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Message 630466 - Posted: 31 Aug 2007, 23:31:06 UTC

Actually at home right now (I usually don't come in on Fridays - for my own sanity). Still, just for the record even when I'm not in the lab I do check in from time to time and I noticed we were draining work. So before the queue ran to zero I started more splitters. This is good and bad: we're filling the ready-to-send queue, but at the expense of throttling the work we are able to send out. So be it. I'm keeping my eyes on it (when taking breaks from cleaning out my basement) so don't fret...

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Message 630491 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 0:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 630466.  

Actually at home right now ... So be it. I'm keeping my eyes on it (when taking breaks from cleaning out my basement) so don't fret...

Good to hear it, but enjoy your life outside of IT also!

I also can work from home. Much better to let the electrons do all the commuting. Saves my time! But beware 24 hour working!!

Hang in there and keep it smooth!

(And should you clear out your junk? Or should you keep it for whatever 'rainy day'?...)

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Message 630686 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 1:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 630466.  

Keep those splitters going. You got a giant group of crunchers coming over for September.
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Message 630699 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 2:08:42 UTC

Great work!! Many thanks for working on your off hours. I will putting in a 16 hour day tomorrow myself. Again, thanks.


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Message 630729 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 2:52:48 UTC - in response to Message 630466.  

....I'm keeping my eyes on it (when taking breaks from cleaning out my basement) so don't fret...

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I've got computer which have run out of work units and are idle. please rectify.
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Message 630734 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 3:07:52 UTC - in response to Message 630729.  

....I'm keeping my eyes on it (when taking breaks from cleaning out my basement) so don't fret...

- Matt


I've got computer which have run out of work units and are idle. please rectify.

It looks like you either have or are in the process of downloading work for all of your systems.

I've successfully downloaded 15 out of 16 Results in the last 8 hours.

We've been warned of download delays.

Just let BOINC do it's thing and have a nice weekend. (Do NOT Abort the downloads or Reset the Project!)
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Message 630893 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 9:44:34 UTC

I'm getting "system connect" problems on one of my computer and have had that problem on it now for almost 24 hours. My other comp seem to be getting wu's.

It worked perfectly for 4-5 days before and I've tried everything I can to fix it with no luck.

2007-09-01 11:34:40|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134
2007-09-01 11:35:02||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2007-09-01 11:35:02|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134: system connect
2007-09-01 11:35:02|SETI@home|Backing off 1 hr 53 min 58 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134
2007-09-01 11:35:03||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

There's right now 4 WU's in queue to be downloaded but nothing happens. Have asked in Q&A but no real help there.

If there's a short delay I have no problem with it but it's now been, as I said, almost 24 hours.

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Message 630946 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 11:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 630893.  

If your system's completely idle, you can always connect to another project to get some work. Seti has stated that they will not always have work available.

I'm getting "system connect" problems on one of my computer and have had that problem on it now for almost 24 hours. My other comp seem to be getting wu's.

It worked perfectly for 4-5 days before and I've tried everything I can to fix it with no luck.

2007-09-01 11:34:40|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134
2007-09-01 11:35:02||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2007-09-01 11:35:02|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134: system connect
2007-09-01 11:35:02|SETI@home|Backing off 1 hr 53 min 58 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20441.5798.13.5.134
2007-09-01 11:35:03||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

There's right now 4 WU's in queue to be downloaded but nothing happens. Have asked in Q&A but no real help there.

If there's a short delay I have no problem with it but it's now been, as I said, almost 24 hours.


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Message 630989 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 13:21:21 UTC - in response to Message 630946.  

If your system's completely idle, you can always connect to another project to get some work. Seti has stated that they will not always have work available.



But why is it trying to download work without succeeding?
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Message 631012 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 14:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 630466.  

Actually at home right now (I usually don't come in on Fridays - for my own sanity). Still, just for the record even when I'm not in the lab I do check in from time to time and I noticed we were draining work. So before the queue ran to zero I started more splitters. This is good and bad: we're filling the ready-to-send queue, but at the expense of throttling the work we are able to send out. So be it. I'm keeping my eyes on it (when taking breaks from cleaning out my basement) so don't fret...

- Matt


When you get back to work could you possibly look at this please, for several days I have been having trouble getting work units to download and the attached message are typical it takes an extremely long time once a WU is allocated to download it, sorry its so long but I have had the same problem over the past week. Thank you in advance but there is no hurry enjoy whats left of your weekend.

Pierre

01/09/2007 09:48:44||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.13 for windows_intelx86
01/09/2007 09:48:44||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
01/09/2007 09:48:44||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
01/09/2007 09:48:44||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
01/09/2007 09:48:46||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ [x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0]
01/09/2007 09:48:46||Processor features: fpu tsc sse 3dnow mmx
01/09/2007 09:48:46||Memory: 1023.48 MB physical, 1.88 GB virtual
01/09/2007 09:48:46||Disk: 39.06 GB total, 15.92 GB free
01/09/2007 09:48:47|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2968625; location: home; project prefs: default
01/09/2007 09:48:47||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-06-21 10:51:29)
01/09/2007 09:48:47||Host location: home
01/09/2007 09:48:47||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
01/09/2007 09:48:47||Reading preferences override file
01/09/2007 09:48:47||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.74MB
01/09/2007 09:48:47||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 921.14MB
01/09/2007 09:48:47||Preferences limit disk usage to 15.82GB
01/09/2007 09:48:51|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68
01/09/2007 09:51:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished download of file 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68
01/09/2007 09:51:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 2788 bytes/sec
01/09/2007 09:51:08|SETI@home|Starting 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68_0
01/09/2007 09:51:09|SETI@home|Starting task 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
01/09/2007 12:52:54|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
01/09/2007 12:52:54|SETI@home|Requesting 219 seconds of new work
01/09/2007 12:52:59|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
01/09/2007 12:52:59|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
01/09/2007 12:52:59|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
01/09/2007 12:53:01|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:53:23||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 12:53:23|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 12:53:23|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:53:24||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 12:54:23|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:54:45||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 12:54:45|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 12:54:45|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:54:46||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 12:55:45|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:56:06||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 12:56:06|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 12:56:06|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:56:07||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 12:57:06|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:57:29||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 12:57:29|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 12:57:29|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:57:31||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 12:58:29|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:58:51||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 12:58:51|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 12:58:51|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 48 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 12:58:54||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 13:00:41|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:01:03||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 13:01:03|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 13:01:03|SETI@home|Backing off 2 min 9 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:01:04||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 13:03:13|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:08:24||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 13:08:24|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: http error
01/09/2007 13:08:24|SETI@home|Backing off 11 min 37 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:08:25||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 13:20:01|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:20:23||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 13:20:23|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 13:20:23|SETI@home|Backing off 32 min 11 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:20:24||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 13:52:35|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:52:57||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 13:52:57|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 13:52:57|SETI@home|Backing off 45 min 17 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 13:52:58||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 14:22:29|SETI@home|Computation for task 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68_0 finished
01/09/2007 14:22:31|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started upload of file 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68_0_0
01/09/2007 14:22:36|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file 11ja07ad.8295.5798.8.5.68_0_0
01/09/2007 14:22:36|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 18053 bytes/sec
01/09/2007 14:22:40|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks
01/09/2007 14:22:40|SETI@home|Reporting 1 tasks
01/09/2007 14:22:45|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
01/09/2007 14:22:45|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
01/09/2007 14:22:45|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
01/09/2007 14:38:16|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 14:38:38||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 14:38:38|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 14:38:38|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 23 min 53 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 14:38:40||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 15:51:01|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:51:23||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 15:51:23|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 15:51:23|SETI@home|Backing off 1 hr 17 min 21 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:51:24||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 15:51:48|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:51:59|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
01/09/2007 15:51:59|SETI@home|Requesting 6553 seconds of new work
01/09/2007 15:52:04|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]
01/09/2007 15:52:04|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec
01/09/2007 15:52:04|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project
01/09/2007 15:52:06|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:52:09||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 15:52:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: system connect
01/09/2007 15:52:09|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 19 min 17 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:52:10||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 15:52:28||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 15:52:28|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23: system connect
01/09/2007 15:52:28|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:52:29||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 15:53:28|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:53:50||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 15:53:50|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23: system connect
01/09/2007 15:53:50|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:53:52||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 15:54:06|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:54:06|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:59:11||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 15:59:11|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93: http error
01/09/2007 15:59:11|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hr 23 min 26 sec on download of file 11mr07ac.30645.159353.7.5.93
01/09/2007 15:59:11|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23: http error
01/09/2007 15:59:11|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 15:59:13||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/09/2007 16:00:11|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 16:00:34||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
01/09/2007 16:00:34|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23: system connect
01/09/2007 16:00:34|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 11mr07ab.20509.23385.14.5.23
01/09/2007 16:00:35||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

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Message 631025 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 14:19:02 UTC

I've managed to get those 4 WU's I had in queue downloaded.

I manually hit "Retry now" a few times with each one of them until they got downloaded.

I did notice one thing... whenever it tried for up to half a minute it failed and it went back to countdown for the next try... if it did try for about 45 secs or more the download commenced and finished.

So to me it seems that the client just doesn't try long enough to get the WU's downloaded.
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Message 631038 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 14:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 630946.  

If your system's completely idle, you can always connect to another project to get some work. Seti has stated that they will not always have work available.


there is work available, we just can't download it. thanks for for your input...

It looks like you either have or are in the process of downloading work for all of your systems.

I've successfully downloaded 15 out of 16 Results in the last 8 hours.

We've been warned of download delays.

Just let BOINC do it's thing and have a nice weekend. (Do NOT Abort the downloads or Reset the Project!)


aborting the downloads helps rectify the sistuation, i was able to download the new work units. now this morning the computer has hung on the new workunit downloads.


I've managed to get those 4 WU's I had in queue downloaded.
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So to me it seems that the client just doesn't try long enough to get the WU's downloaded.


Now if you were a Mac you wouldn't have this problem, seems their timmer is set longer.
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Message 631096 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 16:15:05 UTC


Thanks Matt - Your Committment is to be Commended Sir!

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Message 631168 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 17:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 630989.  

If your system's completely idle, you can always connect to another project to get some work. Seti has stated that they will not always have work available.



But why is it trying to download work without succeeding?


Network problems, and other issues. See this thread.
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Message 631224 - Posted: 1 Sep 2007, 18:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 631025.  
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I've managed to get those 4 WU's I had in queue downloaded.

I manually hit "Retry now" a few times with each one of them until they got downloaded.

I did notice one thing... whenever it tried for up to half a minute it failed and it went back to countdown for the next try... if it did try for about 45 secs or more the download commenced and finished.

So to me it seems that the client just doesn't try long enough to get the WU's downloaded.


There is ongoing discussion about this in NC, see the 21 second timeout thread for more info.

EDIT...Oooops, RandyC, I missed your link to the thread. Sorry.
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Message 631604 - Posted: 2 Sep 2007, 0:31:15 UTC - in response to Message 631224.  


There is ongoing discussion about this in NC, see the 21 second timeout thread for more info.

EDIT...Oooops, RandyC, I missed your link to the thread. Sorry.


No problem...esp. since I didn't give the thread title.
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Message 631795 - Posted: 2 Sep 2007, 3:20:35 UTC - in response to Message 631025.  

I've managed to get those 4 WU's I had in queue downloaded.

I manually hit "Retry now" a few times with each one of them until they got downloaded.

I did notice one thing... whenever it tried for up to half a minute it failed and it went back to countdown for the next try... if it did try for about 45 secs or more the download commenced and finished.

So to me it seems that the client just doesn't try long enough to get the WU's downloaded.


That used to work for me, too. It hasn't lately. I've had WUs stuck trying to download for DAYS and hitting retry doesn't help, either. This machine managed to run completely out of work, despite having five projects active. I managed to fiddle with the client to get it do download some Einstein WUs.
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Message 631865 - Posted: 2 Sep 2007, 7:58:04 UTC

Hitting retry doesn't work for me any longer either. This is extremely annoying.
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Message 631870 - Posted: 2 Sep 2007, 8:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 631865.  

Hitting retry doesn't work for me any longer either. This is extremely annoying.


Increased the work buffer and watched how it tried by itself. Two of the wu's got past the 21 seconds but didn't start to recieve anything until after 2 min 30 secs.

There might be a problem with BOINC but to me this suggests an issue on the server side as well, it shouldn't take this long to send them out, should it?
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Message 631872 - Posted: 2 Sep 2007, 8:34:14 UTC

Hammering on the "Reset Project" button about a hundred times in the space of a half hour finally got a WU to download for me, and crunching underway.

Hell of a way to run a project.
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