How do you feel about this, people? I mean knowing that China has Ballistic Missles capable of striking the United States with nuclear warheads. Is anyone even a little bit concerned about this?

That depends. How many of their people is China willing to risk for one of ours?

Complete eradication of both countries would be about five Americans to one Chinese. But China isn't capable of doing that to the U.S. The U.S., however, is capable of doing that to China, LONG after everything they had to throw at us was thrown.

It's kinda like Rushmas. Long after they had spent all that they had to present us with "gifts," we could keep presenting them, and presenting them, and presenting them, and presenting them with similar gifts.

Mmmmmmm, more of that sweet, sweet, eyejuice...

Heheheh. Speak to Fuzzy about that.

I'm somewhat concerned. China is building some sophisticated weaponry, is what this shows. Would America go to war over Taiwan right now? I doubt it.

Heheheh. Speak to Fuzzy about that.

We share our limited stash. 8^]

I'm somewhat concerned. China is building some sophisticated weaponry, is what this shows. Would America go to war over Taiwan right now? I doubt it.

Probably not. But so what? I wouldn't go to war over Taiwan, EVER.

How about over Taiwan AND Japan? Just curious as to your foreign policy. ;)

How about over Taiwan AND Japan? Just curious as to your foreign policy. ;)

Eh, I don't know. Going in to WWII was the right thing to do, but I don't know about Japan.

Heheheh. Speak to Fuzzy about that.

We share our limited stash. 8^]

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Probably not. But so what? I wouldn't go to war over Taiwan, EVER.

We couldn't go to war with with anyone, even Mexico right now. Almost all of our available troop strength is in Iraq and the state of our equipment is in a shambles because our maintance is so far behind due to the conditions over there. At least we have a well armed population for our own defense, but if we should need to go somewhere else right now, we'd be in big doodoo. Also, even at best the Chinese would out number us 20:1 and they are much closer. The nuclear option would be a disaster since they, the Chinese, have the capability of burn all of our major cities to the ground, four times over.

Probably not. But so what? I wouldn't go to war over Taiwan, EVER.

We couldn't go to war with with anyone, even Mexico right now. Almost all of our available troop strength is in Iraq and the state of our equipment is in a shambles because our maintance is so far behind due to the conditions over there. At least we have a well armed population for our own defense, but if we should need to go somewhere else right now, we'd be in big doodoo. Also, even at best the Chinese would out number us 20:1 and they are much closer. The nuclear option would be a disaster since they, the Chinese, have the capability of burn all of our major cities to the ground, four times over.

Probably not. But so what? I wouldn't go to war over Taiwan, EVER.

I agree with that assessment, Dennis. I also think the only reason that China hasn't invaded Taiwan has nothing to do with military might.

I think that the Chinese are hooked on their economic expansion and don't want to break off any trade relations.

But if and when they gain their economic goals, Look Out! And that's why their quiet buildup of sophisticated subs and ICBM missiles concerns me. While we focus on Iran, China is probably building a huge nuclear arsenal in the background.

...and who do you think is buying a hugh percentage of U.S. Treasury Bonds to finance our governments "borrow and spent" policies...Zimbabwe? The Chinese own us...the Chinese would never attack us...they'd foreclose.

...and who do you think is buying a hugh percentage of U.S. Treasury Bonds to finance our governments "borrow and spent" policies...Zimbabwe? The Chinese own us...the Chinese would never attack us...they'd foreclose.

I hear you, but don't panic. The Chinese don't own you, yet. I'll mention two things. First, China has enjoyed several trade advantages especially concerning their currency, but the rest of the world will tighten that up to level the playing field. Secondly, the United States has a proven history of clearing up huge deficits. America is known for this: for changing presidents and cleaning up the national debt. President Gerald Ford was one of the great presidents in that regard.

So yes, it's getting worse by the day, but America is still in the game. A great number of countries still invest in the American dollar. Twenty years ago, people had the same fear about Japan buing the USA out. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now, imho.

...and who do you think is buying a hugh percentage of U.S. Treasury Bonds to finance our governments "borrow and spent" policies...Zimbabwe? The Chinese own us...the Chinese would never attack us...they'd foreclose.

I hear you, but don't panic. The Chinese don't own you, yet. I'll mention two things. First, China has enjoyed several trade advantages especially concerning their currency, but the rest of the world will tighten that up to level the playing field. Secondly, the United States has a proven history of clearing up huge deficits. America is known for this: for changing presidents and cleaning up the national debt. President Gerald Ford was one of the great presidents in that regard.

So yes, it's getting worse by the day, but America is still in the game. A great number of countries still invest in the American dollar. Twenty years ago, people had the same fear about Japan buing the USA out. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now, imho.

There are several differences between now and then. Japan mainly sold cars, television/electronics, and cameras. Now almost everything on the shelves, except cars is "Made in China." And everytime we talk to the Chinese about their undervalued currency they tell everyone to jump in the lake and mine our own business, which we have no other option but doing. They currently have us by the gonads. The last thing the Chinese want is to float their currency, and why should they.

Que sera, sera...

Que sera, sera...

Which is also the title of a simple little song from the '50s by Doris Day, that I've always liked.

Que Serra, Serra

We couldn't go to war with with anyone, even Mexico right now. Almost all of our available troop strength is in Iraq and the state of our equipment is in a shambles because our maintance is so far behind due to the conditions over there.

The nuclear option would be a disaster since they, the Chinese, have the capability of burn all of our major cities to the ground, four times over.

We do? Nah, the Rushmas thing was done to death. I don't plan any other Rushmas threads or competitions.

Que sera, sera...

Which is also the title of a simple little song from the '50s by Doris Day, that I've always liked.

Que Serra, Serra

I have always preferred this version: Que Serra, Serra - Sly & The Family Stone

...and who do you think is buying a hugh percentage of U.S. Treasury Bonds to finance our governments "borrow and spent" policies...Zimbabwe? The Chinese own us...the Chinese would never attack us...they'd foreclose.

Que sera, sera...

Which is also the title of a simple little song from the '50s by Doris Day, that I've always liked.

Que Serra, Serra

I have always preferred this version: Que Serra, Serra - Sly & The Family Stone

Sweet! I've never heard this gospel-style cover of it. ;)


I like 'em both.


Thanks, Mystique!