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Message 658033 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 22:40:22 UTC
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This thread is a continuation of Religious threads [10], [9], [8], [7], [6], [5], [4], [3], [2], [1].
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Message 658045 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 22:46:58 UTC

Let's see, where were we? Oh yes:

. . . and then he tripped and fell on the ant.
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Message 658068 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 23:08:36 UTC

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Trivia:

11 -- the number of Apostles when Jesus died. :o)
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Message 658074 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 23:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 658045.  
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. . . and then he tripped and fell on the ant.

. . . not being injured, the ant crawled out from beneath Solomon, stood on the tip of the kings nose, and ordered the rest of the ants to return... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 658093 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 23:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 658068.  
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Trivia:

11 -- the number of Apostles when Jesus died. :o)

I am not sure that is right. Tradition holds that Judas hanged himself, but even if that is true, it is unclear if that happened before or after Jesus died on the cross, and though disgraced, Judas was still an apostle. So the number of apostles at the time of Jesus' death would depend on when Judas died.

Then, there is Paul, who turned from Roman citizen bent on hounding the splinter group of Jews who followed Jesus, to the next (12th?) apostle.
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Message 658115 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 0:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 658074.  

. . . and then he tripped and fell on the ant.

. . . not being injured, the ant crawled out from beneath Solomon, stood on the tip of the kings nose, and ordered the rest of the ants to return... ;)

...and then man invented the can of Raid.
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Message 658145 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 1:14:27 UTC - in response to Message 658093.  

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Trivia:

11 -- the number of Apostles when Jesus died. :o)

I am not sure that is right. Tradition holds that Judas hanged himself, but even if that is true, it is unclear if that happened before or after Jesus died on the cross, and though disgraced, Judas was still an apostle. So the number of apostles at the time of Jesus' death would depend on when Judas died.

Then, there is Paul, who turned from Roman citizen bent on hounding the splinter group of Jews who followed Jesus, to the next (12th?) apostle.


According to the Bible (St. Matthew), Judas hanged himself when Jesus was brought to Pilate. So He must have been still alive when Judas died. It was after the Lord's Ascension that they selected another Apostle, Matthias, to make the 12 full again (Acts 1:23-26).
Saul alias Paul came much later. He was mentioned first as Saul in Acts 7,58 (when Stephen was stoned) and Acts 8:1-3 (persecuting the Christians). He had his vision and was baptized later, as it's written in Acts 9. It's not before Acts 13 that Saul changed his name into Paul - maybe there were too many members of the early church too scared of his original name that he finally changed it?
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Message 658146 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 1:14:29 UTC - in response to Message 658115.  

...and then man invented the can of Raid.

. . . and behold, the skies darkened, the heavens opened up, and fire rained down upon the whole earth; and out of its midst, came the unstoppable fire-ant... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 658149 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 1:17:14 UTC - in response to Message 658146.  

...and then man invented the can of Raid.

. . . and behold, the skies darkened, the heavens opened up, and fire rained down upon the whole earth; and out of its midst, came the unstoppable fire-ant... ;)

Ouch! ;o)
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Message 658224 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 5:15:33 UTC - in response to Message 658146.  

...and then man invented the can of Raid.

. . . and behold, the skies darkened, the heavens opened up, and fire rained down upon the whole earth; and out of its midst, came the unstoppable fire-ant... ;)

...to which man responded by creating pest control businesses.
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Message 658386 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 14:14:26 UTC - in response to Message 658146.  

...and then man invented the can of Raid.

. . . and behold, the skies darkened, the heavens opened up, and fire rained down upon the whole earth; and out of its midst, came the unstoppable fire-ant... ;)






Even I think the mosquitoes are just as devilish.


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Message 658483 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 18:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 658386.  

...and then man invented the can of Raid.

. . . and behold, the skies darkened, the heavens opened up, and fire rained down upon the whole earth; and out of its midst, came the unstoppable fire-ant... ;)






Even I think the mosquitoes are just as devilish.


Nope. No animal is really devilish, except that intelligent mammal Homo Sapiens Sapiens. No animal is as cruel as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, called human.
All other beings hurt any other being no more than necessary (for gaining food, like the mosquito, or in stamping ground fights, like deer, for example), any other being kill other beings only for food, and only as many as they, their pack, or the pack plus affiliates can eat..
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Message 658518 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 18:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 658483.  

Nope. No animal is really devilish, except that intelligent mammal Homo Sapiens Sapiens. No animal is as cruel as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, called human.
All other beings hurt any other being no more than necessary (for gaining food, like the mosquito, or in stamping ground fights, like deer, for example), any other being kill other beings only for food, and only as many as they, their pack, or the pack plus affiliates can eat..

There have been documented cases of rape and murder by apes and chimpanzees. Many wild animals will abandon their young due to a simple touch by another species (often humans). You can say that these are merely survival strategies, but then the same could be said for the cruel acts of humans.

The most notorious genocidal individuals and groups will always give a justification that their actions are for the greater good, or that their victims deserve their fate. For example, look at Bosnia, WWII Germany and present day Africa: the worst abuses are always justified by claims that the persecuted were using up resources that should have been used by the persecutors' clan/race/etc. I am not justifying the acts of cruelty done by humans, but those acts are not different from those of animals, except that we might understand what we have done.
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...to which man responded by creating pest control businesses.

If you're referring to those guys who charge a small fortune to come out and move the ant hills from the back yard to the front yard, then ya better sign up for the 'extended service plan', you're gonna need it... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 658541 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 19:16:29 UTC - in response to Message 658518.  

Many wild animals will abandon their young due to a simple touch by another species (often humans).

Personally, I don't particularly like being touched by humans either... ;)
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Message 658572 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 19:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 658541.  

Many wild animals will abandon their young due to a simple touch by another species (often humans).

Personally, I don't particularly like being touched by humans either... ;)

I am not surprised at all. And now I understand you a little more.
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Message 658584 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 20:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 658541.  

Many wild animals will abandon their young due to a simple touch by another species (often humans).

Personally, I don't particularly like being touched by humans either... ;)


Awwww poor Jeffrey. You've been hurt too many times?

Cheer up, old chap, there might be one for you out there also. Just start to look the right places and don't be too choosy but don't be too exclusive neither. Then I'm sure you will find that special someone. :-)

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Message 658670 - Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 23:46:31 UTC - in response to Message 658584.  

I'm sure you will find that special someone.

Odd that no one I've approached has ever given me the time of day, yet every one that has ever approached me has done so in such an obvious meticulously planned manner...

Ever hear the phrase: 'All the world is a stage'? No thank you, until I'm free to choose, I'll pass... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 658714 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 0:54:35 UTC - in response to Message 658670.  

I'm sure you will find that special someone.

Odd that no one I've approached has ever given me the time of day, yet every one that has ever approached me has done so in such an obvious meticulously planned manner...

Ever hear the phrase: 'All the world is a stage'? No thank you, until I'm free to choose, I'll pass... ;)


Ok, Jeffrey, you kind of lost me there. Of course I don't know anything about your experiences in that area, so I can't say what went wrong. You'll have to elaborate a bit if you want a more detailed piece of advise.

I'm sad you haven't found your soulmate yet, but don't fall into despair, she is out there somewhere, and you know what they say, if it's meant to happen, it will happen... :-)

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