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 popandbob Send message Joined: 19 Mar 05 Posts: 551 Credit: 4,673,015 RAC: 0 
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An interesting result.. URL 14053 for the quad core AMD 10617 for the core 2 @2.0Ghz Look at the benchmarks... ................floating point....integer AMD quad . 1930.95 ......... 3965.48 Core 2 . . ..1619.2 .......... 4636.59 I thought Seti was floating point? if so then why was the amd 4000 seconds slower? ~BoB EDIT: another one that isn't a laptop... URL  Do you Good Search for Seti@Home? http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=888957 Or Good Shop? http://www.goodshop.com/?charityid=888957 ID: 641508 ·  |
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popandbob Send message Joined: 19 Mar 05 Posts: 551 Credit: 4,673,015 RAC: 0
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Take a look @ hostid=3787191 's RAC... 791 and climbing.... also a look at boincstats reveals that the host has on 2 days been granted 1500+ credit Not earth shattering but its better than my core 2 anyway.... (would be approx 770 credits a day if it was on 24/7) Do you Good Search for Seti@Home? http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=888957 Or Good Shop? http://www.goodshop.com/?charityid=888957 ID: 642734 · |
W-K 666  Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19685 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 
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Take a look @ hostid=3787191 's RAC... 791 and climbing.... also a look at boincstats reveals that the host has on 2 days been granted 1500+ credit Don't you mean a minimum of 770 credits/day per core. Looking at your computers results the min cr/hr is at AR=0.42, for results showing, and with two cores that would get RAC over 1200. At max cr/hr, VHAR's your RAC could be over 2000. Andy ID: 642847 · |
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Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0 
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Is anybody using Chickens cruncher with his/her Barcelona? Maybe this would be the best way to make a comparison. Couldn't a Chicken cruncher used with some previous AMDs be used with a Barcelona? ID: 643119 · |
Astro  Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
most probably the "generic SSE2" would work. Now it's called "KWSN 2.4 SSE2 AMD MB" ID: 643142 · |
Carlos  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 31371 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157
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Here is a good impartial review on the Barcelona. http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2007/09/where_does_amds_barcelona_real.php 
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popandbob Send message Joined: 19 Mar 05 Posts: 551 Credit: 4,673,015 RAC: 0
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Take a look @ hostid=3787191 's RAC... 791 and climbing.... also a look at boincstats reveals that the host has on 2 days been granted 1500+ credit I actually looked in boincview and I didn't know if it was for 1 core or 2... so I assumed it was combined... It said approx credit/hr was 32.09... Looking at my results it would appear that it is much higher than that....... BoB Do you Good Search for Seti@Home? http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=888957 Or Good Shop? http://www.goodshop.com/?charityid=888957 ID: 643887 · |
Andy Lee Robinson  Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 630 Credit: 59,973,836 RAC: 0 
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I made a script to pull this automatically, and reveal the new 'first' Barcelona on SETI: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8346 HE [AMD64 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 1] Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8350 Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8347 [AMD64 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 1] Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8347 [x86 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 1] Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8347 [x86 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 1] Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8350 Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8347 [AMD64 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 1] ID: 644162 · |
Philadelphia  Send message Joined: 12 Feb 07 Posts: 1590 Credit: 399,688 RAC: 0
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I made a script to pull this automatically, and reveal the new 'first' Barcelona on SETI: Looks like the Barcelona 83xx prices have leaked out Based on what WU results I've seen on SETI from the Barcelona 8xxx's, they are significantly over priced compared to the performance/price of the Q6600. ID: 644500 · |
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Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0
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I made a script to pull this automatically, and reveal the new 'first' Barcelona on SETI: Well that's not a very fair comparison. Q series are 1P chips compared to 4P Barcelona 8000's, and are desktop oriented products rather server/workstation oriented. That being said, it would be more fair to compare to Opteron 2300's to the corresponding 5300 series Intel chips. Also, don't get me wrong this in no way changes the fact that the Q6600 is an outstanding performance value for crunching SAH and most other BOINC projects in a GP Home 'WonderBox' machine, or that we AMD enthusiaists weren't somewhat disappointed with what we have gotten from the Barcelona launch so far. Alinator ID: 644530 · |
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Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0
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I made a script to pull this automatically, and reveal the new 'first' Barcelona on SETI: Of the 7 listed systems, only one is running a 16 CPU configuration. The others could be using 23xx Barcelonas to get their 8 CPUs. I suppose they're not available yet, but the pricing makes more sense. Joe ID: 644532 · |
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Andy Lee Robinson Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 630 Credit: 59,973,836 RAC: 0
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New one: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8347 It has an earlier id than the other Quads, and was a 1000MHz Celery a few days ago... Quite a leap! http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=3620911 Andy. ID: 645776 · |
Crunch3r  Send message Joined: 15 Apr 99 Posts: 1546 Credit: 3,438,823 RAC: 0 
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New one: That one is quite interesting. If you look at the results http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=159218296 The K10 gets beaten by a P4 HT @3.4GHz both using the stock app. Didn't AMD claim to have a 40% faster FPU than a Core2 at the same clock speed ? And now the K10 get's beaten by a P4 with HT enabled ... If i remember correctly a P4 3.4GHz (HT disabled) is as fast as a core2 at 1.86 GHz.  Join BOINC United now! ID: 645850 · |
mr.kjellen  Send message Joined: 4 Jan 01 Posts: 195 Credit: 71,324,196 RAC: 0 
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So, Now we know all about who?s coding endeavours, not that it isn't interesting, but it might have deserved it's own thread. How about going back on topic. Is anyone running a 'Chickened' Barcy yet? Any OCing going on? And while on the topic (AMD), what do you guys recon this to be? Phenom? /Anton Edit: Just noted the small eruption of posts just before this one...Calm down guys. Noone's thretening anyone!! 
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Francois Piednoel  Send message Joined: 14 Jun 00 Posts: 898 Credit: 5,969,361 RAC: 0
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So, thanks corrected url Phenom? who? Skulltrail D5400XS ID: 647681 · |
jason_gee  Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 
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So, Snakes, Skulls ? what next? oija boards, bone pointing and my hairy toe? :D "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 647929 · |
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Francois Piednoel Send message Joined: 14 Jun 00 Posts: 898 Credit: 5,969,361 RAC: 0
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So, I have a friend, he is american native, a "miwok", the native tribe that use to be in silicon valley, he did exactly the same remark as you did yesterday. i invite anybody to check about the miwok, they are very interesting people, and they have nothing to do with the western movies hollywood gave us in the 70s. Let's go back to the topic, anybody got cinebench or povray numbers on k10? who? ID: 647942 · |
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Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
Please, go to toyota, and ask them to deliver a 4runner with a Ford firmware for the engine management, and see the answer. if you can get this done, i ll agree with you and release all my soft for every CPU. So, you want martin to perform some task, and that'll get you to do what you've promised on many occasions to do already? You started with "I'll release my code". Then failed to deliver. So you promised the exact same thing again, then failed to deliver. When questioned about it, you then changed to "I'll release a Binary only", and have failed to do that. Now, it's I'll release an SSE4 only version. That ofcourse won't help any AMD users, but also won't help the majority of Intel users even if you make good on your word. Up[edit]un[/edit]til now it's just been "Ooooh, Look at me and my toys (both hardware and software) that you don't have and can't get" Bragging. ' So by now that we're using MB, you've promise two LF source codes, one LF binary, all of which at this point won't help squat, so you'll never be able to live up to your word on those. The Project has moved on and your opportunity is gone. Now we have a promise of the Source Code once again, but only in SSE4. This I actually believe you might do, but it won't be enough to make up for the past lost opportunities to save your credibility. ID: 647944 · |
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Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
<supplemental post to my previous one> If mods delete that one, this one too should be deleted as it's not a stand alone post. For clarity, the previous promises were made when the max instructions possible were SSE3. Which could be recompiled via your source code to help AMD users as well. It could have been examined to see what you did to get the performance enhancements (if they existed, as this is theoretical). ID: 647954 · |
kittyman     Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51531 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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I appreciate the efforts of Alex and Richard, who have engaged in some discourse with who? about his actual coding. The argumentative comments regarding events in the distant past are not so contructive. And as far as any future code not running on AMD, so be it. Alex doesn't optimize for Windoze, does he? He codes for Macs, which is where his interest and expertise lies. Who? codes for Intel cpus. So be it. And as far as the 'request' that any possible code error out with a specific message should someone try to run it on AMD....I am not sure that any of the offerings by Simon or Crunch3r offer any particular messages to that effect when someone downloads the wrong app for a particular platform. They are identified as platform/cpu specific on their download pages. So let's move on, shall we? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." 
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