in the SETI Social Club - 'bumpin' a Comment / Thread to keep it on Top . . . ;)

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

> at times - we would 'bump' all day & all night long . . . point taken?

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

I remember old seti but not the forums,

Tried to find my old PDF award file but couldn't...


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eXcerpt's . . . from 2003 - BEFORE BOINC

Title: Taking Their Science into Parliament
Organisation: Particle Physics & Astronomy Research Council
Release Date: 14 Mar 2003
Summary:
Searching for elusive sub atomic particles, unravelling the mysteries of the Moon, visualising the results of atom smashing experiments

and researching the next generation of particle physics experiments - what do all of these have in common? The answer is that all of these

cutting edge science projects, funded by the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council, are being worked on by young researchers in the UK.


http://www.sci.esa.int/home/smart-1/index.cfm
http://www.AlphaGalileo.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=readRelease&Releaseid=12948

The Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council (PPARC) . . .
http://www.hero.ac.uk/research/particle_physics_and_astronomy224.cfm


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dark matter

PPARC is funding a project - the Boulby Mine experiment
- to investigate the existence of dark matter.

UK Dark Matter Collaboration

the Boulby Mine experiment . . .



http://hepwww.rl.ac.uk/ukdmc/ukdmc.html




The UK Dark Matter search at Boulby Mine
http://hepwww.rl.ac.uk/ukdmc/pix/boulby.html

Galactic dark matter
http://hepwww.rl.ac.uk/ukdmc/dark_matter/galactic_dm.html

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Sandia National Laboratories - High -Yield Fusion Accelerator . . .


" . . . a target about the size of a spool of thread"

The Sandia X-1 Accelerator . . .
[ "Z would serve as a model for the larger X-1 machine. X-1 should
produce x-ray temperatures of more than 3 million degrees, which,
when combined with enough x-ray energy and power, should be
sufficient to implode fusion capsules of deuterium and tritium
(isotopes of hydrogen) to achieve high-yield fusion" ]

< Z accelerator - " the most energetic and powerful laboratory producer
of X-rays on Earth" [ 1.8 M degrees K ]

The Sandia Z Accelerator . . .
[ "The machine is named Z because the current passing directly
into the target travels vertically -- a direction conventionally labeled
"z" by mathematicians and physicists to distinguish it from the
x and y directions, both horizontal" ]

< Pulse power is the foundation Z technology . . .
"It allows the accelerator to bank energy and then release it instantly at a target.
The trigger creates a spectacular rush of lightning across a pool of water used
to transmit the energy"

http://www.sandia.gov/media/Z.htm
http://www.sandia.gov/media/z290.htm


" . . . the physics within, and effects of, a nuclear blast"

The Bomb Project - A Resource

http://www.thebombproject.org/


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? not interested in Hodowanec's GWD Circuits / notes . . .

figured you'd all be delighted - based upon the mere fact that you are here @ SETI . . .



"Some Remarks on the Tesla Mars Signals"

< a gravity system communication method
< receiving scalar signals from the aliens at about 1.3 GigaHz
> the intelligence was in the form of digital-type communication

. . . disturbances I had observed might be due to an intelligent control

Special Note: "SETI with Gravitational Signals"
Greg Hodowanec [Electrical Engineer]
Radio Astronomy Journal (April 1986)


Communication With Mars
Seti With Gravitational Signals?
Communicating with Mars


REX RESEARCH


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Are We Alone?
" . . . approach to exploring Mars"

http://www.seti-inst.edu/epo/seti_radio/Welcome.html

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"Simply a Coincidence . . .?"

Geoff - re: your question "Can we actually send a message out that reflects
humankind as a whole?" is a matter which i believe is an 'On-Going' Project
and is in my opinion - still in it's infancy - regarding any proposals in effect
that might deal with *Contact* - there is a phenomenal amount of work being
done here and the *Answers* should be worked on with an expediency that
encompasses 'as you query' - by an 'agreement' put forth by All Humankind -
. . . i surmise that this entire matter is constantly evolving and will continue to
do so - for quite a long time . . . agreements that are created from the common
sensiblities of the inhabitants of this Earth . . . in short ( lol ) i think that due to
the *Complexity* of this matter - that one has to follow the links and [read] /
research all that which in turn - has already been done / implemented / discussed
and that this matter is of prime interest to a majority - hence there is no 'short'
that could be discussed here - due to 'Time-Constraints' - below . . . i have given
the two (2) Institutes links and extracted ( i hope ) - the proper words in regards
to your question and my own concerns regarding *Contact* - is on that involves
the 'Message Content / Context' - simply based on my being an Artist with quite
an 'inquisitive' / scientific interest in a Project that has implications that have far -
reaching impacts for humanity and our futures . . .

Note: see below and there are other Threads [ Dr. Bruno Moretti IK2WQA ]
regarding Symposiums by Dr. Douglas Vakoch (SETI Institute) - for example -
that have been Posted on this Forum also . . . all pertainent to this discussion . . .

- the ["Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection
of Extraterrestrial Intelligence" . . .read - "We, the institutions and individuals
participating in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence" is *direct* from the SETI
Institute ( http://www.seti.org/seti/seti_science/social/principles.html ) and the other
proposal is from the SETI League ( http://www.setileague.org/iaaseti/reply.htm )
["Proposed by the SETI Commitee of the International Academy of Astronautics, 1995"]

and continuing . . .

. . . this morning ( 3 A.M. Wednesday 03.12.2003 ) - i awaken to my TV - left on
after i fell asleep some time after Midnight . . . glancing @ the TV - i see the
beginning of credit roll for 'Voyager' on Channel 13 (UPN / LA) . . . speaking of
being *Topical* in a reference to our discussions . . . re: First Contact !!!

. . . if any of you remember this particular episode ( a brief for those that never
saw it) . . . do you think that this *Concept of Time* might in effect be one of the
exact reasons why we may not have *Contact* @ this particular time ?

. . . [and] - how would we *Construct* a message for Contact / Detection - if we
are 'out-of-time' with the ETI? What form would such a return message be in turn -
'given a respect' to that factor of a time displacement ?

> ? IDEAS ? <

<start> from Staff writer (Space.com) Kenneth Silber . . .
http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/tv/voyager_612_spoilers_000120.html
Star Trek: Voyager
'Blink of an Eye'

> Synoptic . . .
"Voyager is trapped in orbit around a primitive planet whose inhabitants are in the
midst of a rapid technological evolution that inspires a plot to attack the ship . . ."

> Brief . . .
On Voyager, the crew determines that they are caught in a tachyon field from the
planet's core, and that this field makes time move extremely fast on the planet.

According to Seven, "For each second that passes on Voyager, nearly a day
goes by on the planet." If the ship were to land, the crew would age hundreds
of times faster than normal.

Moreover, Voyager's presence has also caused increased seismic activity on
the surface. While B'Elanna works on the warp drive, Chakotay scans for inhabitants.
"This could be the greatest anthropological find of my career," he tells her.

On the surface, civilization takes hold. A philosopher-cleric and a local official
scoff at ancestral beliefs that every star was a deity. The official then sends a
note via balloon, offering the "ground-shaker" a bribe to stop whatever it's doing
to cause the earthquakes.

The Voyager crew continues gathering information -- the latest scans detect cities
and carbon monoxide from internal-combustion engines. The locals use a great deal
of iron in constructing their buildings, which need to be strong because of the
continuing earthquakes.

An astronomer on the surface gazes at Voyager by telescope, seeing only a bright
shape. He tries to send a radio message, containing prime numbers and elemental
constants. Then, prompted by his assistant, he tries a more personal approach: a
voice message.

Chakotay and Seven receive the signal and slow it down to get the astronomer's
plaintive message.

"Friends in the skyship. I call you that, hoping at least you're not enemies. There's
nothing in our world that resembles your technology, so we assume you came here
from a nearby planet or a distant star. "

"Our ancient mythology describes your arrival centuries ago, coinciding with the
tremors that continually shake our planet and destroy so many of our accomplishments.
I hope that was never your intention, but the result is the same. Respond if you can, or
if you wish come down from your skyship and visit us."

After the Voyager officers hear this, Tom wants to contact the inhabitants, but Tuvok
reminds them that the Prime Directive forbids communication with a society that's not
warp-capable. Besides, the astronomer who sent that message is already dead.

A new plan is formed. The Doctor should be able to adapt to the planet's fast tempo
without physiological harm, so he can pass as one of the inhabitants -- complete with
slight fissure on forehead -- in order to collect information.

When the Doctor beams down, the plan is to beam him up three seconds later, the
equivalent of two days on the planet.

Unfortunately, particle interference keeps him from beaming back, leaving the crew
frantically scanning his likely hangouts -- opera houses and concert halls.

By the time they can bring him back, the Doctor has experienced three years of local
time, apparently complete with a live-in girlfriend.

He says the locals blame Voyager for the quakes, but the rest is speculation. Many
cultural artifacts, even toys, are based on the "skyship."

Moreover, he warns that a space race is underway. The planet's inhabitants will soon
be able to reach Voyager, but will they send a civilian capsule or a warhead?

Even as the orphan Naomi Wildman thoughtfully updates Seven about her astronomy
class report on "The Weird Planet Displaced in Time," Janeway prepares to break from
orbit.

Voyager climbs to a higher orbit, but the effort fails. Worse, the seismic activity has
now increased.

[First contact . . .]

Soon, a local spacecraft is on the way to Voyager, carrying astronauts. The alien astronauts
lose touch with launch control, but manage to dock with the starship and enter nonetheless.
They find the crew seemingly frozen in place.

Puzzled, they go to the bridge, where they collapse from temporal dislocation just as the
effects of the planetary tachyon field ebbs, making them age at the proper speed to
become visible to the Voyager crew.

The male astronaut awakens to find that his colleague did not survive.

Speaking to Janeway, the astronaut realizes that everyone he ever knew is gone. But he
feels some consolation in recalling his childhood toys modeled after the "skyship."

"How often does your very first dream come true?" he asks. "Of course, I'll help you."
He prepares to return to the surface to plead for assistance to the stricken starship.

Before going, he discusses local sports with the Doctor, who privately asks the astronaut
to research the life of a man who'd now be long dead. "He was my son," the Doctor says,
significantly.

Time is running out -- the inhabitants have developed increasingly sophisticated weapons,
and pummel Voyager, the uncaring, earthquake-spawning god of their prehistory, with
antimatter torpedoes.

Tom wants to return fire, but Chakotay refuses to add to the considerable damage already
inflicted by the quakes.

The astronaut descends in his spaceship, but his attempts to contacting launch control get
a contemptuous response, since the use of a long-dead astronaut's name must be a prank.

Eventually, he reaches the coordinator of the local military station's weather channel. "If you
ever wanted to report more than the weather, now is your chance," the astronaut asserts as
he demands a clear landing trajectory.

The attacks on Voyager continue. The crew thinks their new friend's effort must have failed
as tri-cobalt bombs explode around them.

Finally, two advanced ships approach Voyager, and lock it in a tractor beam, but it turns out
their intentions are benign. The ships lift Voyager away from the planet.

The astronaut materializes on the bridge, thanks to a temporal compensator on his wrist that
enables him to pay a brief visit.

He says Voyager's warp drive will be back on line in a few hours. "I feel like I'm saying
goodbye to an old friend," he tells Janeway, before vanishing.

On the surface, the astronaut, his hair now fully gray, looks up to see Voyager leave.
<end>






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" . . . persons with relevant knowledge"

Quote:
9. " In their deliberations on these questions, States participating in this
Declaration and United Nations bodies should draw on the expertise of
scientists, scholars, and other persons with relevant knowledge."

Query:
. . . and *who* shall draw upon the intelligesia - to search and find that
group of *persons with relevant knowledge* ? Shall the U.N. be having
a say in this entire matter - in the end all and what do you think regarding
the matter involving the *Method* of a 'return' message to the ETI . . .

see . . .
'Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities
Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence'

"Recalling the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the
Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial
Bodies, which commits States Parties to that Treaty "to inform the Secretary
General of the United Nations as well as the public and the international scientific
community, to the greatest extent feasible and practicable, of the nature, conduct,
locations and results" of their space exploration activities (Article XI)"

Context: "Should credible evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence be discovered,
an international committee of scientists and other experts should be established
to serve as a focal point for continuing analysis of all observational evidence
collected in the aftermath of the discovery, and also to provide advice on the
release of information to the public"

http://www.seti.org/seti/seti_science/social/principles.html

Copyright © 2003, SETI Institute


< Time has come again . . .

"Understanding the ETI Messages and Replying Appropriately"





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" . . . a focus on the frontier between Particle Physics and Astrophysics"

HIGH ENERGY PARTICLES FROM SPACE . . .

"Cosmic accelerators can reach much higher energies than those available
at terrestrial accelerators. The universe itself generated particle relics from
the initial Big Bang that we have yet to detect as dark matter."

Three Facilities . . .
1. Pierre Auger Ultra-high Energy Cosmic Ray Observatory -
http://www.auger.org/
2. VERITAS, a TeV gamma-ray Telescope Array -
http://veritas.sao.arizona.edu/
http://veritas.uchicago.edu/
3. CAST : Axion Solar Telescope -
http://axnd02.cern.ch/CAST/

http://cfcp.uchicago.edu/research/index.html

© 2003 Center for Cosmological Physics


< Detecting exo-planets directly . . .
http://youngstars.mpe.mpg.de/
http://www.mpe-garching.mpg.de/
http://www.exoplanet.de/direktsuche/direct_detection.html



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Subject: SETI and SPACE Message 1 of 1
Posted by Bruno IK2WQA > Team anti Ulli
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=7433

NOTE: RE Bruno IK2WQA . . .
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=1398
< User Profile: Dr. Bruno Moretti IK2WQA
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SETI and SPACE
Current Italian Contributions to SETI and Space Research
4th World Symposium On Space Colonization and Life in the Cosmos
Teatro Turismo, San Marino, March 28-29, 2003

http://forum.airsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=598

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SATURDAY, MARCH 29, 2003

09:00 Dr. Douglas Vakoch
SETI Institute, Mountain View, California, USA
"Opening Address: (tentative) Understanding Alien Messages and Replying Appropriately"

http://www.seti-inst.edu/

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SETI Institute Research :

>> Artists and Scientists to Gather in Paris, Composing Messages to ET.
March 18, 2002 Article written by Dr. Douglas Vakoch
http://www.seti.org/seti/our_projects/interstellar_messages/overview/message_comp/details.php?id=64

1. On 18 March 2002, a one-day workshop was held in Paris
http://publish.seti.org/art_science/index.php

NOTE: The workshop was sponsored by the SETI Institute
Leonardo/l’Observatoire Leonardo des Arts et des Techno-Sciences (OLATS)
Leonardo/International Society for the Arts, Sciences and Technology (ISAST)

NOTE: LEONARDO ON-LINE : Leonardo / the International Society
for the Arts, Sciences and Technology
>>> http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/home.html
> http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/metapage.html
>>> http://publish.seti.org/art_science/sponsors.php?language=e

the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA) Permanent SETI Study Group
and the IAA SETI & Society Study Group

2. artwork of Steve Deihl - re: Contact etc . . .
http://www.artretran.com/newsite/ARTPRESS/editions/Deihl/Deihl.html

>> Interstellar Message Construction . . .
http://www.seti.org/seti/our_projects/interstellar_messages/Welcome.html

>> Interstellar Message Group Leadership . . .
http://www.seti.org/seti/our_projects/interstellar_messages/overview/leadership.html

>> Articles About Message Construction . . .
http://www.seti.org/seti/our_projects/interstellar_messages/overview/message_comp/mess_construction.php

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SETI Institute . . .
Douglas Vakoch, Interstellar Message Group Leader

http://www.seti-inst.edu/about_us/leadership/staff/doug_v.html

Dr.Vakoch is now editing a book that examines ways to combine artistic
and scientific perspectives on composing interstellar messages. This book
will be published by The MIT Press in 2004.

NOTE: " . . . Dr. Vakoch leads the SETI Institute's project to compose
interstellar messages that may some day be sent in reply to a signal from
extraterrestrials. This message-making project describes the evolution of
human behavior and morality, with an emphasis on altruism."

"Dr. Vakoch researches ways that different civilizations might create messages
that could be transmitted across interstellar space, allowing communication
between humans and extraterrestrials even without face-to-face contact.

[ He is particularly interested in how we might compose reply messages that would
begin to express what it's like to be human.] "

As a member of the International Institute of Space Law, Dr. Vakoch examines
international policy issues related to sending messages to extraterrestrials.
Through his affiliation with the Department of Psychology at the University
of California at Davis, he also studies people's reactions to the detection of life
beyond Earth.

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Draft Declaration of Principles Concerning Sending Communications with Extraterrestrial Intelligence

1.International consultations should be initiated to consider the question of sending
communications to extraterrestrial civilizations.

2.Consultations on whether a message should be sent, and its content, should take
place within the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space of the United
Nations and within other governmental and non-governmental organizations, and
should accommodate participation by qualified, interested groups that can
contribute constructively to these consultations.

3.These consultations should be open to participation by all interested States and
should be intended to lead to recommendations reflecting a consensus.

4.The United Nations General Assembly should consider making the decision on
whether or not to send a message to extraterrestrial intelligence, and on what the
content of that message should be, based on recommendations from the
Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space and from governmental and
non-governmental organizations.

5.If a decision is made to send a message to extraterrestrial intelligence, it should
be sent on behalf of all Humankind, rather than from individual States.

6.The content of such a message should reflect a careful concern for the broad
interests and wellbeing of Humanity, and should be made available to the public
in advance of transmission.

7.As the sending of a communication to extraterrestrial intelligence could lead to
an exchange of communications separated by many years, consideration should
be given to a long-term institutional framework for such communications.

8.No communication to extraterrestrial intelligence should be sent by any State
until appropriate international consultations have taken place. States should not
cooperate with attempts to communicate with extraterrestrial intelligence that
do not conform to the principles of this Declaration.

9.In their deliberations on these questions, States participating in this Declaration
and United Nations bodies should draw on the expertise of scientists, scholars,
and other persons with relevant knowledge.

Proposed by the SETI Commitee of the International Academy of Astronautics, 1995

. . . persons with relevant knowledge

© The SETI League, Inc. 2003

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Office of the Secretary of Defense/Joint Staff
Electronic Reading Room Documents
Concerning UFO's

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/ufo/

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SETI Membership *Explosion* . . .

SETI@home Cruncher's Corner
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb3/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=14747

also . . . Current Total Statistics
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/totals.html

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— March 13, 2003 —
See our skymap of best candidates
to be reobserved on March 18-20.

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bestcands.html

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< Reobservations Report No. 2 . . .
Quote: SETI@home . . .
"Find out the latest on the selection method in our next "Reobservations Report!"

http://planetary.org/stellarcountdown/reobservations_2.html

Quote: SETI@home . . .
"Changing the angle of observation in the sky (the "zenith") is even slower,
with every 2 degrees shift occupying a full minute."

http://planetary.org/stellarcountdown/reobservations_1.html


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@ Synergy . . .

Skymap of Best Candidates . . .

http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9708#9708

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

I remember Classic, and managed to get to the top 99.902%. But it took much huffing and puffing.

Will have been SETIing for 8 years on the 29th of this month -

A return to my Classic class entry

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

I remember Classic, and managed to get to the top 99.902%. But it took much huffing and puffing.

Will have been SETIing for 8 years on the 29th of this month -

A return to my Classic class entry

CONGRATULATIONS in Advance Sir!!!

My Entry to SETI Classic was No. 2455 - The SETI@home Class of Feb 29 2000

Eight Years Comin' Up like a Tachyon Starship . . . ;)

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

I remember Classic, and managed to get to the top 99.902%. But it took much huffing and puffing.

Will have been SETIing for 8 years on the 29th of this month -

A return to my Classic class entry

CONGRATULATIONS in Advance Sir!!!

My Entry to SETI Classic was No. 2455 - The SETI@home Class of Feb 29 2000

Eight Years Comin' Up like a Tachyon Starship . . . ;)

Only 6 months later than me!

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

I remember Classic, and managed to get to the top 99.902%. But it took much huffing and puffing.

Will have been SETIing for 8 years on the 29th of this month -

A return to my Classic class entry

CONGRATULATIONS in Advance Sir!!!

My Entry to SETI Classic was No. 2455 - The SETI@home Class of Feb 29 2000

Eight Years Comin' Up like a Tachyon Starship . . . ;)

Only 6 months later than me!

yEp . . . i remember the day - with a friend - Drew Lesso turned mi onto that good ol' screensaver i saw on 'is box . . . and the rest is history ;)

i Genuinely Appreciate the hard Work @ Berkeley and I am Personally QUite Happy with the BOINC Project's Progress - after all these Years . . . Thank You to All @ Berkeley for a Top-Notch Job . . .

note:

i remember (i think it was Popular Science) an Article i was readin' @ the time Drew showed mi the Link to SETI@home . . . i shall get a Photograph of said magazine (Yes - i still have it - somewhere) and Post a Photograph of it here . . .

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

. . . the Good ol' days . . . 2002

USER of the day PROFILES

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/user_profile/uod_list.html

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Oct 11, 2002 at 22:03 User of the Day MIA? (2 messages) Jack Lass

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User of the Day MIA? - ace_quaker Oct 11, 2002 at 21:18
Re: User of the Day MIA? - Jack Lass Oct 11, 2002 at 22:03

Subject: User of the Day MIA? Message 1 of 2
Posted by ace_quaker on Oct 11, 2002 at 21:18
Reply to this message.
On OCT 3 Richard W Lubrich Jr was user of the day. The User of the day backlog has all but OCT 3. Bug?

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Reply to this message.
I don't know Ace, but if you haven't noticed, there are two days missing on
the Science board --Oct. 5-6.

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User of the Day MIA? - ace_quaker Oct 11, 2002 at 21:18
Re: User of the Day MIA? - Jack Lass Oct 11, 2002 at 22:03

Subject: User of the Day MIA? Message 1 of 2
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On OCT 3 Richard W Lubrich Jr was user of the day. The User of the day backlog has all but OCT 3. Bug?

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I don't know Ace, but if you haven't noticed, there are two days missing on
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If you are reading this... nice work Richard.
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Congratulation to him.
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WOW, what can i say..? Congratulations! We're proud of U!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah, yes indeed, congrats to Richard
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Thank You Zain & To Each & Everyone @ Synergy

ps - i hope you each don't mind - i felt it necessary to Thank All . . .

and you are a great group . . . have a beautiful day All . . .

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Congrats Sir Richard... Miss ya...
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I am sorry that I missed this.

Congrats to Leonardo, be it a little late

I missed this as it was my oldest daughters birthday (1976)

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Congrats Richard......what can I say
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Sorry I am a little late...but Congrats, Richard!

If you put your URL in your profile, you'll have tons of visitors.
I didn't put my URL, but I told people to look up "Sharlini"
in a search engine, and still they came. =)
Hope you enjoyed your 24 hours of fame.
I saved the page on the day I was User Of The Day.

Sharlini

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Richard (10 messages in thread)
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Richard - ace_quaker Oct 3, 2002 at 06:51
Re: Richard - Richard Oct 5, 2002 at 01:58
Re: Richard - ace_quaker Oct 6, 2002 at 15:14
Re: Richard - LMSLP Gang :) Socrates Consulting Oct 4, 2002 at 05:29
Re: Richard - Kiersten Oct 3, 2002 at 18:42
Re: Richard - Richard W Lubrich Jr Oct 4, 2002 at 04:03
Re: Richard - Richard W Lubrich Jr Oct 3, 2002 at 10:11
Re: Richard - Ron Bobarsky Oct 3, 2002 at 13:56
Re: Richard - magpet Oct 3, 2002 at 10:24
Re: Richard - Jack Lass Oct 3, 2002 at 16:54


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Subject: Richard Message 1 of 10
Posted by ace_quaker on Oct 3, 2002 at 06:51
Reply to this message.
In case you havent seen, You are User Of The Day, lol

Congrats

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 2 of 10
Posted by Richard on Oct 5, 2002 at 01:58
Reply to this message.
Don't know how I managed to do that.
I don't even have a "User Profile".
But thanks just the same.

Richard

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 3 of 10
Posted by ace_quaker on Oct 6, 2002 at 15:14
Reply to this message.
lol Im sorry, There are a lot of people with the same names, and I should have
thought about that, I meant Richard W Lubrich Jr, but since I know him from the
boards I just used richard.

Fill out a profile and it just might be you!

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 4 of 10
Posted by LMSLP Gang :) Socrates Consulting on Oct 4, 2002 at 05:29
Reply to this message.
.... adding my "ten pennorth" to the pile :)

COngrats Richard - well deserved inasmuch as you are also a regular [positive]
Message Board contributor, nicely done Mate [altho as a Poet, couldnt we have
some more 'universal definition' within the folds of your personal profile??]

LOL - only joking! - well done :)

Regs,
Marc.

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 5 of 10
Posted by Kiersten on Oct 3, 2002 at 18:42
Reply to this message.
Congratulations!!! ;)
Are you getting over run by emails?
My mailbox couldn't handle the email overload...
But it is still a great honor!!
Well deserved, as well.
*hugs*
Kiersten

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 6 of 10
Posted by Richard W Lubrich Jr on Oct 4, 2002 at 04:03
Reply to this message.
e-mails (please don't mention that factor *lol*)
i would like to thank each of you that posted + / or sent mail
it is much appreciated (seriously)

*keep them thar WU's comin' in*

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 7 of 10
Posted by Richard W Lubrich Jr on Oct 3, 2002 at 10:11
Reply to this message.
Kyle - Thank You . . . it's much appreciated

just found out from Zain [ SETI Synergy ] also . . .

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 8 of 10
Posted by Ron Bobarsky on Oct 3, 2002 at 13:56
Reply to this message.
Congrats to Richard ! "In the spotlight"

You can't be a beacon if your light don't shine, unless your Richard ! ! !

Happy User of the Day -

Ron

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 9 of 10
Posted by magpet on Oct 3, 2002 at 10:24
Reply to this message.
Richard

Where to pay "under the table" to become "user of the day"?..*S*

Congrats!

Magnus

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Subject: Re: Richard Message 10 of 10
Posted by Jack Lass on Oct 3, 2002 at 16:54
Reply to this message.
Ever hear of the squeaky wheel principle? Congrapulations Richard

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How can I become the user of the day? (4 messages in thread)
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How can I become the user of the day? - suman Oct 3, 2002 at 12:25
Re: How can I become the user of the day? - Joppe Oct 4, 2002 at 09:16
Re: How can I become the user of the day? - area51 Oct 3, 2002 at 13:08
Re: How can I become the user of the day? - area51 Oct 3, 2002 at 13:12




Subject: How can I become the user of the day? Message 1 of 4
Posted by suman on Oct 3, 2002 at 12:25
Reply to this message.
I have been with SETI@home since its inception and I haven't been become the user of the day yet. How do I go about it?


Subject: Re: How can I become the user of the day? Message 2 of 4
Posted by Joppe on Oct 4, 2002 at 09:16
Reply to this message.

Thy must be worthy of this great honour :-)


There have been less than 1500 days.
There are now over 4 million S@H users.


The odds are against the individual ;-)



Subject: Re: How can I become the user of the day? Message 3 of 4
Posted by area51 on Oct 3, 2002 at 13:08
Reply to this message.
you obviously dont look at your profile because on it,it says vote to recommend
and users that looks at your profile can vote for you to be user of the day


Subject: Re: How can I become the user of the day? Message 4 of 4
Posted by area51 on Oct 3, 2002 at 13:12
Reply to this message.
but you dont have a profile so you cant at the moment


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Your credit:
Name (and URL) Richard W Lubrich Jr
Results Received 276
Total CPU Time 1.275 years
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in the SETI Social Club - 'bumpin' a Comment / Thread to keep it on Top . . . ;)

what the first offical day seti classic started?

I joined in Sept of 1999

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in the SETI Social Club - 'bumpin' a Comment / Thread to keep it on Top . . . ;)

what the first offical day seti classic started? Mar 1999

I joined in Sept of 1999

. . . there's been a Problem with Enterin' Your E-Mail (Classic) on the 2nd Thread below - Berkeley is Aware of Said Problem

SETI @ home - Registration Index for Active Users

SETI@home - User Account Area

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Science Status Page . . .

> regarding the SETI SOCIAL CLUB Board Days Re-Visited:



SETI SCIENCE THREAD . . . RON BOBARSKY

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=3585

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Subject: Programming error ? Is clickplot archieve a Joke ? Message 1 of 1
Posted by Ron Bobarsky on Sep 19, 2002 at 22:32

The aspect ratio and representation of the clickplots are not consistent.
When viewing the clickpot at the 256x level there is a error in my opinion.

A change occurs between 7500 and 8000 seconds in the 256x across the board. . .

Now I would think a scientist would make sure he was posting something useful and accurate,

after all the clickplots were driving 23,936 graphic representations for 3.9 million "participants"

before the link was deleted. Is this a peanut for a dumb elephant. . .

Also contained in the link below is a comparison of anomaly in different days.


http://webpages.charter.net/seti/error.htm


How about some opinions.. . . .

Suddenly Pavels posts arent looking so bad. . .

Ron Bobarsky aka "Mr. Anomaly"

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Subject: Distributed Computing with Payout Message 1 of 1
Posted by Ron Bobarsky on Sep 12, 2002 at 13:38
Reply to this message.

If the only thing I could get as a payout is a simply question answered of the Powermaps.

At one time SETI at Home believed in representing these spikes and have put a lot of time

in generating a zoom clikpot interface and color representations "Since tossed aside" or

due to upgrade changes decided not to represent them any more, shortly after my analysis

post which is probably coincidental they were removed.


If I could get a "Unauthorized", opinion which does not reflect the SETI at Home Team

position on the anomaly from a SETI at Home Admin.


Perhaps my presentations were sporatic and not well explained and hopefully the lack

of direction has not steered the admins away from taking a closer look.

They were made with good intension and I do not believe the anomaly is artifact as a result of the process.


Thanks in advance - Ron Bobarsky

http://webpages.charter.net/seti/analysis.htm

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Subject: Re: Programming error ? Is clickplot archieve a Joke ? Message 2 of 3
Posted by Jason Buffalo on Sep 20, 2002 at 10:04
Reply to this message.
No i dont think there is an Error with the clickplots,
they are all fine,you see inconsintancy wenn looking deeper in the clickplots
is normal,because certain spikes are only visible wenn look closer at the time
and frequenzy range and dont forget that the spikes are strechted out because
the time range has streched to.
i hope this helps

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Subject: Re: Programming error ? Is clickplot archieve a Joke ? Message 3 of 3
Posted by Jason Buffalo on Sep 20, 2002 at 10:12

Sorry its me again forget the first explanation i chud watch your
error page before i run my mouth,well here is your answear
wenn watching your demostration of your error you can see a time range
from 4500 to 7500 and the seconde frame shows from 7500 to 11500,
that this clickplots are not the same is normal your viewing is wrong,
what you chud do is place the first clickplot with the time range of 4500 to
7500 on the bottom of the screen and place the other clickplot uptop of it
this is the correct representation of it,so you can see a time range from 4500
to 11500,it has nothing to do with bad programming or false presentation of
the clickplots.
so this chud help.

until later.

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SEE RON'S ANOMALY NO. 2

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SETI TEAM :

http://setifaq.org/

Mark Taylor <maintainer@setifaq.org>
Html-version: Alfred Das <adas@home.nl>

Contributors: SETI@home team, Peter Alfredsen, Frank J. Perricone, Mark
Stilgar, Arthur Schain, Ed H, Neil Rieck, Thomas Martin,
Malcolm Pack, James Birchfield, Roelof Engelbrecht, Allen
Cleveland, Chris Johnson, Carl Sagan, Eric J. Korpela,
Terry Lee, Sqiz, David Woolley, Jan Knutar, Peter van der
Kort, David Schilling, Alfred Das, Peter Yackel, Lior
Fainshil, Eric Heien, John Pike, Steve Willner, Alfred A.
Aburto Jr.

David Woolley - http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=SETI+%2D+David+Woolley+

(Nicolas A) on SETI Science Thread - talking about *spikes* and i gave him link to SETI ADmin's Comment

regarding New Analysis of Spikes, Triplets and Pulses. Then (David Woolley) of SETI ADmin Posted to (Nicolas A)

. . . see his and the response at the following :

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=3125



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> Mark regularly Posts on the Boards :

Mark Taylor - http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=SETI+%2D+Mark+Taylor

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> Lior 'occassionally Posts to Interesting Things' : and as you know - He Posted to you quite "intelligently" -

Lior Fainshil - http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=SETI+%2D+Lior+Fainshil

Lior Fainshil : posted 3/29/2002 15:16

The Artificial Intelligence Forum -

" Before trying to decode a signal, you should first find it, which is where efforts should be invested.

Regarding finding the signal, it depends what types of signals we are looking for. If we are looking for

intentional beacons, it should be obvious how such signals will look like. The most obvious signal is a

very narrowband continuous signal, which should be easy to detect. The frequency can be anything, but a

good place to start looking is around 1.42GHz. For a sensitive search you should also compensate for the

drift rate caused by the relative accelaration of the source, which is what SETI@home is doing.


If however you are trying to look for any radio leakage, than the signals could be anything.


So in an ideal situation, some kind of an artificial intelligence can be useful in distinguishing

signals from the noise. In practice however, this is not where the problem lies. The really big problem

of SETI is Earthly interference. Despite the fact that SETI@home is searching a very narrow frequency band,

where any communications are prohibited by international treaties, it is constantly picking an unbelievable

number of man-made signals of every possible type. Sifting these is the real problem. If you will start

looking for every unusual pattern, you will be completely ovewhelmed by artificial signals of the type you do not want.

So it is usually more realistic to seach only for a small number of very specific patterns and have a list of the usual

types of interference, so that they won't overwhelm you.


SETI@home is currently searching for 4 types of signals. You can see the details on their site or a quick description on mine."


http://www.ai-forum.org/topic.asp?forum_id=1&topic_id=1852

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SETI Monitor site is back!
from : Lior Fainshil

I am pleased to announce that SETI Monitor now has a new active site.

The url is http://www.zrlm.com/highstress/setimon/

Please update your links.

If you are unfamiliar with SETI Monitor, it is a powerful, yet easy to use add-on for SETI@home,

which does pretty much everything from work unit caching to finding potentially interesting signals.

It keeps a detailed record of all the signals you find and gives detailed information and graphs of each signal

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RON BOBARSKY ANOMALY :

http://webpages.charter.net/seti/analysis.htm

http://webpages.charter.net/seti/anom2.htm

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25th of 1999 December

1419.5 mhz - SOURCE of Anomaly

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November/December 1999 (Vol. 1, No. 6)
Applications of Computer Graphics Software Tools
Jim X. Chen, Ophir Frieder

Graphics software tools open up new possibilities for researchers and scientists, but learning graphics programming

might seem time-consuming or difficult, and the many new graphics tools might seem overwhelming. Fortunately, if you

know how graphics work and the functions of basic graphics tools, you can understand and employ some of the tools

without becoming a graphics expert. Our purpose is to introduce and categorize some graphics tools and their applications,

though not to provide an exhaustive list of tools and their explicit functions, because new graphics tools with various

combinations of functions emerge every day. Through explaining and categorizing a few graphics tools and their primary

applications, we hope to show you the different functions and applications of computer graphics so visualization, modeling,

simulation, and virtual reality can complement your work.

http://www.computer.org/cise/cs1999/c6082abs.htm

The Visualization Group
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
http://www-vis.lbl.gov/index.html

NERSC

http://www.nersc.gov/
http://www.nersc.gov/aboutnersc/

1-800-847-6070 (or 1-510-486-7612)

The Director of NERSC:

Horst Simon
NERSC Division Director
Berkeley Lab, MS 50B4230
1 Cyclotron Road
Berkeley, CA 94720-8150
USA
email: hdsimon@lbl.gov
phone: (510) 486-7377
fax: (510) 486-4300

Public information:

Jon Bashor
NERSC Communications
Berkeley Lab, MS 50C3396
1 Cyclotron Road
Berkeley, CA 94720-8148
USA
email: jbashor@lbl.gov
phone: (510) 486-5849
fax: (510) 486-7520


Graphics/Visualization software at LBNL & NERSC
http://www-vis.lbl.gov/software.html



http://www.computer.org/cise/cs1999/c6toc.htm

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Ron, I found the anomaly very interesting, but for other reasons!!!

Part 1: The Boring Bit

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Consider where the data you are looking at came from, that is, the clickplot.

Essentially What is plotted is the occurrence of power spikes vs time(y axis)
at a given EM frequency(x axis). The signal strength of the spike (pixel at x,y
co-ordinate) is colour encoded.

What is not known from the clickplot is the celestial co-ordinates and at a
given time on the clickplot. This depends on where the telescope was pointing
at the time. Also the clickplot only references time with respect to the start
or the data tape not actual time of recording.

I assume that your graphic transform functions are simply recoding pixel
colours and leaving the x and y co-ordinates untouched and you are transforming
the entire clickplot.

Now the time range on the clickplot spans some 16 hours of real-time
continuously recorded signals. At a guess, your anomaly spans some 10 hours of
real time!!.

Since the Arecibo telescope cannot 'follow' an object at a fixed celestial co-
ordinate, this means the source of the signal, if it is extra-terrestrial, is
coming from an object whose length almost spans the entire visible sky!!!!!

More than likely the source of the signal may be simply earthbound radio
interference.

As for features that resemble body parts, I suggest that this is not an
artifact from the clickplot data or your graphic processing but our brain's
interpretation of what we see in the plot or image. We see a series of dots,
dots of close colour, contrast, etc, become lines and curves and these become
shapes we try to recognise. The majority of the visual cortex is devoted to one
simple task, facial recognition, so it is no suprise that our brain tries first
to detect a face or part of a face in any non-familiar image.

In the original clickplot that you found the anomaly, I can actually discern
what appears to be two humanoid faces and I can make out a body and some limbs
attached to one of the faces. Zooming in on one of the faces, I can make out
after a while hairlines, eyes, nose, mouth and jaw line. I'm not kidding.
Maybe some people can see it and others can't. But I realise its just my
brain's visual processing system working overtime trying to interpret the image
into something it can recognise.

Knowing the origin of the source data for the image, I'd use occam's razor to
say my brain was being fooled rather than an ET (or other nonhuman) encoding an
image in a obscure format that essentially relies on ET knowing that we are
looking at a specific part of the EM spectrum, measuring the strength of of
power spikes in that spectrum vs time and then plotting the data in an abstract
way , and ET would have to know the telescope path and slew rates as well, to
make sure the image was properly encoded. (Or ET may be human after all, hacked
into the SETI database and played with it. I hope not.)


Part 2. The Interesting Bit

---------------------------

The technique you are using does provide important information. It shows in an
instant that there is something peculiar about the data. A valuable visual
aid, so to speak, to quickly analyse data without writing exotic number
crunching programs.

Yes there is something unusual about the clickplot and the signals recorded on
the clickplots source data tape. Ron, I hope the SETI administrators look
closely at what your doing to see if can be used as an additional analysis tool.

I am not ET oriented, nor prone to exotic explanations, so my thinking is quite
mundane. Below is some of the questions that first came to my mind when I read
about your anomaly, and there are many more.

Firstly, if the source of the anomaly was earthbound interfernce, then given
the continuous time length of the anomaly, the inteference was sustained and
local to Arecibo. Was it faulty receiving and recording equipment or recording
media? Were technicians at Arecibo doing something that caused inteference to
be recorded on the SETI tape? etc, etc.

Secondly, if the source of the anomaly was not earthbound, what are the
possible sources?

a) As estimated above, the size of the object is very large. 10 hours of real
time translates into 150 degrees of arc. The moon and sun are approx 1/2 degree
of arc in diameter, so imagine looking up at the sky and seeing something that
is at least 300 times as wide as the sun or moon, extending across the whole
sky!. Unfortunately I do not know where the telescope was pointing during this
time. The only object I know of that fits this description is the Milky Way
(its actually encircles the entire sky, so we may only be looking at a part of
it). If the Milky Way is the source creating the anomaly, what is creating the
spikes and why do they appear to be centred at around 1419.5mhz (guessing from
the position of the anomaly on the image).

b) I don't know the actual time the data was recorded, but what if the source
was solar wind interacting with earth's magnetic field? Again what mechanism
could produce spikes centered around 1419.5mhz? Any other solar related
phenomena that could explain it?

c) What if it is an unknown object? The Gum Nebula, a super nova remnant, is a
very large celestial object than spans about 40 degrees of arc. To give you
some idea of the size of this thing, extend your hand at arms length and spread
your fingers, your hand would only cover half the width of the nebula. It would
be interesting to see your processed images of spikes with reference to
celestial co-ordinates at given frequencies to see if any large patterns
emerge, rather than the clickplot source data that just traces the telscope
path.

Thirdly, could someone be tampering with the data tapes, data splitter
algorthims, return results, etc?

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Continue on! Its good to see someone trying a different and lateral approach to
analyse the SETI data.

Cheers
Space Ace

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=3049




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http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=8404
" . . . This is the part of me that thinks that outer space is all dead:
I think that the chemical reactions witch we call life or DNA is not intelligent or 'alive' in any manner.

Its just that the universe works on a math equation that never even ever ends in the end. Infinity sprials

out creation, we are on the tip of its tounge and its saying "...."


On a plane, I can see the tiny lights belowe, and oh my god they seem so alone. Do they really feel anything at all.

Its like all the doctors are trading pain for numbnes. And on this third planet we are all convinced that we being

watched by a eye in the sky that can't be stoped and when we reach the promise land we get to shake that eyes hand.

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FOR DREW :
- converts work units into wav sound files.

http://gamma.nic.fi/~jknutar/wu2wav/

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Posted by kila12288 on Aug 21, 2002 at 15:28

can you by editing those files like user_info.sah send in false info to seti. I altered how many units i did,

I uped it a hundred and the program saw a hundred more units done. Is this file replaced everytime you send

in a unit and seti tells it how many units you did and that is so if you close seti it knows how many it has done.

If seti doen't correct false #'s out there then it wouldn't be that hard to "hack" it.


http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb3/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=7312

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The Disclosure Project

http://www.disclosureproject.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world;
indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
--Margaret Mead, anthropologist

Rick Wilson :
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=30667

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SCIENCE QUESTION

" Government Classified Distaster - E.L.E "

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=3066

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"this is not the kind of stuff the SETI project is looking for . . . "

> please *remember* - this is all referring to something WE are doing and there are *no results* per se (yet)

and there is so much data that has to be put out there yet - so *give it time* and you shall see *what* WE are

referring to (i promise) - in the meantime (read carefully) ALL that there is and that which is yet to come (soon) OK?


" . . . the SETI staff is ignoring Mr Bobarsky."


> let me *try* or attempt to ask something : does anybody know *who* the SETI ADmin's reaaly are . . .

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Subject: Why I've given up Seti@Home Message 1 of 1
Posted by wopp on Aug 20, 2002 at 22:44

Two days ago, I started shutting down setiathome on the computers I used to run it on. That's no reason to post here,
but someone asked, and I consider it feedback the Seti@Home Administration should be interested in, even if they're
probably not. I'm not spending hours on this message out of boredom. Sorry if messages from me may occasionally
reflect my point of view in cases where I find it appropriate. I'll normally keep my opinion out of it.

Why did I decide to stop running setiathome?
It's a combination of several reasons.

1.) I started running setiathome about 2.5 years ago, because I was interested
in the scientific aspect. Not the astronomy, the distributed computing.
Well, mainly the distributed computing. The astronomic part is of course
interesting too, but even Seti@Home states that the chances of
discoveries are minimal. That's no reason not to try, but it may be a
reason to put priorities elsewhere (other DC projects, energy savings
...). But the computer science aspects are real, important, and
interesting.

How is it feasible to combine the efforts of thousands of users worldwide
into a computation and get a meaningful result out of it? How do you
prevent people from sending in fake results (both fake negative and fake
positive)? How do you ensure that people don't "hold back" results, thus
leaving holes in your scientific data? How do you get users to
participate in the effort? How many users do you get to participate in
the effort? How much computing power is that in total? How much computing
power am I able to "recruit" and add to the effort? How does that relate
to other people? How do you cope with the enormous amounts of data - both
the storage and the communication over the internet? How many platforms
is it worthwhile to support? How do you ensure security? What problems
occur for the participants? The very idea of using otherwise wasted CPU
cycles is an interesting aspect.

Seti@Home had some really interesting solutions to some of these
questions. They had obviously put a lot of thought into the project. A
lot of effort. It turned out they had underestimated the participation,
but that's life. It's not important to know everything beforehand, it's
important to be able to adapt.

They adapted a bit too much, for my taste, or better: in a wrong way.
When they were unable to cope with the amount of WU downloads and result
uploads [that at least is my guess, and we seem to have to guess here],
they threw some of the aspects I mentioned above overboard. While there
are surely some interesting computer science aspects left, many are no
longer applicable (or at least questionable). You probably all know what
I'm referring to.

2.) Information politics/demonstration of concern. There were some valid
questions asked here on this board, which are still lacking an answer. I
realize the Seti@Home Crew are a small overworked group. But still: if I,
as voluntary contributor in a project, have the feeling - justified or
not - that they are neglecting important responsibilities, then I leave
the project. And that's that. And usually I don't even give them feedback
on it.

Matt Lebofsky wrote on Aug 12:
> There's discussion now in the group to formally state our
> "cheater policy" somewhere on the website. Hopefully something
> will be posted soon.

That almost sounds as if a discussion on this board has finally started
something that was long overdue. But that was 8.5 days ago. To date,
nothing has been posted. If the Seti@Home Administration can't post a
simple statement saying that they do not encourage cheating within this
time, then I have to suppose that they either don't care or actually do
encourage it. Good for the numbers [I guess this will end up in the
Guiness Book Of Records some day, although the numbers are in fact
worthless and it should therefore not]. Good for the sponsors. Good
"motivation" for additional users. Small wonder they want to keep quiet
about it. They don't? Well, they are, aren't they?

3.) The motivation system has failed, and I'm taking my consequences.
When I joined the project, I was a few days (or weeks?) later than my
friends I founded a team with. I had access to some fairly new and fast
equipment and found myself overtaking my fellow team members. I friend of
mine got real busy to find additional computers to run setiathome on in
order to keep ahead of me. I got real busy optimizing my computers,
writing a caching program to avoid the idle minutes of WU download, and
finally even buying equipment so I could overtake him and reach other
goals that suddenly seemed reachable.

While seeing Seti@Home as a race is often criticized and said to be "the
wrong motivation", I often read about people trying to achieve some
"goals" (and I've never actually read requests to STOP running setiathome
for these reasons). Whether it's a race with others, a race with
yourself, an effort to get a colourful certificate: what's the
difference? And let's not forget, the motivation system the Seti@Home
Crew has carefully designed is based upon this. Why have stats, teams,
ranking if you're not supposed to look at them? I imagine the amount of
CPU time contributed by this "racing" is enormous, and I imagine that is
what was intended. Without racing, who would go to the trouble of
investing any additional effort? Tuning your system, installing and using
(or even writing!) caching software, supervising a "Seti Farm", finding
the cause of problems and eliminating them [yes, that's this very help
desk board] all take a lot of time. If it was just "making a reasonable
effort at contributing otherwise wasted CPU cycles" noone would go to all
that trouble. For the astronomical scientific effort? Yes, maybe, but
considering the vast amounts of processing power added, will it make any
difference whether I contribute a few hours more or less each day? If I'm
racing someone or even just trying to get my 500 result certificate at
last, then they will. Ranking IS a very important motivating force. Was.
I've done a lot of work for nothing. I'm not wasting any more effort.
Sorry.

Another aspect: ranking keeps us involved with the project. We check the
stats pages every day. We wouldn't check the technical problems page
every day (unless of course there's an acute problem ;-).

4.) Betrayal of faith in the project. I just said it. I invested a lot of time,
good will, and money into the project, based on the impression I had.
I argued with people over whether running setiathome on their computer
will make any difference for them; that they should at least try it out.
Now I find out that it was all in vain. And, even worse, the conditions
have changed - from what I can find out at least six months ago! -

without this being made public. If I had not heard it from a different
source, I would STILL be making efforts that I should know are worthless.
I admit that I do not spend that much time browsing this site - I simply
do not have the time. While everything seemed to run well, I just checked
the technical news page every now and again. BUT: I am a member of a team
with something like 60, 70 active members (we've recently exploded to
over 200, but I'm talking of the time before) with a web site with forum.
We meet people from other teams once per month and talk about the
project. It is hard to believe that ALL OF US should have missed a vital
announcement.
And let's not forget: Seti@Home has our email addresses. While I
appreciate that I don't get an email every few days from them, and while
I am quite aware of the amount of traffic an email to all participants
would generate, I maintain it would be feasible (restrict it to the
"active" participants as they do the class registration pages, send it to
users when they reach a milestone, do some serious optimizing to send it
only once to each MX necessary, ...) if there is something important to
announce.

5.) Efficiency considerations seem to be completely non-existant lately. Whether
it's the default setup of the 3.07 client that effectively wastes
something like 80% of the CPU power - quite contrary to the initial idea
of Seti@Home - or the reanalysis of the 1999 WUs while there is still so
much completely unanalyzed data around or the apparent lack of concern
whether the scientific data remains uncontaminated or the occasional
remarks about "buying time" in the meaning of "keeping us busy until some
problem is solved", my impression is that Seti@Home is not behaving in a
responsible way when using the participants' CPU time. True: due to the
motivation system, a lot of people may not cut down their processing even
if someone publicly announces that they don't need as much CPU time
[which I cannot really imagine to be the case anyway]. Also true: if you
tell someone, his participation is at the moment not needed, he might not
come back when it is. But also true: running setiathome uses energy and
thus costs money. I found an interesting statement on this topic in
http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html#misc.power (it's the Folding@home
FAQ but this point (and not only this point) applies just as well to
setiathome). While the general statement is "it's not that much money",
I don't appreciate people wasting my money, even if they think it's "not
much" money. And, with several computers (and newer ones using more
power) it actually isn't that little.

Let me put this straight: I'm not trying to convince all of you to stop running setiathome.

If your reasons for joining are still valid, go on. I'll even help you by continuing to answer questions here.
I believe that some points that Seti@Home is not addressing should be talked about, so I'm talking about them.
I wish I could have read this message 6 months ago. I may or may not have taken any consequences, but at least
I would have been able to decide for myself. I know many people will not appreciate this, but if someone does:
great. If the Seti@Home Team just thinks about my remarks and maybe takes one or two considerations into SAH II: even better.

If someone can convince me that I'm wrong, please do. I'm not happy about this decision, but for me and from what I know it makes sense.

Happy crunching in any case.


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A question for SETI Admins - Ron Bobarsky Sep 18, 2002 at 13:39
Re: A question for SETI Admins - SETI@home Administration Sep 23, 2002 at 19:53




Subject: A question for SETI Admins Message 1 of 2
Posted by Ron Bobarsky on Sep 18, 2002 at 13:39
Reply to this message.
Why did SETI at Home ingest the cluster of extra birdies in Clickplot: 29au99aa?

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/clickplots/125/000_131.html

I have found a correlation with something and I want to discredit it before posting and would appreciate it if you could perhaps answer this question.

Also does seti at home apply the returned units in different ways other than looking at prospective candidates.

Thanks in advance - Ron Bobarsky


Subject: Re: A question for SETI Admins Message 2 of 2
Posted by SETI@home Administration on Sep 23, 2002 at 19:53
Reply to this message.
The answer to your question is: we don't know.

However, if you look at the corresponding skymap (available from
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/clickplots/ for that date), you'll see that
the telescope is moving across the sky during those vertical line periods,
implying that we picked up some kind of interference, either from a technical
problem at Arecibo or a local Earth-based signal of some kind that our
receiver was picking up regardless of where the telescope was pointed.

Hope this helps,

SAH Administration

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------------------- .... TIME TRAVEL ....

How often many of us have wondered about the possibility of science creating such a thing in the future?

We've known for countless years that anything imaginable by mankind could one day become a reality.


Time and time again, this has been proven to be true. It's inevitable that Time Travel will one day be a reality.

re: "INSTRUCTIONS FOR MEETING TIME TRAVELLERS"


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42 NAMES USED ON SETI SYNERGY :-) . . . especially while i was MODerator there for Dr. Zain Upton

- time traveler
- Tesla
- ?
- Guest
- Illiac
- ILLIAC2
- n=rl
- ME
- x-file
- CRAY
- cloner
- linxzr
- lone gunman
- click(er)
- construct4
- fuser47
- thinker
- fuser02
- access4
- brainiac
- BOINC
- norse
- N.E.X.T.
- Tachyon
- guest 2 richard
- E.L.E.
- D.o.D.
- OM-12
- tek
- byte
- user default
- repeater
- dude
- e=mc2
- swiss citizen
- the STEALTH
- the dane
- sans nom
- Ninja
- Ninja son
- The Harbourmaster
- nobody


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Musei Vaticani - INFORMATION ON MUSEI VATICANI
. . . This is the Weblog of Richard W. Lubrich Jr.
- Artist / Director / Screenwriter / Photographer / Woodworker
- presenting the Artist's that he had the pleasure to have worked
with & documented for 20 + years in Los Angeles.
The pages are a 'Portrait' in Dialogues & Critiques and
utilizing excerpts from a work in progress entitled
" An Artist's Document " . . . Please go to the Art Portfolios
or the Archives to view previous Dialogues regarding the Artists . . .
comments are welcomed

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Musei Vaticani - INFORMATIONEN ÃœBER MUSEI VATICANI
. . . Dieses ist das Weblog von Richard W. Lubrich Jr .
- Künstler/Direktor/Screenwriter/Photograph/Woodworker
- Darstellen des Künstlers, daß er das Vergnügen zum Arbeiten
mit hatte u. für 20 + Jahre in Los Angeles dokumentierte.
Die Seiten sind ein ' Portrait ' in den Dialogen u.
Critiques und Verwenden Excerpts von einem Arbeitsin
Bewegung erlaubt "das Dokument eines Künstlers"
. . . Gehen Sie bitte zu den kunstmappen oder
zu den Archiven zu den vorhergehenden
Dialogen der Ansicht betreffend sind die Künstler. . .
Anmerkungen werden begrüßt

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Musei Vaticani - INFORMATION ABOUT MUSEI VATICANI
. . . This is the Web log of Richard W. Lubrich Jr.
- Kuenstler/Direktor/Screenwriter/Photograph/Woodworker
- representing the artist that it had the pleasure for working
with and for 20 + years in Los Angeles documented.
The sides are permitted to Excerpts a ' Portrait ' in the dialogues
and Critiques and using by a Arbeitsin movement "the document of an artist"
. . . Go please to the art briefcases or to archives to the preceding dialogues
concerning opinion are the artists. . .
Notes are welcomed

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Are We Alone? 'will emphasize . . .'

(1) space exploration that hunts for signs of life on the familiar worlds
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QUOTE :

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Is SETI doing a service for society?

By conducting relatively inexpensive searches
without the use of public funds, the SETI Institute,
in the worst case,
is only wasting its own time and money.
But to those who believe that Earth is not the
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Science Status Page . . .

. . . more Notes from the Classic Days - 2003


pekka
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11

NEW CANDIDATE List . . . POSTED by Berkeley 04.16.2003
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=885

<edit> Zain or other users of SetiQueue.org . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=886

WEDNESDAY - April 16 - UPDATE 4 those that need CLI v3.03
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=880

<edit> Zain :-( BOINC Status and news . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=877

<edit> Zain - Changes in Version 3.08 of SETI@home . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=875

SETI: Letter from Dr. David P. Anderson . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=835

SETI Membership *Explosion* . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827

Skymap of Best Candidates . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=828

Zain . . . BOINC 0.15a Released
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=813

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A Synergistic Welcome to Mike R 325X1 . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=845

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For the American's in this Forum - Show your support
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=868

al Jazeera HACKED . . . <edit> use of Computers @ Work
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=865

3263 Reply's to WAR Forum . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=864

I voted for Bush
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=809

. . . A SOLUTION TO WAR
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=805

[ Poll ] just a question to ponder
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=820

. . . simply a problem
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784

ERR & DoD Links . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=817

Fun With The French
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=814

" The President has said he wants to know . . ."
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=816

spanking
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=808

MEMO TO MR. BIN LADEN: GO TO HELL!
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=801

"The Patriot Act II" - To All American Citizens .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=798

. . . about someone's Concern Regarding War
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=785

Bush Orders Guidelines for Cyber-Warfare
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768

[ Poll ] Deep Thought II: War in Iraq
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=533

Colin Powell's Address to the United Nations . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=761

A Farewell To Heroes . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=758

BE VERY MUCH AFRAID MY FRIENDS . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=747




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Apr 13, 2003 at 09:07 . . . after 3 Years with SETI . . . finally made it to 500 integumentum
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=7834

Apr 13, 2003 at 09:57 _a question for the '0' wu individuals integumentum
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb5/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=5778

Apr 13, 2003 at 10:40 _a false sense of security at nasa integumentum
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb1/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=8064

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see the responses here - ( if ) you have questions regarding 3.08 / 3.07 / 3.03 . . .

v3.03 winnt CLi no longer linked at S@H ,any TA links for it? + a retired linux-gnu client comes back in v3.08

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=1022233

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originally - i had placed a mention - on the Social Boards regarding
signing "Send Your Name to Mars" (which was originally for 'kids')

[ http://spacekids.hq.nasa.gov/2003/nameform.cfm ]

NOTE: If you would like to search for your name . . .

[ http://spacekids.hq.nasa.gov/2003/namequery.htm ]


and there was 'The Mars Petition'

[ http://www.marssociety.org/content/marspetition.asp ]


& FYI . . .

'TEAM ENCOUNTER' has Associates & Affiliates with most
Space Agency's - including . . .

1. The Space Systems Laboratory (SSL) [University of Maryland] . . .

"The SSL was founded in 1976 @ Massachusetts Institute of Technology
by MIT faculty members Renee Miller and J.W. Mar and is dedicated to
making human beings more productive while working in space."

http://www.ssl.umd.edu/about/about.html

Current Projects -
http://www.ssl.umd.edu/projects/projects.html

2. National Space Grant Foundation (NSGF) . . .

" is a nonprofit, incorporated 501(c)(3) organization whose purpose is to
expand and enhance the capacity of the colleges and universities of the
United States of America to carry out education, research, and public
outreach activities in science, mathematics, engineering, and technology
and additional fields, related to space, aeronautics and Earth system science."

http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/sgfoundation/about.html

3. The 52 Space Grant Consortia [NASA] . . .

"Established by Congress in 1988 and implemented by the National Aeronautics
and Space Administration in 1989, the National Space Grant College and
Fellowship Program (also known as Space Grant) contributes to the nation's
science enterprise by funding research, education, and public service projects
through a national network of 52 university-based Space Grant consortia"

http://calspace.ucsd.edu/spacegrant/

4. and last - but not least - there is NASA itself . . .

http://www.nasa.gov/





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re: the "Eddington Limit"

" . . . looking at the MgII emission line"

and measuring the infrared spectrum of the light - and realizing that the
light was emitted 13 billion years ago - back when the universe was only
6% of its current age [Willott] . . . to stumble upon the *Fact*, that the
quasar contains a black hole one quadrillion (1,000,000,000,000,000)
times as massive as the Earth [UIST]

MgII ions - are atoms of magnesium with single electrons stripped off.
The magnesium ions are part of the gas around the black hole at the heart
of the quasar . . . [NRC]

and upon the realization - that we, as Earthlings . . .
are so minute a 'quantity' in the equation

Wouldn't that, to you - seem more "colourful" in itself . . .


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RE: Fermat's Last Theorem . . .

Fermat's conjecture [known as Fermat's Last Theorem] states that

n n n

The equation x + y = z has no non trivial integer solution for n > 2 [A. Wiles]



The abc conjecture implies the asymptotic form of the Fermat Last

Theorem, i.e. that there are only finitely many solutions to the equation


n n n

The equation x + y = z with gcd(x,y,z)=1 and n> 3.

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" . . . to intelligently assess the probability"

“... absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” [Rees]

" . . . that the number of civilizations in the galaxy that is capable and desirous of
communicating with others is the product of a rate of birth r times a lifetime L"

[N] = the number of coexisting, operationally intelligent, civilizations in the galaxy
[R'] < the rate of formation of Sun-like stars in the galaxy
[L] < the lifetime of the intelligent civilization
[Drake]


*IF* there is an obvious 'lack of evidence' - after a committed and exhaustive search
for an ETI . . .

Regarding "after a committed and exhaustive search" - who amongst us - has the
intelligence to assess the probability - that the 'search' may well continue well past
our children's children and so forth = without ever coming upon an "evidence" . . .

Though this may be 'true' - that we, nor our children will "discover" the ETI . . .

Truth be known - this is a beginning and one that is well worth the 'time and energy'
spent in regards to a search - in itself - one that we each can feel a pride in - being
@ the "birth" of the Project - and carrying on - without defeat, the idea of committment
and energy required - and without any expectations - safe the 'search' in itself being our
common denominator.

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

in the SETI Social Club - 'bumpin' a Comment / Thread to keep it on Top . . . ;)

Well, what can I say? Memory Lane...

We were young and good looking...

Well, perhaps not that good looking ;-)

I remember joining May 16th 1999 :-)

And it took me more than 8 years to wear astronaut coveralls for the first (and last? time) :-) :-) :-)

www.rsmp.org

Anyway, I never installed any server-farms to be up there with the credit gods; still looking for SETI and enjoying it...

Cheers & Carpe Diem !!!
Michael from Cologne

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G'Day to both Michael Foerster (it's been awhile eh Sir) and to Chris . . .

'ere's some more from 2002 . . .




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Clay Ruth (SETI) is interested in Butterfly's . . .
http://www.clayruth.com

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Subject: Butterflies Point to Micro Machines . . . Message 1 of 8
Posted by Richard W Lubrich Jr on Dec 13, 2002 at 10:18
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Butterflies Point to Micro Machines . . .

IMAGE: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38579000/jpg/_38579457_ent_spl_300.jpg
Copyright-Image by SPL 2002

QUOTES:

According to an article on BBC News, two researchers from Oxford
took highspeed photographs of an Admiral butterfly in a specially-
designed windtunnel to study how butterflies fly. The resulting research
brings insight into small-scale flight dynamics. Although the article
doesn't give an ETA on this, they expect to be able to build an aircraft
with a 10cm wingspan that will be either autonomous or radio controlled.
This will allow them to be used in rescue missions, cave exploration
and possibly even on Mars . . .

Tiny machines that fly like insects will soon be a reality.

That is the confident prediction of scientists who have just studied the
remarkable aerobatics of the butterfly . . .

It is known that insect wings produce 10 times the amount of lift achieved
by aircraft wings (per unit of area) . . .

Building tiny planes that were just scaled-down versions of the real thing
would never get off the ground . . .

It is only by mimicking the insect world that micro air vehicles will get
airborne efficiently. And while miniaturisation experiments are progressing
fast, engineers confess they still have much to learn from the animal world.

Copyrighted BBC News 2002

read more . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2566091.stm

>> Robotic insect takes to the air . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1270306.stm

>> Microspies: A web anthology . . .
http://www.airspacemag.com/asm/mag/supp/am00/uSPY.html

IMAGE: http://www.vectorsite.net/avuave3.jpg
*BlackWidow* Copyrighted AeroVironment 2002

IMAGE: http://adg.stanford.edu/mesicopter/imageArchive/images/mesicloud.jpg
Copyrighted Stanford University 2002

>> Micro Aerial Vehicle Resources . . .
http://www.nd.edu/~mav/links.htm

>> Micromechanical Flying Insect (MFI) Project . . .
http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ronf/mfi.html

IMAGE: http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ronf/MFI/FIGURES/flydime.jpg
Copyrighted Univ. of California at Berkeley 2002

>> MAVs & Mesicopters . . .
http://www.vectorsite.net/avuave.html

>> Micro Air Vehicles (MAV) . . .
http://www.darpa.mil/tto/programs/mav.html

>> Airfoil Comparison Tool . . .
http://soaring.cnde.iastate.edu/calcs/frames.shtml

>> Robots & Microcontrollers for the Future . . .
http://www.mrrobot.com/

>> Guide & Links to Free Robot Software
& Microcontroller Related Resources for the PC & Mac & Linux! . . .
http://www.mrrobot.com/downloads.html#SOFTWARE
http://www.mrrobot.com/downloads.html#DOCUMENTATION

>> Photuris & P. pyralis - (Genetic Analysis) Firefly DNA Research . . .
http://home.att.net/~y2kvault/more_alien.html
http://home.att.net/~y2kvault/firefly_notebooks.html

>> Dr. David Bohm - *Blink Theory* . . .
http://www.newagedirectory.com/ufo/blink_theory.htm

>> National Security Council & Foreign Technology Desk ( Pentagon ) . . .
http://www.geocities.com/chariotsotu/xfiles.htm

>> Section Symposia - Computer-Based Technologies for Studying Insects . . .
http://www.entsoc.org/annual_meeting/2001/Meeting%20Info/Section%20Symposia.htm


:-) HAVE A FIELD DAY FOLKS . . .


norse - TeAm AnandTech

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Subject: Re: Butterflies Point to Micro Machines . . . Message 6 of 8
Posted by Richard W Lubrich Jr on Dec 13, 2002 at 20:43
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here are some of those Links / Info . . . (but not THE Article)

>> Natural Structural Colour : Microstructures, rather than pigments,
are responsible for this colouration . . .

Selections from P. Vukusic, J. R. Sambles, C.R. Lawrence and R.J. Wootton

QUOTED:

This work introduces an additional element in the subject of Morpho visibility,
namely the viewing-angle over which they are visible. The discrete nature of
the Morpho multilayering within scale ridging enables two distinct effects;
both of which enhance the angular spread of light reflected from the wing.
Firstly, the presence of multilayer surfaces that show a distribution of tilts
with respect to the scale substrate creates a very large spread in angle over
which the characteristic blue light is reflected. Similar multilayer tilting,
increasing the angular spread of reflected light, has been found in the
reflectors of the crab Ovalipes (Parker 1998).

Secondly, the existence of a second layer of periodically ridged but highly
transparent glass scales above the layer of highly iridescent ground scales
causes strong diffraction.
This diffraction does not appear to serve the purpose of optical dispersion,
but acts to further spread the angle over which incident light is reflected. A
purely spectral reflection
from a mirror-like surface would severely restrict the solid-angle from which
the wing can be observed. Long range communication would in this respect be
limited. In the case of the Morpho butterflies studied here, incorporation into
the optical system of either a multilayer surface-tilt distribution, or
diffraction-assisted angle broadening using glass scales, or both, enhances
their overall angular visibility.


Structural colouration in butterflies has highlighted the very broad range of
microstructures that can be responsible for different colourations and optical
effects. It is in these butterflies, as with several other taxa, that a range
of different systems of microstructure has evolved to interact with light to
produce vivid colouration.

With a few exceptions the seat of colouration in butterflies, whether through
pigmentation or structure, lies in the scales that cover the surface of the
wings and body. Each scale is a flattened projection of cuticle from a single
epidermal cell within the epithelial layer that makes up the surface of the
wing.

The arrangement of scales on the wing resembles that of shingles on a roof with,
in most species, there being two distinct layers of different scales present.

Typical scale dimensions are of the order of 75 m m by 200 m m.

While the underside of scales are rather planar and featureless, their
interiors and their externally visible top-surfaces exhibit intricate
microstructure.

The cuticle material itself is a composite of rods of chitin set in a matrix of
proteins.

It has been shown to have a refractive index of approximately 1.56-1.58 at
visible wavelengths. The presence and concentration of melanin pigment dictates
the associated amount of optical absorption.

All scales, whether iridescent or not, display one of a variety of forms of
ridging extending longitudinally from one end of the scale to the other. Within
the ridging, fine structure may be developed in the form of lamellae or
microribbing. Often the ridges may be connected at intervals by a series of
arched structures referred to as crossribs. Spacing between ridges on a single
scale is often quite uniform, lying in the range 0.5 m m - 5.0 m m depending on
species and scale type.

In the scales of some species the regions between the ridges and crossribs are
hollow, exposing the scale interior with its pillar-like trebaculae which run
from the base of the ridges to the scale substrate beneath. As far as is known,
pigment other than melanin is laid into pigment granules in this region, while
melanin tends to be distributed in the scale structures themselves.

Cuticle-air microstructure plays a central role in a wide range of butterfly
wing colouration.

It can be responsible for many characteristics, such as narrow-band
reflectivity, ultra-high visibility, polarisation effects, ultra-violet
reflection, pointillistic colour mixing and specific angle dependencies that
are simply not accessible through pigmentation alone.

Certain biological purposes of this microstructure are apparent. Ultra-high
brightness colour with wide-angle visibility can effect excellent long range
intraspecific signalling.

On the other hand, low brightness and angle independent colour helps with
defence from predation. Interpreting reasons for UV reflection and strong
polarisation and colour mixing effects is only possible on appreciation of
parallel complexities in butterfly visual pathways.

It has been shown that some lepidopteran eye systems can be based on
pentachromatic photoreceptor arrays, some of which exhibit strong polarisation
sensitivity.

Three principle categories have been outlined by Scientists which broadly
classify the different wing-scale morphologies of structurally coloured
butterflies. (Non-iridescent) and androconial scales, which are also derived
from the same general scale template.

These classifications enable a comparison between the structurally generated
optical properties of different species. Sub-division of the three principle
classes provides a more rigorous classification. It facilitates a fundamental
understanding of the mechanisms behind butterfly colouration and it contrasts
the variations on several structural themes that Nature has used on some of her
most colourful creatures.



References -

Ghiradella H., 1991, Light and colour on the wing, Appl. Opt. 30, 3492-3500.

Huxley J., 1976, The coloration of Papilio zalmoxis and P. antimachus and the
discovery of Tyndall blue in butterflies, Proc. Roy. Soc. (B), 193, 441-453.

Vukusic P., et al 1999, Quantified interference and diffraction in single
Morpho butterfly scales, Proc. Roy. Soc. Lond. (B), 266, 1403-1411.

Herring P. J., 1994, Reflective systems in aquatic animals, Comp. Biochem.
Physiol. 109A, 513-546.

Parker A.R., 1998 A unique form of light reflector and the evolution of
signalling in Ovalipes (Crustacea: Decapoda: Portunidae) Proc. R. Soc. Lond. B,
265, 861-867.

Parker A.R., McKenzie D.R. and Large M.C.J., 1998, Multilayer reflectors in
animals using green and gold beetles as contrasting examples, J. Exp. Biol.,
201, 1307-1313.

Liu K., Shigley J.E., and Hurwit K.N., 1999, Iridescence colour of a shell of
the mollusk Pinctada Margaritifera caused by diffraction, Optics Express, 4,
177-182.

Land M.F., 1972, The physics and biology of animal reflectors, Progr. Biophys.
Molec. Biol. 24, 75-106,

Nijhout H.F., 1991, The Development and Evolution of Butterfly Wing Patterns,
Smithsonian Institute Press, Washington.

Ghiradella H., 1998, Hairs, Bristles and Scales, Microsc. Anat. Invert. 11A,
257-287.

Vukusic P., Sambles J.R., and Wootton R.J., in preparation.

Lawrence C.R., Vukusic P., and Sambles J.R., in preparation.

Huxley J., 1975 The basis of structural colour variation in two species of
Papilio, J. Ent., (A), 50, 9-22.

Vukusic P., Sambles J.R., and Lawrence C.R., 2000, accepted for publication in
Nature.

Sanders J.V., 1968, Diffraction of light by Opals, Acta Crst. A24, 427-434.

Morris R.B., 1975 Iridescence from diffraction structures in the wing scales of
Callophrys rubi, the Green Hairstreak. J. Ent., (A), 49, 149-154.

R. Vane-Wright, private communication.

Huxley J., 1976, The colouration of Papilio zalmoxis and P. antimachus, and the
discovery of Tyndall blue in butterflies, Proc. R. Soc. Lond. (B), 193, 441-
453.

Silberglied R. E., 1984 Visual communication and sexual selection among
butterflies, p207-223 in The biology of butterflies, Symposium of the Royal
Society of London, no. 11, Academic Press, London, eds. Vane-Wright R.I. & P.E.
Ackery.

Swihart S. L., 1972, Modelling the butterfly visual pathway, J. Insect
Physiol., 18, 1915-1928.

Kelber A., 1999, Why false colours are seen by butterflies, Nature, 402, 251


read more . . .

http://newton.ex.ac.uk/research/thinfilms/butterflies/morpho_paper.htm


>> of special note @ end of Page -
see a reference to 'Gaussian angle of incidence . . .'

Comparison of wavelength-dependent M. rhetenor single ground-scale reflectivity
in air [represented by solid circles] and in IPA [represented by crosses].

Solid lines represent a theoretical prediction using separately a ten-layer
and the dashed lines a five-layer model, each with a Gaussian angle of
incidence spread around ± 15° (FWHH of Gaussian distribution taken to be ca.
6° ). An Inset graph shows the imaginary refractive index component (k-value)
associated with a single M. rhetenor iridescent scale used in the calculation
of theoretical reflectance curves.

:-)
norse - TeAm AnandTech

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

ps - 'no longer 'valid' for mi to get into - most likely to re-start Page @ later date " . . . ( i ), Arecibo"

used to be on mi 'peoplepc' account with SETI ;(


edit - link

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

Yeah, and the screensaver was a big draw and didn't look like a Windows 98 clone.

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Account frozen...

the screensaver eh LOL! . . . 'ere's more of the Past 4 U . . .


BOINC @ Home . . .

<quote>
The next generation of the SETI backbone, called BOINC for the
"Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing" , is designed
to make it easier for other projects to generalize this unique science architecture.
[Amir Alexander]

. . . and All the News re: BOINC that's *FIT*

http://www.astrobio.net/news/article624.html

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Previous Users of the Day
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/user_profile/uod_list.html

User Profile: Roderick Bentham
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=1699


Congratulations *wyzzard* < User of the Day October 07, 2003

http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/images/user_profile/2709408.gif

The SETI@home User of the Day is Roderick Bentham.
Number of Results: 22387 CPU Time Per Result: 7 hr 38 min 57.8 sec
Last Result Time: Wed Oct 8 05:34:51 2003
Date Registered: Sat Jan 20 22:52:08 2001

. . . and as an afterthought > Plans for our transition to BOINC are here
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_transition_plan.html

the Norse (nobody) r(-:

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<*TIME* has come Today>

Forming the Backbone of a DC Network . . .
http://www.planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_092503.html
http://www.planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_091602.html
http://www.planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_Archive.htm

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DEBEH-LI-ZINI >

[NA-NETIN]
DA-A-HE-GI-ENEH
signed, < BIH-DA-HOL-NEHI

Navajo Code Talkers' Dictionary

the talker (nobody)

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JO-KAYED-GOH BAH-HAS-TKIH BILH-BIGIH A-TKEL-EL-INI BIH-NA-HAS-DZOH

Hozo-go nay-yeltay to

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Ah-tad tkin Yah-a-da-hal-yon-ih ha-dage

G AH-TAD GIRL
I TKIN ICE
GARRISON YAH-A-DA-HAL-YON-IH TAKE CARE OF

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TKIN - - -> We are known to be tireless Do ni-din-da-hi ol-yeh


TKIN - - -> Amotat Alon Do ni-din-da-hi ol-yeh BILH-BIGIH, ". . . with no infrastructure"

I met people who shared the same ideas as I did and wanted to work for peace and coexistence.

I found out that our similarities were sometimes greater than our differences and that we could

look together for ways to promote reconciliation and coexistence - making the quest for peace and

coexistence an integral part of my life.

. . . Hozo-go nay-yeltay to

the talker (nobody)


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REQUEST JO-KAYED-GOH ASK FOR

SECRET BAH-HAS-TKIH

UNIT DA-AZ-JAH (U)

WITHIN BILH-BIGIH

SABOTEUR A-TKEL-EL-INI TROUBLE MAKER

ZONE BIH-NA-HAS-DZOH

May we live in peace hereafter Hozo-go nay-yeltay to
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http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue7_10/vegh/#v2
http://www.c4i.org/

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The Intelligence Network . . .
http://www.intellnet.org/

the psywar society . . .
http://www.btinternet.com/~rrnotes/psywarsoc/fleaf/index.htm

navajo code talker . . .
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq61-4.htm

the bomb project . . .
http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/bombproject/Index.html

conspiracy chick . . .
http://conspiracychick.com/

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. . . the *Doc*
http://lubrichs.mine.nu/archives/00000032.html

. . . my Friend >
http://lubrichs.mine.nu/gallery/An-Artists-Document-Update-2/acd

. . . my WU WU :-)
http://lubrichs.mine.nu/gallery/An-Artists-Document-Update-2/acf

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" . . . a complete scrub" of the [Code Q]

"an effort to keep track of what the office was producing
and to make sure there was no contradictory information."
(NASA - Melissa Motichek)

<quote>
" . . . newly disclosed e-mails that include one proposal by a
midlevel employee at headquarters for a "complete scrub" of
the agency's safety office Web site to remove outdated or
wrong information . . . "



SOURCES:

NASA: www.nasa.gov
Columbia Accident Investigation Board: www.caib.us
Shuttle documents: www.nasa.gov/columbia/foia/index.html


www.nasa.gov/columbia/foia/index.html
Copyright 2003 NASA + First GOV




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~ Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence . . .
http://www.cseti.org/

~ CSETI Position Papers . . .
http://www.cseti.org/position/greer/csetibrf.htm

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Seti@home goes BOINC . . .
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1136
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Seti@home goes BOINC . . .
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=1106453

<quote> from SirUlli - TeAm AnandTech

Link - http://www.boinc.de/

i will translate the most thinks

Setiathome with the Data from Arecibo will be the first Project for BOINC,
and it will be run at Oktover 2003.

Seti@home BOINC will be the first analyse the 2 Bit Data and the new 8 Bit
Data from Arecibo also from the Reobserve.

Seti@home BOINC and the Classic Version will be running paralel a time,
and the Data will be stored in the same
Datenbank.

Astropule will start after Seti@home BOINC, because the Paul Demorest
is working at an different Project.

regards
Sir Ulli

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Have You seen the News . . .

Originally POSTED by Zain in SETI NEWS
http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1111

OFFICIAL SETI@home ADmin NEWS . . .

— July 21, 2003 —
Read about how the analysis of the reobservations data is coming
along in The Planetary Society's latest SETI@home update!

http://www.planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/newindex.html
Copyright 2003 The Planetary Society + SETI@home

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Lynn - there have been quite a few things that i didn't tell mostly everyone -
about goings - ons with my life . . . the following thread tells part of the story

i am setting up my new Studio - and will be contacting you shortly - and as
usual - things are quite *busy* for me these days . . . i have learned an
awful lot with the TeAm AnandTech Members - especially via the Forum
and their E-Mails / Phone calls - i only wish that i could have told the story
to the Synergy TeAm (the old one - that is) but that was then - and this is
now . . . see the *end* thread re: Chip Long's visit - he is from Atlanta also :-)

soon young lady . . . soon
[Hugs] < 2 you also >

Your Friend - the Norse R(-:

OT - *Updated* (Week July 21) <EDIT> Met - in person - w/ Mindseye -
of SETI over Weekend - DV will be avail. soon :-)

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=1048018

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101st Airborne Division + Special Operations Forces kill 2 Sons . . .

*Time Has Come Today* . . .

BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 22 — "Acting on a tip from an Iraqi that
Saddam Hussein's sons, Uday and Qusay, were holed up in a
palatial residence in the northern city of Mosul, United States
troops surrounded the house today and killed the two men in a
ferocious shootout that gradually shredded the walls providing
them cover."

"They died in a fierce gun battle. They resisted the detention and
the efforts of the coalition forces to go in there and apprehend them,
and they were killed in the ensuing gunfight and the attacks that we
conducted on the residence."
[Neil MacFarquhar - NY Times - International]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/23/international/worldspecial/23IRAQ.html?8bl
Copyright 2003 NY Times Inc.


~ guess there's going to be a *Feedback* Factor ~
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ADmin (or someone) 2 SAVE (???) The JOKE Thread

<quote>
"Subject: Re: You folks are, “The Best!” Message 4 of 4
Posted by steel on Jul 22, 2003 at 04:43

nevermind guys the way things are going we will probably get to have a 500th
post on the thread a FEW MORE TIMES
wonder if admin can save the other thread ?
<end quote>

<from> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb5/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=7832

The Reference Thread : ADmin (or someone) 2 SAVE (???)
Jul 21, 2003 at 06:23 crack one here . . . (503 messages) laughingboy
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb5/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=4163


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SYDNEY, Australia - " . . . World's 'Over-Farmed' Soil"

GPS - Satellite Driven Farming Equipment . . .

Q . Any *Farmers* out there [need the latest Tech ?] . . . :-)

<quote>
"An article at CNN discusses how Australian scientists are using GPS
to automatically drive tractors and other farming equipment on pre -
determined tracks. The technology is encouraged because it can prevent
water loss associated with the repeated compaction of soil from heavy
farming equipment."
<end Quote>



http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/07/18/satellite.tractor.reut/index.html

Copyrighted 2003 Reuters / CNN




the Norse (nobody) r(-:



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BOINC: FYI for those signed up for Astropulse Beta et al , , ,
[from Confused - TeAm AnandTech SETI]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=1092121

~ for those that are interested eh? ~


the Norse (nobody) r(-:



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" . . . exchanged material"
Q> anybody got the read on 'precisely' [?what?] the "exchanged material" was ???

"Earth and Mars exchanged material in the early days when life was forming on Earth"
[Mark Adler - NASA]


the Norse (nobody) r(-:

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Morgan - good Post Sir . . . seems there are some 'heated' Threads
occurring in the Science Forum here RE: Evolution et al . . .
Thanks for the heads-up (slashdot) - heats over there 2
Here are a few links to the News Releases from NAI + NASA

'Astrobiology Institute Announces New Teams'

" . . . 12 new teams would join the NASA Astrobiology Institute (NAI),
a national and international research consortium that studies the origin,
evolution, distribution and future of life on Earth and in the universe."
[Donald Savage + John Bluck - NASA News]

"We look to the near-term future of solar system exploration as well as
to the distant past of planet Earth"
[Dr. Rosalind Grymes - acting director of the NAI]


http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2003/jun/HQ_03208_astrobiology_teams.html

http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/
Copyright 2003 NASA

the Norse (nobody) r(-:

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Signal Candidate Page . . .

"Here you can find the latest information
about the most promising signal candidates
SETI@home has found so far"

'Current Candidate Information' + 'Related Articles'

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/candidates.html

Copyright ©2001 SETI@home
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*Congratulations* Gerard - User of the Day - June 28, 2003

You've made the grade Sir!!!

User Profile: Gerard J Gallagher
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=view_feedback&id=41830



the Norse r:-)
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a *source* of H2O for Mars Explorers . . .

good read on Mars & Links . . .

". . . More evidence of water on Mars"
A space craft has detected the best evidence yet of water on Mars

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3020946.stm

copyright 2003 BBC News

more . . .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2003/race_for_mars/default.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3033599.stm



enjoy . . .
the norse r:-)

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The Vatican unveils a 'virtual tour' . . .

"a new virtual tour of the Vatican's museums on the Holy See's website"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3019756.stm
http://www.vatican.va/

English: http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

enjoy . . .
the norse r:-)

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"Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make" . . .

'Maybe we are the Martians' by Helen Briggs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3050209.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/203924.stm

copyright 2003 BBC News



enjoy . . .
the norse r:-)
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"most computer hackers aren't criminals, they're more like cowboys"
Computer Hackers Gather in Pittsburgh. . .
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030607/D7RH4SQO1.html
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Black Dragon Society . . . Roger Herman, Bob Zoell & Friends
http://www.black-dragon-society.com/main.html
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BUSH Administration - abandoning the road map all-together?
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb5/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=7061

BUSH Administration - 'abandoning the road map all-together?'
http://slate.msn.com/id/2083360/
http://slate.msn.com/id/2083563/

Article references are to Racism, unusual protests in the Gaza Strip,
the terrorist threat index, al-Qaida operatives in Iran, and suicide
bombings in Riyadh - Saudi Arabia . . .

'ave a field day following each of the links - they seem to go on forever :-)

Excerpted from
"Appeals and Oranges"
By Eric Umansky
and "An Iran Plan"
By Joshua Foer

Copyrighted MSN Slate 2003
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Subject: Re: BUSH Administration - abandoning the road map all-together? Message 2 of 2
Posted by laughingboy on May 25, 2003 at 12:22
Reply to this message.
Nothing to do with the post.
Just nice to see you here, is all.
Good luck with the move. Hope to have you back amongst us soon, eh?
Regards, LB
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SETI@home Prepares to Send Out "Reobservations" Work Units

"Reobservations" Work Units Article by Amir Alexander
http://planetary.org/html/UPDATES/seti/SETI@home/Update_052103.htm

copyright The Planetary Society + SETI@home 2003
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Odin Draupnir^Sa

~Siege Perilous~ The Astronomer's Cave

astound the runes
of hidden exiles with
a sense of reservation and
has gone - in search of the Holy Grail

and if Memory
serves us well, what is
the speed of Thought ?

tambour

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Megacam

the neXt generation of Wide Field Imaging
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/Instruments/Imaging/Megacam/

May 13, 2003 at 23:30 What would you think of a Self-Repairing Computer ?
(4 messages) eno lacirotehr
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb5/bboard.cgi?action=viewthread&num=6758
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AREA 404
http://www.404lab.com/area404.asp

404?
http://www.shell.linux.se/test

http://www.pavleck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10383#10383
- thanks to egun (of SETI Synergy / China)

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NYC Leonardo da Vinci Exhibit Follows Artist's Entire Career
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/?articleID=3444

Digital Technology Used On da Vinci Works . . . (ABC News) / (The Louvre)
"Mere words cannot describe the breadth of subjects da Vinci covered" see here . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20030503_144.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/APWires/tech/D7QPS7FG0.html
http://www.louvre.fr/louvrea.htm

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_FBI to aid in investigations regarding 'Mesopotamian materials'

_quote - April 17
"It looks as if part of the looting was a deliberate planned action," University
of Chicago professor McGuire Gibson, at the Paris meeting (told BBC News)
"They were able to take keys for vaults and were able to take out important
Mesopotamian materials put in safes."
>Gibson is further quoted, (Associated Press) reporter: "I have a suspicion
it was organized outside the country, in fact I'm pretty sure it was," to which
he added that if a good police team was put together, "I think it could be
cracked in no time."
>In another report (AP) says that at a Department of Justice news conference
today - FBI Director (Robert Mueller) said that agents from the bureau are now
involved, with some apparently having been sent to Iraq to aid in investigations
there. -- Archaeological Institute of America

http://www.archaeology.org/magazine.php?page=online/news/iraq3

_Statement by Secretary Powell and other information -
(US State Dept 'International Cultural Property' website)
RE: "Iraqi Cutural Heritage"

http://exchanges.state.gov/culprop/iraq.html
_United States Department of State -

http://exchanges.state.gov/culprop/index.html

>"Task Force on the Cultural Heritage of Iraq"

_The AIA’s Declaration on the Protection of Iraq’s Cultural Heritage,
written in March, was communicated to the Department of Defense
(before the war began)

http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10214

_"Open Declaration on Cultural Heritage at Risk in Iraq"

http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10210

_"Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict"
(Done at the Hague) - 14 May 1954
(Entered in force) - 07 August 1956

http://www.icomos.org/hague/hague.convention.html

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re: all media's source of info


_"Task Force on the Cultural Heritage of Iraq"

_The AIA’s Declaration on the Protection of Iraq’s Cultural Heritage,
written in March, was communicated to the Department of Defense
(before the war began)

http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10214

_"Open Declaration on Cultural Heritage at Risk in Iraq"
http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10210

_"Iraq Sites at Risk"
(Updated Regularly)
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wolf0126/

_"U.S. - Scholars Spar on Looting of Artifacts"
(Philadelphia Inquirer) - 17 April 2003
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/5650160.htm

_"Protecting Ancient History in Iraq"
'Archaeologists Worry Antiquities, Artifacts Will be Lost in War'
(National Public Radio) - 20 February 2003
http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_978050.html

_"In the Shadow of War: Protecting Endangered Sites in Iraq"
(Archaeology magazine) - Jan/Feb 2003
http://www.archaeology.org/magazine.php?page=0301/etc/president

_"Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict"
(Done at the Hague) - 14 May 1954
(Entered in force) - 07 August 1956
http://www.icomos.org/hague/hague.convention.html


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http://www.setisynergy.com/cgi-bin/stats/setistats-active.cgi
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_the stochastic acceleration model + "camouflage" by interplanetary disturbances

http://research.hq.nasa.gov/code_s/nra/current/NRA-01-OSS-01-SECGI/winners.html#geo

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The Bomb Project
http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/bombproject/Index.html

[The Bomb Project is a comprehensive on-line compendium
of nuclear-related links, imagery and documentation. It is
intended specifically as a resource for artists, and encourages
those working in all media, from net.art, film and video, eco-
intervention and site-specific installation to more traditional
forms of agitprop, to use this site to search for raw material.
The Bomb Project has gathered together links to nuclear
image archives (still and moving), historical documents,
current news, NGOs and activist organizations as well as
government labs and arms treaties. It makes accessible the
declassified files and graphic documentation produced by
the nuclear industry itself, providing a context for comparative
study, analysis and creativity.]

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BOINC Wiki . . .

Science Status Page . . .

I remember Classic, and managed to get to the top 99.902%. But it took much huffing and puffing.

Will have been SETIing for 8 years on the 29th of this month -

A return to my Classic class entry

CONGRATULATIONS in Advance Sir!!!

My Entry to SETI Classic was No. 2455 - The SETI@home Class of Feb 29 2000

Eight Years Comin' Up like a Tachyon Starship . . . ;)
I have been crunching for SETI for over 7 years now.
Here is my entry to SETI Classic September 7, 2000

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