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Message 747478 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 14:43:42 UTC

No problems getting there from Northwest Arizona.

Frontier is my ISP.

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Message 747479 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 14:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 747478.  

No problems getting there from Northwest Arizona.

Frontier is my ISP.

Or from Southern California in the High Desert.

Verizon is My ISP.
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Message 747503 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 15:49:27 UTC

Verizon is also my ISP but I'm still unable to reach Lunatics from South-Eastern Pennsylvania. I hit a brick wall after going through 64.209.102.222. This seems to be the pattern.

@Joker, do you have trouble receiving email from Lunatics? Verizon seems to block them for me.
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Message 747531 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 17:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 747503.  

Verizon is also my ISP but I'm still unable to reach Lunatics from South-Eastern Pennsylvania. I hit a brick wall after going through 64.209.102.222. This seems to be the pattern.

@Joker, do you have trouble receiving email from Lunatics? Verizon seems to block them for me.

No idea really, As I haven't logged into lunatics in a long time, Besides I don't use Verizons email at all(Hint: It ain't yahoo either). :D
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Message 747540 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 17:15:28 UTC

No problems at all here.....
I have DSL service from AT&T............
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Message 747547 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 17:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 747540.  

No problems at all here.....
I have DSL service from AT&T............

Ah yes, The Death Star has You, No empire out here in the outer reaches. ;)
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Message 747558 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 18:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 747531.  

Verizon is also my ISP but I'm still unable to reach Lunatics from South-Eastern Pennsylvania. I hit a brick wall after going through 64.209.102.222. This seems to be the pattern.

@Joker, do you have trouble receiving email from Lunatics? Verizon seems to block them for me.

No idea really, As I haven't logged into lunatics in a long time, Besides I don't use Verizons email at all(Hint: It ain't yahoo either). :D

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Message 747565 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 18:35:10 UTC

If Mark has no problems with AT&T DSL, my problem must be with Road Runner. I still get hung up on the same address.


Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 [192.168.0.100]
1 192.168.0.1
2 76.51.128.1
3 gig-5-0.gnbywi2-rtr1.new.rr.com [24.164.241.17]
4 so0-1-1.cgchill3-rtr1.kc.rr.com [24.94.160.29]
5 ae-5-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.112]
6 ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
7 66.109.9.202
8 64.209.102.222<--------This one here
9 * * *
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Message 747665 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:26:52 UTC
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If Mark has no problems with AT&T DSL, my problem must be with Road Runner. I still get hung up on the same address.

Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 [192.168.0.100]
1 192.168.0.1
2 76.51.128.1
3 gig-5-0.gnbywi2-rtr1.new.rr.com [24.164.241.17]
4 so0-1-1.cgchill3-rtr1.kc.rr.com [24.94.160.29]
5 ae-5-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.112]
6 ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
7 66.109.9.202
8 64.209.102.222<--------This one here
9 * * *

Can You get to My website that's in My sig John?
Here's My trace of the lunatics website from Verizon territory:
Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    26 ms    27 ms    26 ms  L100.DSL-35.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [71.105.32.1]
  2    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  G9-0-2035.LCR-10.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.136.16]
  3    29 ms    28 ms    32 ms  P15-3.LCR-01.TAMPFL.verizon-gni.net [130.81.28.74]
  4    31 ms    30 ms    32 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XT2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.157]
  5    30 ms    34 ms    30 ms  0.so-6-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.69]
  6    98 ms    33 ms    32 ms  0.so-7-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.153]
  7     *       33 ms    39 ms  204.255.169.70
  8    94 ms    93 ms    93 ms  cr2-pos-0-0-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net [204.70.192.69]
  9    96 ms    96 ms    96 ms  msr1-te-0-0-0-0.atlantapaix.savvis.net [204.70.200.1]
 10    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  204.70.203.94
 11    92 ms    92 ms    93 ms  216.89.82.78
 12    92 ms    93 ms    94 ms  xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.176.5]
 13    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.178.58]
 14    93 ms    93 ms    94 ms  beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206.132.254.42]

Trace complete.

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Message 747667 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 747665.  

Here's My trace of the lunatics website from Verizon territory:
Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    26 ms    27 ms    26 ms  L100.DSL-35.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [71.105.32.1]
  2    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  G9-0-2035.LCR-10.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.136.16]
  3    29 ms    28 ms    32 ms  P15-3.LCR-01.TAMPFL.verizon-gni.net [130.81.28.74]
  4    31 ms    30 ms    32 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XT2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.157]
  5    30 ms    34 ms    30 ms  0.so-6-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.69]
  6    98 ms    33 ms    32 ms  0.so-7-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.153]
  7     *       33 ms    39 ms  204.255.169.70
  8    94 ms    93 ms    93 ms  cr2-pos-0-0-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net [204.70.192.69]
  9    96 ms    96 ms    96 ms  msr1-te-0-0-0-0.atlantapaix.savvis.net [204.70.200.1]
 10    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  204.70.203.94
 11    92 ms    92 ms    93 ms  216.89.82.78
 12    92 ms    93 ms    94 ms  xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.176.5]
 13    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.178.58]
 14    93 ms    93 ms    94 ms  beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206.132.254.42]

Trace complete.


What would I type in my RUN box to do a trace from here?

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Message 747669 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:30:28 UTC - in response to Message 747667.  
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Here's My trace of the lunatics website from Verizon territory:
Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    26 ms    27 ms    26 ms  L100.DSL-35.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [71.105.32.1]
  2    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  G9-0-2035.LCR-10.LSANCA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.136.16]
  3    29 ms    28 ms    32 ms  P15-3.LCR-01.TAMPFL.verizon-gni.net [130.81.28.74]
  4    31 ms    30 ms    32 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XT2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.157]
  5    30 ms    34 ms    30 ms  0.so-6-3-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.69]
  6    98 ms    33 ms    32 ms  0.so-7-0-0.BR1.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.153]
  7     *       33 ms    39 ms  204.255.169.70
  8    94 ms    93 ms    93 ms  cr2-pos-0-0-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net [204.70.192.69]
  9    96 ms    96 ms    96 ms  msr1-te-0-0-0-0.atlantapaix.savvis.net [204.70.200.1]
 10    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  204.70.203.94
 11    92 ms    92 ms    93 ms  216.89.82.78
 12    92 ms    93 ms    94 ms  xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.176.5]
 13    93 ms    93 ms    93 ms  xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.178.58]
 14    93 ms    93 ms    94 ms  beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206.132.254.42]

Trace complete.


What would I type in my RUN box to do a trace from here?

You want the command prompt then type the following below(Click on Start/All Programs/Accessories/ to find the Command Prompt):

tracert lunatics.kwsn.net
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Message 747671 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:33:58 UTC - in response to Message 747669.  

What would I type in my RUN box to do a trace from here?

tracert lunatics.kwsn.net

Type

cmd
in the run box, to get a command window. Then type what he said, at the command prompt.

Otherwise the output disappears before you get a chance to read it.
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Message 747673 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:35:23 UTC - in response to Message 747671.  

What would I type in my RUN box to do a trace from here?

tracert lunatics.kwsn.net

Type

cmd
in the run box, to get a command window. Then type what he said, at the command prompt.

Otherwise the output disappears before you get a chance to read it.

Thanks, I have a shortcut in the Main Start menu for the Command Prompt.
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Message 747682 - Posted: 3 May 2008, 23:48:16 UTC

I am able to access the site
Location: Suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin (most speed test sites even say my location is Milwaukee!)
ISP: SBC (now ATT)
Traceroute:
traceroute to lunatics.kwsn.net (206.132.254.42) ,30 hops max,40 byte packet
1 69.210.111.254 (69.210.111.254) 10. 0 ms <10.0 ms <10.0 ms
2 65.43.19.226 (65.43.19.226) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms
3 151.164.190.98 (151.164.190.98) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms <10.0 ms
4 151.164.42.149 (151.164.42.149) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms
5 151.164.251.90 (151.164.251.90) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms
6 204.70.196.21 (204.70.196.21) 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms 10. 0 ms
7 204.70.195.113 (204.70.195.113) 20. 0 ms * 10. 0 ms
8 204.70.192.61 (204.70.192.61) 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
9 204.70.200.1 (204.70.200.1) 50. 0 ms 50. 0 ms 50. 0 ms
10 204.70.203.98 (204.70.203.98) 50. 0 ms 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
11 216.89.82.78 (216.89.82.78) 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
12 66.187.176.5 (66.187.176.5) 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
13 66.187.178.58 (66.187.178.58) 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
14 206.132.254.42 (206.132.254.42) 40. 0 ms 50. 0 ms 40. 0 ms
Traceroute Complete.

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Message 747729 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 1:28:18 UTC - in response to Message 747665.  

If Mark has no problems with AT&T DSL, my problem must be with Road Runner. I still get hung up on the same address.

Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 [192.168.0.100]
1 192.168.0.1
2 76.51.128.1
3 gig-5-0.gnbywi2-rtr1.new.rr.com [24.164.241.17]
4 so0-1-1.cgchill3-rtr1.kc.rr.com [24.94.160.29]
5 ae-5-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.112]
6 ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
7 66.109.9.202
8 64.209.102.222<--------This one here
9 * * *
Can You get to My website that's in My sig John?


Yes, I can, but still can't get to any part of the lunatics of kwsn site.
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Message 747746 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 2:49:37 UTC

traceroute to lunatics.kwsn.net (206.132.254.42), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.254.254 (192.168.254.254) 14.444 ms * *
2 74-47-96-1.dr02.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net (74.47.96.1) 30.031 ms 11.754 ms 14.854 ms
3 74.40.5.1 (74.40.5.1) 23.583 ms * *
4 * so-0-0-0--0.cr02.plal.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.4.9) 57.856 ms 42.187 ms
5 so-7-0-0--0.br01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.170) 43.244 ms 41.583 ms 47.854 ms
6 208.49.158.141 (208.49.158.141) 42.864 ms 42.789 ms 42.311 ms
7 64.209.99.54 (64.209.99.54) 102.851 ms * 101.399 ms
8 xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net (66.187.176.5) 103.986 ms 100.114 ms 104.124 ms
9 xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net (66.187.178.58) 101.963 ms 101.261 ms 110.885 ms
10 beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net (206.132.254.42) 102.778 ms 105.284 ms 109.238 ms

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Message 747747 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 2:54:16 UTC - in response to Message 747729.  

If Mark has no problems with AT&T DSL, my problem must be with Road Runner. I still get hung up on the same address.

Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 [192.168.0.100]
1 192.168.0.1
2 76.51.128.1
3 gig-5-0.gnbywi2-rtr1.new.rr.com [24.164.241.17]
4 so0-1-1.cgchill3-rtr1.kc.rr.com [24.94.160.29]
5 ae-5-0.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.112]
6 ae-1-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.155]
7 66.109.9.202
8 64.209.102.222<--------This one here
9 * * *
Can You get to My website that's in My sig John?


Yes, I can, but still can't get to any part of the lunatics of kwsn site.

If You explore the website You may see something interesting there.
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Message 747754 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 3:10:01 UTC

It's not a permanent solution, but if you really need your lunatics fix, you might try using Tor. http://www.torproject.org/ It'll be slow, but it should get you around the bad route.
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Message 747764 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:00:36 UTC

Well my bet is still on Global Crossing being at fault. It looks like everyone who CAN get to the site does not go through any Global Crossing IPs. There is nothing you can do about this. It just depends on who your ISP peers with and how routes are decided. Proxies or tor will be the only way to get to lunatics until GC notices and fixes their problem. I tried sending them an email but of course they only read email that is part of an existing helpdesk ticket so that went nowhere.
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Message 747772 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:15:51 UTC - in response to Message 747764.  

Well my bet is still on Global Crossing being at fault. It looks like everyone who CAN get to the site does not go through any Global Crossing IPs. There is nothing you can do about this. It just depends on who your ISP peers with and how routes are decided. Proxies or tor will be the only way to get to lunatics until GC notices and fixes their problem. I tried sending them an email but of course they only read email that is part of an existing helpdesk ticket so that went nowhere.

I didn't know how to copy my trace but from Seattle I did not go thru Global Crossing.
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