I kind of took this quick port on in response to a couple challenges by folks here on the MB that made it sound hard... So I thought I'd see what I could do in a day.

If you are speaking of me, my primary objection was/is not the difficulty level, but the requirement of spending a good chunk of change that I don't really have (although you could argue that I perhaps squander just as much away, but I'd still squander, so even further in the hole)...

Beyond that, I do not have the appropriate hardware to test with, and I really didn't appreciate the "do it yourself then" attitude from some folks, as I wasn't the one who has been teasing people with supposed wonders of great code for months, if not years now (not sure how long it's been)...

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Apologies for doubting your assurance and for muddying the waters, here. Benchmarks are sigmificantly more meaningless than I thought!!

I have 2 PC's here that have massively different benchmarks, but one runs at 3033 & the other 3100, same chip, same ram, same board (Almost), almost identical video cards & same OS.

PC1:
Measured floating point speed 3477.79 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 11049.44 million ops/sec


PC2:
Measured floating point speed 2986.16 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 6593.91 million ops/sec

The RAC's are close enough to the same, so I cant see there being such a massive difference, but there is in the benchmarks, just not in reality

The benchmarks are fluff......nothing more.......they have little or no relation to crunching power, as they are too unreliable.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I kind of took this quick port on in response to a couple challenges by folks here on the MB that made it sound hard... So I thought I'd see what I could do in a day.

If you are speaking of me, my primary objection was/is not the difficulty level, but the requirement of spending a good chunk of change that I don't really have (although you could argue that I perhaps squander just as much away, but I'd still squander, so even further in the hole)...

Definitely, not you Brian.... Sorry if I implied so. I will not spend money on development software and persued this attempt with "evaluation" products from Intel & Microsoft. Just give me a JAVA IDE for what I need ;-)

Beyond that, I do not have the appropriate hardware to test with, and I really didn't appreciate the "do it yourself then" attitude from some folks, as I wasn't the one who has been teasing people with supposed wonders of great code for months, if not years now (not sure how long it's been)...

Ditto... Please see PM.

Regards,
JDWhale

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I kind of took this quick port on in response to a couple challenges by folks here on the MB that made it sound hard... So I thought I'd see what I could do in a day.

If you are speaking of me, my primary objection was/is not the difficulty level, but the requirement of spending a good chunk of change that I don't really have (although you could argue that I perhaps squander just as much away, but I'd still squander, so even further in the hole)...

Definitely, not you Brian.... Sorry if I implied so. I will not spend money on development software and persued this attempt with "evaluation" products from Intel & Microsoft. Just give me a JAVA IDE for what I need ;-)

Beyond that, I do not have the appropriate hardware to test with, and I really didn't appreciate the "do it yourself then" attitude from some folks, as I wasn't the one who has been teasing people with supposed wonders of great code for months, if not years now (not sure how long it's been)...

Ditto... Please see PM.

Regards,
JDWhale

Hey...da Whaler of code........
Did I mention that I am truly thankful that you and jason gee have finally taken the time and trouble (and cost) to pursue this porting venture?

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I will not spend money on development software and persued this attempt with "evaluation" products from Intel & Microsoft. Just give me a JAVA IDE for what I need ;-)

Hmmm... I wasn't aware that there was something available for Windows platform for ICC/IPP/MKL. If so, I'll have to look. The problem with getting a eval product is if it is time limited, it may run out before I have the time and/or motivation... Still won't solve the lack of hardware support though...and I think the SSE2/SSE3 code has pretty much been gone over well enough...

Please see PM.

Got it. Will send a response in a little bit...if I can stay awake... Only 1 hour of sleep in the past 40 hours...

Did I mention that I am truly thankful that you and jason gee have finally taken the time and trouble (and cost) to pursue this porting venture?

I agree, thanks to both of them. Although it won't benefit me one iota for quite some time, it will benefit the project as a whole... Hopefully certain folks won't keep zinging them on minutiae... (no, not you Mark)

Did I mention that I am truly thankful that you and jason gee have finally taken the time and trouble (and cost) to pursue this porting venture?

I agree, thanks to both of them. Although it won't benefit me one iota for quite some time, it will benefit the project as a whole... Hopefully certain folks won't keep zinging them on minutiae... (no, not you Mark)

Oh, I wasn't ............I have been longing for a bit of a breakthrough in opti code since dear Simon left the scene......
My best hopes for all who have undertaken the adventure.......

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Mark, does your "Seti City Cat" keep changing colors, or are the frozen margaritas catching up with me??? It's only 10PM here in Texas and I've still got a good 4 hours debugging before my eyes go cross. Please tell me it's not the tequila :-(

-John

P.S. Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus playing on the jukebox tonight :-)

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Mark, does your "Seti City Cat" keep changing colors, or are the frozen margaritas catching up with me??? It's only 10PM here in Texas and I've still got a good 4 hours debugging before my eyes go cross. Please tell me it's not the tequila :-(

-John

P.S. Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus playing on the jukebox tonight :-)

It's been brown, white, gold and black since It appeared, And always popping in and out of the Seti City icon.

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Mark, does your "Seti City Cat" keep changing colors, or are the frozen margaritas catching up with me??? It's only 10PM here in Texas and I've still got a good 4 hours debugging before my eyes go cross. Please tell me it's not the tequila :-(

-John

P.S. Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus playing on the jukebox tonight :-)

LOL........You finally saw that????
The benefactor of the LOL kittie code did that almost a month ago, and I was waiting for someone to spy it......

Yes, there is a nest of at least 3 little kitties waiting to pop out at you to say meow.........great, isn't it???
I never liked tequila.......except for the song....Tequila...the kitties don't like tequila.....

Edit......except for the music....they luv the gueeeeetars........

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Welcome to the party...

looking at a function named "analyze_pot" right now.....

Hmmmm Is that Legal ?

"you know that you're over the hill....
When your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill."

-Lowell George RIP

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Welcome to the party...

looking at a function named "analyze_pot" right now.....

Hmmmm Is that Legal ?

Dunno.......gave that up about
30 years ago.............

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

as long as you don't inhale, i'm sure you could get away with it as well.

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as long as you don't inhale, i'm sure you could get away with it as well.

That's OK, I've tasted whiskey, but I never swallowed.............

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

as long as you don't inhale, i'm sure you could get away with it as well.

That's OK, I've tasted whiskey, but I never swallowed.............

When playing cards, I like to get the waitress to bring me a snifter of Grand Marnier so I can swirl it and smell it, maybe put a drop on the tongue with the stir stick... Ummm lovely. One's got to keep a level head when at the tables in Las Vegas. But at home, ahhh that's a different story altogether ;-)
We digress!


Alright, I was preparing the farm to run unattended while I'm away when I came across this host of mine that the project had decided to detatch a couple days ago. (Haven't looked through the logs, don't care too. This did however yield an opportunity. Looking at the results I see that I've been getting 0.0 credits granted due the now famous "Task was reported too late to validate". So I decided to cancel most the "detatched WUs" and turn loose the WhalePort on those few VLAR & VHAR that have a chance to report "early enough" to get validated.

There were maybe 10 detatched VLARs, and 6-8 VHAR's that were not "detatched", but that I turned loose anyway, currently running are 4 VHAR WU's simultaneously... In the past, this created the worst case scenario with horrible performance swings from only running only 1 or 2 at a time. 3 others ran with mix of other AR WU's. An example VLAR WU.

We'll see how it goes...

FYI Host is:

• Q6600 @ 2520GHz (5% OC limited by MoBo)
  
• Asus P5B-MX (Not too bad as far as mATX goes, but won't OC)
  
• Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 (2x1GB) running restricted at 667 + 5% due to MoBo
  
• BoincPE diskless boots from Sandisk 512MB UltraII USB
  

Still not a crunching beast, it's only been online 2 weeks in current configuration after a MoBo failure forced me to relocate CPU to create this host.


Regards,
JDWhale

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There were maybe 10 detatched VLARs, and 6-8 VHAR's that were not "detatched", but that I turned loose anyway, currently running are 4 VHAR WU's simultaneously...

[Edit:timed out while composing]
Just DL'd a bunch of VHAR WU's that might not make deadline after I shutdown the outside connection. So I'm going to continue them either 1,2,3 or 4 at a time to see how much impact it has on CPU times I think that we saw the best-worst case already 31% increase in CPU time (860 vs. 1130 seconds) for 1 and 4 processes. Just interrested where 2 & 3 simultaneous VHAR processes fall in the mix. Should show up as discreet, clearly distinguishable, gathers for same AR vs. CPU time on plots.

I'll crunch them for a short while, then switch back to KWSN_2.4V_SSSE3_MB to run comparisons... For clarification, this host always has 4 cores crunching, I'm only varying the number of VHAR WUs to run simultaneously. On systems with more memory bandwith, this might not be as much an issue.

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When playing cards, I like to get the waitress to bring me a snifter of Grand Marnier so I can swirl it and smell it, maybe put a drop on the tongue with the stir stick... Ummm lovely. One's got to keep a level head when at the tables in Las Vegas. But at home, ahhh that's a different story altogether ;-)
We digress!
Regards,
JDWhale

Well, I just happen to live in Vegas : > ) If you're ever lookin' for a b'jack partner......
BTW, I'd love to try that program you use to practice ; > )

Great idea w/ the Grand Marnier!

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Great idea w/ the Grand Marnier!

Heck, if this port of the code works, we should all chip in Buy him a bottle :)

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Great idea w/ the Grand Marnier!

Heck, if this port of the code works, we should all chip in Buy him a bottle :)

And put the cork back in while there was still a sip or two left when we give it to him eh?

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When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.

Oh yeahh... i can hold off that mac purchase if Whale gets it right....

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