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Contact Send message Joined: 16 Jan 00 Posts: 198 Credit: 2,249,004 RAC: 0 |
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Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1387 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
There seems to be some pre-existing scientific research backing the 40-billion-planet remark by Dr. Shostak. He specified life in general, not intelligent life. See link to article, below: http://www.dailycal.org/2013/11/07/researchers-predict-billions-habitable-earth-like-planets/ |
gpuller20001014 Send message Joined: 14 Oct 00 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,294,763 RAC: 0 |
Is it just me or has some one else noticed that we occupy a VERY small space in the earth's 4.5 billion year history. I don't know how to put this in perspective, but it is a very long perspective if I can. Human civillisation on earth has been theoretically obsrvable for about the last 50 to 100 years. That's 50 to 100 of the last 4.5 billion years. If searching for intelligent life were a lottery the odds of finding it would be long in the extreme. Perhaps a civilization that has been observable for 1,000 years would be found more easily - maybe not. The odds in that case would not be much better. Finding intelligent life is similar to state lotteries in another respect - multiple drawings, or games over time. All planets in our galaxy did not come into existence 4.5 billion years ago, they are probably constantly being formed and destroyed as a natural part of stellar evolution. So this would mean another factor would be how long aliens were 'online' and when. We could miss them by a million or a billion years. I'm sure life is plentiful in the universe, but I think advanced and intelligent life is very rare. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Frank Drake, senior scientist at the SETI Institute, responded that no alien civilization appears to be continuously broadcasting a powerful "beacon" signal from a planet circling any of the nearest 1,000 or so Sunlike stars, at least in the frequency bands we've searched. If there were such powerful beacons, they'd have been picked up by Project Phoenix, an ambitious nine-year undertaking that the SETI Institute concluded in March 2004. - /quote] |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Scientists At SETI Have Plans To Converse With Aliens Astronomers have always been curious for knowing whether there is a second planet like Earth where people, aliens as they are specifically termed, live. Let’s just forget significance of their ambitions but embrace this fact that scientists have devoted this semicentury for purpose of listening extra-terrestrial civilizations. All these efforts have led most of them to believe that there is no such thing as an ET. http://techfrag.com/2015/03/28/scientists-seti-plans-converse-aliens/ |
Akio Send message Joined: 18 May 11 Posts: 375 Credit: 32,129,242 RAC: 0 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. It is What we send that is most important. It should be a message of peace, showing the good sides of humans, our creativity and our features of caring for and loving other creatures. Most of us have that in us, naturally. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Fractale2015 Send message Joined: 28 Mar 15 Posts: 42 Credit: 260,222 RAC: 0 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. There is no danger ! There are already here and monitor nuclear plants. it's a secret for nobody but where do they come and how it's possible government stay mute? For the French check the video of (Institut de recherche sur les expériences extraordinaires) INREES, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1E5mVcIv4U |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. I'm afraid that is overly optimistic. All they have to do is sit back and watch and listen at a safe distance and discover the ugly truth about most of the people in charge and how we would likely react if they made themselves known to all. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. I strongly believe that's what they're doing already, Bob. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. I think it's giving these potential ET's too many human-like characteristics to assume that they would be interested in watching and studying us. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
ugh. I personally don't believe it is wise to actively attempt to signal ET's. There is a strong danger element present, and with no plan in place if the mission is a success...I just don't know if a 50/50 chance of a friendly ET encounter is a risk we as a civilization should act upon. I do believe they find us a rather interesting species, Gordon, with lots of potential. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34060 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I'm afraid that is overly optimistic. All they have to do is sit back and watch and listen at a safe distance and discover the ugly truth about most of the people in charge and how we would likely react if they made themselves known to all. Politics?? That would be just the reason why ETI wouldn't have anything to do with us (imo). rOZZ Music Pictures |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24913 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Wow, we haven't found them yet, but some want to marry them already? Now that will be some "science" to study :-) |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
SETI's attempt to make contact with other signs of life Human beings have always wondered if they're alone in the Universe. In 1960, a young astronomer named Frank Drake decided to find out. He pointed an 85-foot antenna at two distant stars and started listening for signs of life. In that moment, a new discipline was born: the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, or SETI. The epicenter of this search is the SETI Institute, an unassuming office building in Mountain View, California—the heart of Silicon Valley. Seth Shostak, director of the Center for SETI Research at the institute, says the search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a lonely corner of science. "Worldwide, the total number of people doing this for a job, if you will, is maybe a dozen, maybe fifteen," he says. "Something like that. It's very small, terribly small." http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/the-pulse/83332-setis-attempt-to-make-contact-with-other-signs-of-life- |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Recently the vLHC@home project reached 2 trillion events (not tasks) done and its chief, dr. Ben Segal thanked us volunteers for it. CERN believes in the distributed volunteer computing paradigm and has other projects running and coming. Tullio Sorry, events instead of jobs. An event is a proton-proton collision, which may or may not produce other particles. such as the Higgs boson. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
2015/07/18 CNET ARTICLE: "Save the world using your PC or phone" BOINC, SETI and a few other projects were mentioned in the article. There seems to be A LOT OF MISINFORMATION / BOGUS postings on CNet's Facebook posting https://www.facebook.com/cnet/posts/10153599739847275 where I originally saw the article link. The usual type of "idiots" are saying how BOINC is used for bot nets and such garbage. Maybe we can get some more BOINC users to "slay" the B.S. by posting FACTUAL INFORMATION. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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Contact Send message Joined: 16 Jan 00 Posts: 198 Credit: 2,249,004 RAC: 0 |
Prof Stephen Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens Large! All hail Stephen Hawking! Thank you WinterKnight for instigating my latest happy dance. |
Jim Martin Send message Joined: 21 Jun 03 Posts: 2482 Credit: 646,848 RAC: 0 |
S. Hawking said to listen for ET, but make no attempt to let him know we're here. Look what happened to our cousins -- Neanderthals, CroMagnon , et.al. There's them, there's us. . . On the brighter side of things, they probably wouldn't want to expend resources getting here. |
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