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Matt Lebofsky Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1444 Credit: 957,058 RAC: 0 |
We thought we had the hardware problem with the workunit download server diagnosed, but looks like we were wrong. False positive. The good news is that the kind folks who donated the thing have another ready to ship. But until we get it, that probably means potential random resets all weekend. Jeff just put an /etc/rc script in place so that upon reset/reboot there's a chance it'll be operational, meaning short glitches instead of multi-hour outages. That's the hope anyway. We might actually test that later today (if it doesn't reset itself on its own). There was discussion about how to implement a second workunit storage server so we don't have this single point of failure anymore. Not as easy as it sounds. - Matt -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for the update. Back tracking is a pain, and implementing a solution is never easy when the reason appeared to have been identified. Keep your chin up, as it will sort out eventually It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
AndyW Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18 |
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gomeyer Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 488 Credit: 50,370,425 RAC: 0 |
Matt, When you get a chance could you kick BETA? Thanks again for the hard work! |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Matt, When you get a chance could you kick BETA? Thanks again for the hard work! And the download server, if the current slowdown isn't a deliberate test/repair. |
Matt Lebofsky Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1444 Credit: 957,058 RAC: 0 |
Don't expect much joy for the next 10 hours in beta or the public project - the latest reset triggered a full RAID resync, which will take at least that long. In theory we could run the project while the devices sync up, but due to the extra I/O that will take about two weeks to complete. Sigh. - Matt -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
. . . Thanks for Posting Matt - Nice goin' @ Berkeley > things are workin' better here w/ my boxes @ least ;O < thought You might like a 'slight' distraction; . . . Thinking Thursday: Magic and Ethics
edit: nice edit Matt ;) BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
gomeyer Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 488 Credit: 50,370,425 RAC: 0 |
Don't expect much joy for the next 10 hours in beta or the public project - the latest reset triggered a full RAID resync, which will take at least that long. In theory we could run the project while the devices sync up, but due to the extra I/O that will take about two weeks to complete. Sigh. C'est la vie . . . |
Savant Send message Joined: 13 Mar 08 Posts: 12 Credit: 250,927 RAC: 0 |
You do your best and we'll do ours (or is that hours? I do mine with recycled electrons to keep the cost down. Stan Fockner |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66334 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Don't expect much joy for the next 10 hours in beta or the public project - the latest reset triggered a full RAID resync, which will take at least that long. In theory we could run the project while the devices sync up, but due to the extra I/O that will take about two weeks to complete. Sigh. Well 10 hours is better than 336 hours(2 weeks). :D Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
It's at times like these I wonder if it would be better to scale back the project, fix/perfect the issues, and then restart the growth cycle. Not doing so seems like a huge psycho-strain by everyone and a source of volunteer-distress. Another solution would be to rally the user base so that at a given UTC time we all chug 20oz of our individually favorite local brew together, as a team. That may lead to the only real manifestation of global warming, and concurrently may be the only true relief of our user/volunteer angst. I sugeest 1400UTC on Friday, April 11, but am open to alternative times and dates. (Obviously, I'm willing to risk the short term global water shortage when 20m later we all process our beer down the toilet. Life is not worth living unless you risk a bit.) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
It's at times like these I wonder if it would be better to scale back the project, fix/perfect the issues, and then restart the growth cycle. Not doing so seems like a huge psycho-strain by everyone and a source of volunteer-distress. I won't argue against beer drinking, although 1400UTC is a little early here. I may run out of work for the first time in years, which is saying something since I usually don't carry much of a cache. Then again, I might not run out of work. So, just in case, I've reattached to LHC, since they seem to have work, and I'll still be here tomorrow when the download server will likely be back up. |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
In keeping with the current theme (beer drinking not excluded) I have the perfect title for tomorrow's thread. (Trying Tuesday, Working Wednesday, Think again Thursday)..... ooops... never mind.... the censor won't let me post my thread title suggestion. ;) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
In keeping with the current theme (beer drinking not excluded) I have the perfect title for tomorrow's thread. Think Battlestar Galactica.... |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Could always do Fukitol Friday. For those that don't know what that is, I can provide a link to the infomercial if you PM me. ;-) |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Could always do Fukitol Friday. For those that don't know what that is, I can provide a link to the infomercial if you PM me. ;-) BINGO! |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
In keeping with the current theme (beer drinking not excluded) I have the perfect title for tomorrow's thread. Your thought was easy to follow and appreciated by me and its great to start the day with a good giggle - although you guys may think differently! I suppose I'll just have to be patient; the odd thing is one of my PCs got more work, only a few minutes before the other tried to get more (and failed). Thats Life, I suppose. Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
MarkJ Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 1139 Credit: 80,854,192 RAC: 5 |
Don't expect much joy for the next 10 hours in beta or the public project - the latest reset triggered a full RAID resync, which will take at least that long. In theory we could run the project while the devices sync up, but due to the extra I/O that will take about two weeks to complete. Sigh. I think the next post should have the subject "running on empty" :-) My machines will soon be out of work, even with 2 days extra cache on most of them. JD's Thurston won't know what to do with itself. BOINC blog |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19398 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
You might be spared running on empty, someone got up early and opened the gates. No, that's the end of the "ten hours" that Matt mentioned ;), [add] the d/l server is exhibiting its usual signs of laboring under stress - breaking d/l's in the middle, not starting them, refusing to even consider them, etc.[/add] . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
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