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Message 28388 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 15:21:30 UTC

I've two identical systems that give a differance in benchmark resuls.
XP gives:
1328 Whetstones and 3478 Drystones.
Linux gives:
706 Whetstones and 2045 Drystones.

processor is a 2.60 Ghz Intel celeron.
With completing the Seti work units the performance seems the other way arround. The linux system cracks it in about 4 to 5 hours while the XP system uses 8 to 9 hours per unit.

What am i doing wrong on the XP system?

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Message 28602 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 11:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 28388.  

> I've two identical systems that give a differance in benchmark resuls.
> XP gives:
> 1328 Whetstones and 3478 Drystones.
> Linux gives:
> 706 Whetstones and 2045 Drystones.
>
> processor is a 2.60 Ghz Intel celeron.
> With completing the Seti work units the performance seems the other way
> arround. The linux system cracks it in about 4 to 5 hours while the XP system
> uses 8 to 9 hours per unit.
>
> What am i doing wrong on the XP system?

Probably nothing...

First question. Which version of the BOINC Work Manager are you running? If it is not 4.09, that is the first step, download and install that.

There was a major issue with the benchmark that should have been fixed in 4.09 and that may account for some of the difference.
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Message 28636 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 13:20:37 UTC

Both are on 4.09, but on older versions the differance is the same, when cracking WU's. I noticed the differance in benchmark because of the upgrade.
Now trying the cli client on the XP see what that brings, but i don't expect much improvement over the gui client. Both run at 96% to 98% of the CPU usage.
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Message 28705 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 18:19:39 UTC - in response to Message 28636.  

> Both are on 4.09, but on older versions the differance is the same, when
> cracking WU's. I noticed the differance in benchmark because of the upgrade.
> Now trying the cli client on the XP see what that brings, but i don't expect
> much improvement over the gui client. Both run at 96% to 98% of the CPU usage.

Now, take this carefully cause I am a known Microsoft basher, but it is my long held contention that the Windows OS is not that efficient. I know that in my informal task switching tests and multitasking tests that it does not come out too well...

So, that may account for some of the differences too.

I have little experience with BOINC on Linux, and other than doing some work on the Mac almost as ignorant there. THough I just got bamboozled into installing BOINC View (which now gives me a "view" into my other hosts, I may re-think my decision to wait to convert a couple of my machines to Linux ...
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Message 28777 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 23:33:43 UTC - in response to Message 28705.  

> I may
> re-think my decision to wait to convert a couple of my machines to Linux ...

Do it. It's fun, powerful & free :)
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Message 28924 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 9:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 28777.  

> > I may
> > re-think my decision to wait to convert a couple of my machines to Linux
> ...
>
> Do it. It's fun, powerful & free :)

I know, I have installed it in the past, but; with BOINC being only available in CLI for Linux I had been slow to rebuild any of my systems with Linux ...

And, now is not a really good time to do that when I have so much work to do with my documentation. And I am still learning what BOINC View can do. If it works well, that may change my priorities to think about converting at least two of my systems to Linux The others, well, I have the OEM version of Windows XP Pro instead of my MSDN subscription installs so they are less of an issue. Besides, LHC@Home does not yet have a Linux version ...

Excuses, excuses, ... I know, nothing but excuses ....
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Message 28952 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 11:40:51 UTC

Linux nearly twice as fast as windows, when running Seti boinc. Even the cli client in XP takes 8:50 for 1 wu to complete, this looks like a spill of recources when running XP.
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Message 28958 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 12:12:35 UTC - in response to Message 28924.  
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>
> I know, I have installed it in the past, but; with BOINC being only available
> in CLI for Linux I had been slow to rebuild any of my systems with Linux ...
>

Paul,

The fellow who wrote BoincView also has a PHP script for a web server that will allow you to control Boinc. I have a small network at home. Main machine is a Linux box. Second machine is an old slow 300 MHz PII running Win98SE. Both run Boinc. Linux box has a web server (http://www.dennett.org). I installed the PHP script the other day (and added authentication so just not anyone can get to it) and can control both Boincs from it since both are on my home LAN and each machine "knows" about the other. You can attach/reset/detach, force updates, see the messages and work queue. In other words, everything you can do with a GUI.

I also have BoincView installed on the Windows box and can control both machine from that, also, but obviously can't do it remotely like I can with the PHP script on the webserver.

Might want to check it out.
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Message 29040 - Posted: 22 Sep 2004, 16:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 28958.  

Charles,

> The fellow who wrote BoincView also has a PHP script for a web server that
> will allow you to control Boinc. I have a small network at home. Main
> machine is a Linux box. Second machine is an old slow 300 MHz PII running
> Win98SE. Both run Boinc. Linux box has a web server
> (http://www.dennett.org). I installed the PHP script the other day (and added
> authentication so just not anyone can get to it) and can control both Boincs
> from it since both are on my home LAN and each machine "knows" about the
> other. You can attach/reset/detach, force updates, see the messages and work
> queue. In other words, everything you can do with a GUI.
>
> I also have BoincView installed on the Windows box and can control both
> machine from that, also, but obviously can't do it remotely like I can with
> the PHP script on the webserver.
>
> Might want to check it out.

Lord, just what I need ... :)

ANOTHER APPLICATION TO INSTALL, AND MAINTAIN ... sigh ...

Thanks for the tip, it is not so much the running that is the issue. It is having visibility of what is going on. That I am getting with BOINC View. Thoug it is a little "clunky" looking, and I had a minor issue with Macintosh permissions, I have all 6 visible now ... and making cvs logs. I kept most of my SETI@Home Classic logs (output of SETI Driver and SETI Spy) so I have data on most of the WU I processed ... And at the moment those were my two biggest "holes" that annoyed me with the BOINC system.

Now, I am as happy as a clam ... well, almost ...

At the moment I don't want to rock-the-boat with too many changes. So for now, I will be sticking with this... I now have visibility of what my Mactintosh is doing and I can concentrate on my documentation. Which always seems to me to be in really horrible shape ...
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