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Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0
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. . . exercisING undue authority The uses of "a well modulated meow" Freedom of expression and independent journalism are among the pillars of a democracy. But policy choices cannot be settled merely by the pronouncements of those in authority BOINC Wiki . . .Science Status Page . . . |
Beethoven Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0 |
Let's face it, Richard: Things are that way in Yemen, because Yemeni men like it that way. They probably laugh at you, think you're a wimp. And to play the Devil's Advocate here, please don't tell me that you've never had the urge to smack a woman one (or a guy, for that matter). In our culture, we can't. And there are some people who take full advantage of that by using a nasty tongue with impunity, knowing exactly that. What do you do when a woman pushes your buttons, gets right under your skin to abuse you verbally until you can't take it anymore? Leave the house? Yemeni men laugh at that! "Undue"? It's always been that way there. You want to take something away from them. I don't think it will sell in Yemen. And that's the flip side of the coin. ;) |
cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3
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I can not take away the suffering of others but Yemeny women are not so poor of soul. What about those that stand up and make a difference. The world is not perfect. In the western world we are quite lucky. A Different Beat.... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
It is in the nature of hierarchical power structures to become opaque and foster internal secrecy while seeking transparency from others in order to exercise maximum control. The TSA in a nutshell... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Beethoven Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0 |
It is in the nature of hierarchical power structures to become opaque and foster internal secrecy while seeking transparency from others in order to exercise maximum control. <Sings> (To the tune of, "You're in the Army now"): You're in the Matrix now, You're not getting out, no how... Da Da Da Da Dat, Da Da Da Dat, You're in the Matrix now! (LOL) |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Let's face it, Richard: Maybe Yemeni men are just monopolistic cowards. |
cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3
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But if they were just like you or me they would be just as scared to not be in control.. No Yemeni started our race. Men do so many bad things.. Some are worse than others but no individual is beyond saving... Why are we so obsessed with the Yemen?
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Beethoven Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0 |
Let's face it, Richard: Monopolistic, no doubt. But more brutes than cowards, I think. ;) |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Why are we so obsessed with the Yemen? Yemen is probably one of many countries in the world where women are treated that way (as alleged in the article). It's a cultural thing. That is, that it's still not considered to be such a bad thing to do. |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Let's face it, Richard: If you have a society where men force their women to cover from head to toe, there's some sort of fear facor at work. The fear of other men actually seing the faces of their women. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79
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Ummm ... to be blunt, that assumes the woman would be attractive to other men. Some are. Some ... probably not. :( Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Beethoven Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0 |
Let's face it, Richard: Um, I think you misunderstand the practice A/C, with respect. The women are covered up to preserve the intimacy of their appearance for their husbands' enjoyment, I think. It seems more of a property right to me, than any kind of cowardice. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79
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If you have a society where men force their women to cover from head to toe, there's some sort of fear facor at work. The fear of other men actually seing the faces of their women. There's probably a fine line between the enjoyment/property right and the fear of another man seeing her face. I am trying to remember if I have been told another interpretation of this practice, whether by my Muslim friends or anyone else. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Beethoven Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0 |
If you have a society where men force their women to cover from head to toe, there's some sort of fear facor at work. The fear of other men actually seing the faces of their women. There is a fine line between the two, and I think it's a question of cultural context. This seems to be a fundamentalist trait. Orthodox Jewish women wear wigs in public for the same reason I gave. The same with the Quaker women in Pennsylvania and their bonnets; though modesty per se, to be 'plain', is a part of that too. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79
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[There's probably a fine line between the enjoyment/property right and the fear of another man seeing her face. I've heard about the wigs. Mostly among Hasids, correct? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Ummm ... to be blunt, that assumes the woman would be attractive to other men. Ugly or not, for many men it might be all they'll ever get. :( |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Ah yes, now that is so much more humane. Gee, think what would happen if some woman took off her vail. All that intimacy, gone forever. |
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AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0
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Inhumane treatment of women in more countries |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Why are we so obsessed with the Yemen? Because it suits their agenda? It wasn't so long ago that right here in america women used to dress 'modestly' too... I don't recall that being a 'forced' issue but rather a 'personal' issue... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Knightmare Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0
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Why are we so obsessed with the Yemen? But then again....not all THAT long ago....any woman wearing a dress that was short enough to show her ankles was considered a tramp. Times change, Jeffrey. You either deal with it, or you don't. Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
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