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Message 727816 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 6:18:26 UTC - in response to Message 727730.  

As I mentioned in my prior post on this thread I believe Geek@Play put forth a good question that hopefully a good idea or two will be brought up and implemented... so Ned I respectifully ask you to please stop throttling the ideas put forth with why things won't work or how average guy does this or that. Let the ideas come forth, and Geek and his/her post and the upper SETI food chain figure it out and possible working solutions. I apologize for any offense or trespass, I am an old man blessed by still working around young minds with great ideas almost daily, on advanced military aircraft. I see the benefits of ideas brought out and one or two good ones make all the difference. /salute

Sir,

I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my statements -- and my intent.

Let's take one example. From the original post:
I must add here that if the default settings are used Boinc will run very well. It's when a new user starts to "adjust" his system that most problems occur....

Those aren't my words, those are from Geek@Play. I agree.

It follows from Geek@Play's statement that one solution to "over adjustments" is to simply take off the knobs.

Am I not allowed to suggest that?

You said I can't comment on how the average user behaves.

According to BOINCSTATS, there are 794,000 active SETI@Home participants. I'm pretty sure most of those installed BOINC fairly smoothly -- to put it another way, I'd be surprised if more than 1% needed help.

That doesn't mean it can't be made better.

I would hope that anyone with an idea is ready to defend that idea -- that they have a reasoned response to any questions, and are open to the fact that someone might have a position that they hadn't considered.

You can take it personally when someone questions your ideas, or you can realize that by questioning, they're helping refine your logic.

Can we at least agree that your suggestion, and mine, are both intended to make BOINC better, even if we don't agree on the best way to do it?

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Message 727840 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 13:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 727809.  

One idea that I like that I don't see mentioned in this thread, is set the quota to 1 for new hosts. That way the host can download enough work to get started, but cannot download more until some is returned. The max quota would be the same and would be quickly reached if the host is working properly. However there would still be problems with new participants worried about their queue filling.


When you attach to a project, it automatically downloads 1 second of new work.
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Message 728086 - Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 7:11:46 UTC - in response to Message 727840.  

One idea that I like that I don't see mentioned in this thread, is set the quota to 1 for new hosts. That way the host can download enough work to get started, but cannot download more until some is returned. The max quota would be the same and would be quickly reached if the host is working properly. However there would still be problems with new participants worried about their queue filling.


When you attach to a project, it automatically downloads 1 second of new work.

Yep, but as soon as it is downloaded the client will make a full request.
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Message 729012 - Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 10:19:24 UTC

To complex? for some it may be...http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=54310 This cruncher may need assistance from someone better qualified than myself.
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Message 729083 - Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 15:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 729012.  

To complex? for some it may be...http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=54310 This cruncher may need assistance from someone better qualified than myself.


I've sent him PMs trying to help him. I see he still hasn't fixed the problem.
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Message 729153 - Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 17:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 729083.  

To complex? for some it may be...http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=54310 This cruncher may need assistance from someone better qualified than myself.


I've sent him PMs trying to help him. I see he still hasn't fixed the problem.

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