,831,142 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). Whats a good price for a q6600 system? ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). See this thread. |
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Well, just for your info, you could peek at this host of mine: HP DL 365 G1@2.6 Ghz Which is a Dual Processer/Dual Core Opteron rack mount server. Not the best of RAC's (~2300), but I'd have to suggest it's respectable. It sure is beating my old P4 Intel Laptop. :-) Just in case it happens to be a similar model server to the ones you found... |
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I have 5 1RU servers in my rack - they work great and don't take a lot of room! (I like the DL360 G5, as they are not that loud) Each of the DL360s have dual quad core E5335s Xeon -so they are not to bad on RAC ![]() |
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Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). You dont want a Q6600 processor since that one is consuming a lot of power with the old CPU arcitecture. Get a Q9300 (45nm) instead. In Sweden that processor costs around 375$. You will save money both on power consumption and cooling expenses. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). By 10% (Q6600 is 105w, Q9300 is 95w). I'm looking for processors under 50w. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19713 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
snipped...... The Intel mobile cpu's Intel® Core™2 Duo Mobile Processor are listed at 35 or 34 Watts. And Aopen and Jetway both produce motherboards, for mobile cpu's. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
snipped...... Power is definitely an issue. If we go over 30KWh/day those extra kilowatts are $0.33. It's something I watch. Thanks for the reference. |
Urs Echternacht ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 692 Credit: 135,197,781 RAC: 211 ![]() ![]() |
snipped...... Ned, using AOpen's mainboard the system stays below 50 watts (T9300, one 3.5 HDD, DVD-burner, 1000rpm casefan, XP32) while crunching seti 24/7. _\|/_ U r s |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
snipped...... ... and I can get along just fine without the DVD drive (using a USB CD/DVD as needed). Which motherboard are you using? |
Urs Echternacht ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 692 Credit: 135,197,781 RAC: 211 ![]() ![]() |
i965GMT-LA, and you could use a 2.5 HDD or another storage possibilty also to save some more watts. _\|/_ U r s |
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Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). The old B3 stepping Q6600 is 105w. The newer G0 stepping is 95w. You would be hard pressed to find a retail B3, except on eBay. As far as price, Newegg has open box Q6600s for $190 right now, and the retail version is $220. Q9300s are going for $285 (I snagged one off eBay for $225 yesterday...WooHooo!!). Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19713 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Individually, they work great. If you mean they are clustered together, such as a Beowulf cluster, then no, it doesn't work with BOINC unless you manufacture your own client that supports your cluster (and good luck with that! LOL). The Q9450 I have just built for my son on a NVidia chip mother board, gaming machine, can report the cpu power, his is at 76watts crunching four Seti units. Don't forget Intel quotes max expected power, at stock speed, AMD quote average power. |
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i965GMT-LA, and you could use a 2.5 HDD or another storage possibilty also to save some more watts. Or better, use FLASH storage. Just take care that your OS doesn't obliterate it with lots of log files updates or whatever. Happy crunchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Since they quote "Thermal Design Power" what they're really talking about is how much heatsink you need in the worst case. It's the number we have, so until you measure, it's the number we use. The difference between 75 watts and 34 watts is right at 1 KWH/day. It's $10/month on the top-tier in our rate structure, and I'm trying hard to stay in the $0.20 power and out of the $0.33 power. We almost had a rate-change last year that would have taken us to $0.49/KWH, but got a last minute reprieve. |
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