Possible forum bug

Author	Message
John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0	Message 739293 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 8:03:12 UTC Eeek There goes another 276 Soon I will need to put on my deep gruff Desperate Dan, tough guy, voice. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues ID: 739293 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 739335 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 10:58:14 UTC 'Tis the GÃƒÂ¶tterdÃƒÂ¤mmerung of the Nerds!!! I've left off counting... Onwards and Upwards!!! UP THE FUNSTERS!!!! ID: 739335 ·

John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0	Message 739368 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 13:33:55 UTC - in response to Message 739327. I am very pleased indeed to report that I have now lost 669 posts. Shame I was forced to moan about it before they went but there you go. Tell you what John, we'll have a side wager on this. Whoever has the least posts left at the end of the week buys the beer. At your rate you're buying he he! Yes! I will soon be catching down to you, and I stamp says I now have 9,014 left. Looks like I will need to get the moths out of my wallet! It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues ID: 739368 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 739381 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 14:28:48 UTC . . . the Past has become merely a memory BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 739381 ·

Blurf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8961 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0	Message 739500 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 20:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 738306. If the project needs a professional Systems Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Data Base Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Physical Data Base Administrator, get one. That's your watch, your lookout, and your responsibility. Sorry for the late quote...however Beets, the project can't afford a Professional Data Base Administrator. It all comes down to resources. ID: 739500 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 739540 - Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 22:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 739500. If the project needs a professional Systems Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Data Base Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Physical Data Base Administrator, get one. That's your watch, your lookout, and your responsibility. Sorry for the late quote...however Beets, the project can't afford a Professional Data Base Administrator. it all comes down to resources. yep - iT does at that - so since we've been doing our best on the Donation front ? What would iT take $$ wise to get a 'Professional Data Base Administrator' working @ Berkeley . . . BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 739540 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 739614 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 1:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 739540. Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 1:25:55 UTC If the project needs a professional Systems Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Data Base Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Physical Data Base Administrator, get one. That's your watch, your lookout, and your responsibility. Sorry for the late quote...however Beets, the project can't afford a Professional Data Base Administrator. it all comes down to resources. yep - iT does at that - so since we've been doing our best on the Donation front ? What would iT take $$ wise to get a 'Professional Data Base Administrator' working @ Berkeley . . . What?! With all the resources and experts that UC Berkeley has, no such person could be found? Comeon! There must be more to it than mere money involved. (imho) ID: 739614 ·

Blurf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8961 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0	Message 739620 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 1:27:31 UTC Richard is correct, Beets. Any new person has to be paid out of Seti's budget. It's another issue of how to offer the support the project needs. ID: 739620 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 739621 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 1:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 739540. Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 1:32:55 UTC If the project needs a professional Systems Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Data Base Administrator, get one. If the project needs a professional Physical Data Base Administrator, get one. That's your watch, your lookout, and your responsibility. Sorry for the late quote...however Beets, the project can't afford a Professional Data Base Administrator. it all comes down to resources. yep - iT does at that - so since we've been doing our best on the Donation front ? What would iT take $$ wise to get a 'Professional Data Base Administrator' working @ Berkeley . . . You raise an interesting point there, Richard. :]] If there were a commitment from Dr. David Anderson to use the donations during a certain timeframe (say, for one given month) for just that purpose, it might well be a big selling point for more donations. ID: 739621 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 739622 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 1:35:17 UTC - in response to Message 739620. Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 1:57:01 UTC Richard is correct, Beets. Any new person has to be paid out of Seti's budget. It's another issue of how to offer the support the project needs. Um, I may be wrong Blurf, but I think Richard was asking for a rough estimate of what it would cost to put the database in order. But don't let me put words in your mouth, Richard. If I'm wrong, just say so. :]] P.S. Nice to see you back on the forums, Blurf! I hope you'll be feeling Tip-Top soon. :]] ID: 739622 ·

Jim_S Send message Joined: 23 Feb 00 Posts: 4705 Credit: 64,560,357 RAC: 31	Message 739625 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 1:41:36 UTC Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 1:44:13 UTC I just noticed that I've lost 300+ posts. I'm at 2204 and I was over 2500. WTF....Over? ;-) I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) ID: 739625 ·

Jim_S Send message Joined: 23 Feb 00 Posts: 4705 Credit: 64,560,357 RAC: 31	Message 739663 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 3:28:36 UTC Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 3:29:15 UTC Are there any last year Computer science students studying to be a Data Base Administrator at Berkeley who would be willing to help? I seem to remember reading in some thread in the past where some of the Students there helped in the Lab.? I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) ID: 739663 ·

AndyW Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18	Message 739718 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 7:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 739621. If there were a commitment from Dr. David Anderson to use the donations during a certain timeframe (say, for one given month) for just that purpose, it might well be a big selling point for more donations. Playing Devils Advocate as I have no idea how the funding currently balances over the year... What about Months where they don't raise enough donations to pay the bandwidth bills / staff salaries? Do they just pull the plug because of the spending gap that month? The donations pot has to be just that, IMO. A "pot" that can be drawn upon as and when the need arises. If something breaks it has to be fixed straight away, not next month when the budget allows. Another suggestion that hasn't been mentioned yet...Why not let someone else manage the forum side of things here? Take the onus off SETI to maintain a forum, but let SETI Administer it and keep control. Web hosting isn't particularly expensive nowadays and a Forum of this size would be quiet manageable as a seperate entity and would stop hogging SETIs resources. ID: 739718 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 739719 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 7:01:31 UTC <--- I found your bug... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 739719 ·

AndyW Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18	Message 739720 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 7:02:20 UTC You should be careful. People pay good money to exterminate bugs. ID: 739720 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 739737 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 8:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 739720. You should be careful. People pay good money to exterminate bugs. Yes, I know... But lucky for me, most people are too incompetent to get the job done... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 739737 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 739787 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 12:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 739540. [quote] <snip> Sorry for the late quote...however Beets, the project can't afford a Professional Data Base Administrator. it all comes down to resources. yep - iT does at that - so since we've been doing our best on the Donation front ? What would iT take $$ wise to get a 'Professional Data Base Administrator' working @ Berkeley . . . < so - HOW Much WOULD iT Cost - Regardless of Where We get Said Money's . . . ? Remember: Where there's a Will - There's a Way . . . Note: How Much TIME would that Said Individual have to put in @ Berkeley - AND - could that Said Individual Accomplish Said 'objectives' while being a Volunteer and being someplace else 'Outside' of Physically being there . . . i have given Dr. Korpela the name of an Individual that would 'Volunteer' his Time for the Project . . . BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 739787 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 740078 - Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 22:03:54 UTC - in response to Message 739719. Last modified: 16 Apr 2008, 22:06:20 UTC ... I found your bug... ;) Jeffrey, the cutest ant around here. My favorite ant here. ;-D And I am well below 10,000 posts now... [edit] Actually I am well below 9,000 posts... "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 740078 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 740231 - Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 1:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 740078. Jeffrey, the cutest ant around here. My favorite ant here. You mean there are others? Other ants... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 740231 ·

Toby Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 1005 Credit: 6,366,949 RAC: 0	Message 740726 - Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 2:20:34 UTC Well it wasn't easy but after standing on my head and waving my feet in his face I was able to get Eric's attention for long enough to get a brief answer. It seems they wrote a script that was supposed to quickly go back and purge some old content from the database. Unfortunately the "quickly" part didn't work out (deleting is one of the slowest database operations) so it has turned out to be a slow (days instead of hours) process that I believe is still ongoing. This purge is affecting post counts because of an apparent bug in the BOINC forum code. Go figure. Guess we'll just have to rebuild our post count (yes, I lost a few as well) with an extra round of TLPTPW! Also, a round of PGGBs on me for your troubles! A member of The Knights Who Say NI! For rankings, history graphs and more, check out: My BOINC stats site ID: 740726 ·

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