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Message 617497 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 11:49:14 UTC
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A teammate has successful his WU´s finished, but he got zero Credit. Why? Is he using the wrong Chicken soup?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3653883


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Message 617501 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 12:00:12 UTC - in response to Message 617497.  
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(edit) - wrong answer, I misinterpreted the info.
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Message 617503 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 12:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 617497.  
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A teammate has successful his WU´s finished, but he got zero Credit. Why? Is he using the wrong Chicken soup?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3653883


Well, he's using:
R-[b]2.0[/b]|QxK|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe
- that's an old version, but I hadn't previously heard that there was anything particularly wrong about it.

The machine is showing some valid results, but the problems seem to have started when the validation comparisons (quorum) were made against v5.23/v5.57 stock apps (for Linux and Windows respectively).

Up until last week, my advice would have been to upgrade to Chicken v2.2B - they have, after all, been the best available since February - but it doesn't seem worth it in the middle of the transition to multibeam.

Under these particular circumstances, I would delete the app_info.xml file and reset the project. He'll lose any work actually in progress, but since he wouldn't have produced a valid result for it anyway, that's no great loss. He should be issued with the new 5.27 stock app, and any unstarted WUs in his queue should be re-issued (so no additional problem with 'no work sent').

Then, once everything has settled down again, consider re-optimising with the forthcoming (but not yet released) Chicken v2.4
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Message 617510 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 13:08:59 UTC

Unless there's a crunching error on his side, I would think that he should be able to post under the "Validation Error" thread and request credit.
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Message 617511 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 13:11:39 UTC - in response to Message 617510.  

Unless there's a crunching error on his side, I would think that he should be able to post under the "Validation Error" thread and request credit.


Yes, he could. But this does not solve his problem.


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Message 617512 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 13:19:49 UTC
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For whatever it's worth, I found this posting that suggests that you ran into noisey WU's, since you receive the same message on all the zero's except one.

It's interesting to note that the other wingmen didn't see them as noisey.

As far as the 'other one' I don't see anything wrong in the results that would suggest a problem.
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Message 617513 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 13:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 617511.  
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Unless there's a crunching error on his side, I would think that he should be able to post under the "Validation Error" thread and request credit.


Yes, he could. But this does not solve his problem.



Have a look at this WU:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=145846059

Here's a result calculated with setiathome_enhanced 5.23:

libboinc: setiathome_enhanced 5.23

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.825280
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name timing error
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrum 0.00027 0.00000
v_vChirpDataG5 0.03476 0.00000
v_vTranspose 0.02686 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00313 0.00000
Restarted at 15.34 percent.
Restarted at 30.73 percent.
Restarted at 46.13 percent.
Restarted at 60.72 percent.
Restarted at 74.19 percent.
Restarted at 88.07 percent.

Flopcounter: 7903636246842.220703

Spike count: 1
Pulse count: 1
Triplet count: 2
Gaussian count: 0

-------------------------------------------------------------

Now compare that one to your team mates result:

<core_client_version>5.8.16</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application

Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit 'Ni!' based on seti V5.15 'Chicken Good!'
Rev: (R-2.0|QxK|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe)
CPUID: 'AMD K7x Athlon XP (Barton)'
cpus: 1 cores: 1 threads: 1 cache: L1=64K L2=512K L3=0K
features: mmx 3Dnow 3Dnow+ sse
speed: 2095 MHz -- read megs/sec: L1=11801, L2=4943, RAM=1023

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.825280

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
.....8.......0.........1............0.....7898441262412
-------------------------------------------------------------

If you compare the signal counters it's now obvious that he does get validate errors.

If he didn't have any errors befor, i would recommend having a look at cpu temperature and testing for a failing memory stick.



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Message 617568 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 16:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 617513.  
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Hi,

ich have installed the new Chicken v2.2B.
My new Client results can you see here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3678821 but i dont have finished a WU until now.
I dont think that my Computerhardware does various Errors, bcause it works fine and it dont have any Problems doing my work or games or somthing other stuff.

I hope all my Problems got to be fixed with the new cleint now.

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PS: my English is not the best, but i do it best i can. :P
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Message 617571 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 17:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 617568.  
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PS: my English is not the best, but i do it best i can. :P


Dann schreib doch deutsch ;)

Du kannst Spiele nicht mit S@H vergleichen, denn das Huhn aka "Chicken" ist sehr cpu intensiv. D.h. im regelfall das die CPU heißer wird durch die benutzung von SSE etc.

Naja mal sehen, was bei den neuen WUs mit 2.2b passiert. P.S. heute abend gibt's sehr warscheinlich die neunen apps, dann solltest du noch mal updaten ;)

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Message 617580 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 17:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 617571.  
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Hi,

ich wusste ja nicht ob das geduldet wird und Englisch ist halt international.

Den Avatar habe ich geändert, es war doch der schönste der Welt ;)

Ich wollte eigentlich damit nur sagen, das ich meine Computerhardware schon unter Kontrolle habe. Arbeite in der IT branche und achte schon darauf das meine Komponenten funtkionieren und auch ausreichend Kühlung erhalten von daher schließe ich einen Hardwaredefekt im moment noch aus. Sollte sich daran nichts ändern werde ich das ganze System noch einmal überprüfen, bleibt mir dann ja auch nichts anderes übrig.

Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe und schöne Grüße
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Message 617584 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 17:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 617580.  

Hi,

Den Avatar habe ich geändert, es war doch der schönste der Welt ;)

Ja ich weiß ;) Aber leider lassen die Forum Regeln sowas nicht zu :-(


Ich wollte eigentlich damit nur sagen, das ich meine Computerhardware schon unter Kontrolle habe. Arbeite in der IT branche und achte schon darauf das meine Komponenten funtkionieren und auch ausreichend Kühlung erhalten von daher schließe ich einen Hardwaredefekt im moment noch aus. Sollte sich daran nichts ändern werde ich das ganze System noch einmal überprüfen, bleibt mir dann ja auch nichts anderes übrig.

Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe und schöne Grüße
Charly


Kein Problem ;)
Wenn es noch probleme geben sollte mit der neuen app. Dann melde dich hier ;)





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Message 617900 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 8:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 617584.  

HI,

guck dir das mal an Cruncher.

ich glaube es geht weiter, habe zwar auch ein Erfolgreiches Ergebnis gehabt aber auch schon wieder andere, obwohl ich das gleiche Egebnis wie jemand anders erzielt habe, wo ich keine Credits erhalte.

Result Page:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=8684021

und hier wieder eins der typischen Egebnisse:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=146318084

Der Prozessor ist es definitiv nicht! Dann mus mir wohl der Speicher einen Strich durch die Rechnung machen obwohl auch der alle Tests bisher bestanden hat. Und du meinst jetzt das aufgrund der Spikes etc. ein Hardwaredefekt vorliegen muss?

Viele Grüße
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Message 617949 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 11:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 617900.  

Habe jetzt den Speicher ausgetauscht.

Sind zwar jetzt nur noch 1 GB aber wenn das läuft dann ist es mir das wert.

Viele Grüße
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