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Message 722503 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 3:52:21 UTC

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Message 722508 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 4:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 722503.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m


Phew....thought for a second they were shutting down Aricebo...
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Message 722515 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 4:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 722508.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m


Phew....thought for a second they were shutting down Aricebo...

The funding for Arecibo is under threat as well, unfortunately, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory#Funding_issues, or google Arecibo funding.

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Message 722527 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 5:40:25 UTC


. . . 'ave no fear re: Arecibo - the use for NEO's (NASA) will keep iT up & runnin' for a very long time (promise)


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Message 722544 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 7:03:23 UTC - in response to Message 722503.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m

If only I was Bill Gates.....
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Message 722573 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 10:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 722544.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m

If only I was Bill Gates.....


Radio news this am says Warren Buffet is now richest, not Gates.
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Message 722656 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 15:27:55 UTC

I wrote to my local Member of Parliment (MP) about this story and have received this reply.
Hi Andy

I was surprised to read that story myself and I share your concerns. I
will write to the Science Minister and I'll get back in touch when I
receive his reply.

Best wishes

Greg


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Message 722694 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 16:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 722656.  

I wrote to my local Member of Parliment (MP) about this story and have received this reply.
Hi Andy

I was surprised to read that story myself and I share your concerns. I
will write to the Science Minister and I'll get back in touch when I
receive his reply.

Best wishes

Greg


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Pretty cool.
We don't often get answers like that here in the USA. ;)
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Message 722741 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 18:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 722694.  




Pretty cool.
We don't often get answers like that here in the USA. ;)


It doesn't very often happen here in the UK either! His local MP must be one that gives a...

I hope the Government don't shut down Jodrell to save a poxy £2.5m
In the grand scheme of things it is NOTHING. Our Government probably spend 10 times that on tea and biscuits for their many non productive meetings.

Look what the Iraq war has cost - or the ID Card scheme that no one here wants.

Honestly...Couldn't run a good session in a brewery this lot.
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Message 722940 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 9:09:54 UTC

UK citizens can sign a petition. (I would, but I’m not, so I can’t.)


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Message 722963 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 10:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 722940.  

UK citizens can sign a petition. (I would, but I’m not, so I can’t.)


Thanks for that, I was just about to post the same link.
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Message 722996 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 13:13:57 UTC - in response to Message 722940.  

(I would, but I’m not, so I can’t.)



Am, so I did :D

251 signatures to this point.
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Message 723035 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 15:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 722996.  

(I would, but I’m not, so I can’t.)

Am, so I did :D

251 signatures to this point.

So did I.

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Message 723069 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 17:22:45 UTC

And I.Total now stands at....402
Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care
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Message 723169 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 21:40:11 UTC

I was quite amazed, when I saw this on the BBC News site - it is so insane, that you couldn't make it up!

Now standing at 521


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Message 723206 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 23:50:28 UTC

At the risk of having this whole thread relocated into the Politics message board (where Blurf has already locked the discussion), a significant part of the problem is that the British Government has developed a habit of devolving detailed funding decisions to arms-length Agencies, Regulators and Contractors.

They do the actual dirty deed, and the elected politicians (to whom the petition is directed) wash their hands of the whole dirty business. Worse, standards of public accountability and scrutiny don't apply in the same way to the afore-mentioned 'Agencies, Regulators and Contractors': many financial decisions are deemed "commercial in confidence", thus side-stepping the Freedom of Information Act.

In this case, if I read it correctly, the Government has made a reduced block grant to the 'Science & Technology Facilities Council', and left them to wield the axe. The best possible interpretation is that the STFC have made a deliberately provocative proposal to close an iconic, high visibility site, to demonstrate the imbecility of trying to fund a quart of projects from a pint-sized pot. The closure proposal is imbecilic, because apart from anything else Jodrell Bank has Grade I Listed status (the national equivalent of a World Heritage Site, or similar): it would be illegal to demolish the structure, or even to fail to maintain it.

We must resist any attempt to divert responsibility to the Science & Technology Facilities Council: all representations should be made direct to the Government, Ministers, and our elected Members of Parliament. Sign the Petition!
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Message 723222 - Posted: 8 Mar 2008, 0:48:56 UTC

Just signed - Now standing at 567.

Here's a suggestion for the politicians - STOP fiddling your expenses & take a pay cut.

That way there will be enough funds to keep Jodrell Bank going for at least a 100 years!
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Message 723490 - Posted: 8 Mar 2008, 20:16:47 UTC

There are actually 2 petitions on the same site which have been started by different people. I don't think it's a problem if people sign both of them, so I've done just that.

The first has the least signatures at 332 and can be found at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RadioAstronomy/

The second currently has 875 signatures and can be found at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/
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Message 723639 - Posted: 9 Mar 2008, 6:37:52 UTC - in response to Message 722573.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m

If only I was Bill Gates.....


Radio news this am says Warren Buffet is now richest, not Gates.

But Buffets fortune will be left to none other then William Henry Gates III.
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Message 723712 - Posted: 9 Mar 2008, 13:23:53 UTC - in response to Message 723639.  

Picked this up in the Times World-leading telescopes face being shut down to save £2.5m

If only I was Bill Gates.....


Radio news this am says Warren Buffet is now richest, not Gates.

But Buffets fortune will be left to none other then William Henry Gates III.


Well, actually to Gate's Charity Foundation.
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