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Message 588780 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 21:18:31 UTC

Feel the Love of almighty Allah!!! :)
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Message 588774 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 20:52:53 UTC - in response to Message 588456.  

Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: "Radical Islam" or "Islamic Fascism". They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), "Terrorists". In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they don't! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.

This is kinda funny. It bothers this guy when someone else uses what he considers overly broad generalizations, yet he seems more than willing to do the same thing. For example, it bugs him that the term "terrorists" is used to color "all people who object the government policy overseas," yet it's OK for him to state that all Americans that watch the news "believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they don't!"

He does this throughout. And it's all just empty rhetoric. Idiot.

Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.

That's funny too, as it seems he isn't educated enough to understand the difference between self-serving political rhetoric "America is a democracy," and reality: the U.S. is a constitutionally limited representative republic, and has never been a democracy.

You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed...

Oh boy, and here's a false dichotomy.

Thank jeebus this guy took the time to post.
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Message 588750 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 19:41:32 UTC
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If you find my initial post 'hard to read': Now you know how Muslims feel... ;)

"No reason have we why we should not put our trust on Allah. Indeed He Has guided us to the Ways we (follow). We shall certainly bear with patience all the hurt you may cause us. For those who put their trust should put their trust on Allah." ~ Qur'an 14:12


(I still welcome comments, but please try to 'stay on topic', and please try to 'keep things civil'. Thank you.)
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Message 588525 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 11:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 588523.  
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LOL, Irony :D nice underlining Jeffrey [ put it back :P ]
"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.
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Message 588523 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:59:31 UTC
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"We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:"


Then the all powerful can shove it...I want no part in His hate mongering and tricksterisms.

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Message 588520 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 588509.  
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Quotes from the Koran

He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. ~ Qur'an 3:7 ;)
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Message 588518 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:48:59 UTC - in response to Message 588517.  

Pity them, their families, the 'politicians' (i.e. dictators, religious leaders and our polticians too...) ... for they know not what they do.

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Message 588517 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:40:56 UTC
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Quotes from the Koran

From the people who admire children...

who blow themselves up with explosives...

killing innocent people...anywhere.



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Message 588511 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:14:01 UTC - in response to Message 588466.  

Very interesting version of " the truth ".

Does this person happen to be an Islamic leader? I still haven't heard many ( or any ) of the leaders of the religion denouncing the actions of the " believers " of Islam that commit murder.

Blowing up a Cafe that is situated in the middle of a busy street is " self defense "?? I just don't seem to be able to understand how that works.


Just my 2 cents:
Some things I see that get forgotten, having myself been of christian background and having lived/worked/studied with some muslims, jewish, buddhists and atheists are these:
- There are a lot of crackpots about, whatever the religion, creed etc...
( find some mental health statistics for that one )
- Having a conscience is not naturally in born, but learned and rare
( developmental psychology 101 )
- Books don't kill people, people kill people
( see book burning & censorship as a social control measure )
- Politicians are in the business of social engineering
( see Welfare state vs Welfare Capitalism vs Socialism etc...)

In essence none of this is new, and I am pretty surprised at the fortunate, educated, few cannot take pity on the rest for the terrible strife around, and realise that the human race is no further evolved than the first homosapiens to walk the planet (same brain size etc...)

As I said, just my 2 cents.


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Message 588509 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:04:41 UTC
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Quotes from the Koran


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Message 588483 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 8:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 588456.  
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Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace.


Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.

It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little.

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!


I pray for peace every night when I go to bed. Maybe MY god will help us all.

Islam ia a peaceful religion...... But not for the zealots that believe they have to kill all who do not believe in 'their' religion.

The laws of physics and how the towers fell.......This starts to sound like an Oklahoma City thingy. I am not a conspiracist by nature, but OC has a lot of problems engrained in the official story, much as the JFK assasination does.

When the freedom is taken away little by little......It's happenning every minute that you breath, my friend. Live well, sing loud. It's all you're gonna have soon. Between the illegal immigrants pouring into this country and the politicians running it, I don't konw who's gonna take total power first. The 'white law abiding American folks' are going to become a minority. Mebbe then we'll get the benefits afforded to those who are now percieved to be a 'minority'. Only question is.....who's gonna pay for it at that point? Not the Mexican illegals working for a few bucks an hour and sending it all back home!!

Another uprising by the populace required to take power back into the hands of the people? We better do it before they take all our guns away.

At least we can still have kitties........so far.
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Message 588472 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 8:04:05 UTC
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I already see where this is going:

The Qur'an is evil...
Islam is a religion of hate...
Muhammad was a pedophile...
Muslims are all murderers...


There... Now that we've got the 'standard rhetoric' out of the way, can we please comment on the content of the post... Thank you... ;)
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Message 588466 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 7:24:55 UTC

Very interesting version of " the truth ".

Does this person happen to be an Islamic leader? I still haven't heard many ( or any ) of the leaders of the religion denouncing the actions of the " believers " of Islam that commit murder.

Blowing up a Cafe that is situated in the middle of a busy street is " self defense "?? I just don't seem to be able to understand how that works.
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Message 588456 - Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 6:29:33 UTC
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I found this post on another message board and thought it to be very revealing... Feel free to comment, but please try to keep things civil... ;)



I am a white-male american, and I happened to come across your website. I see you had a lot to say, and seem to have gotten people extremely frustrated. There is only one problem though, are you aware that your facts are not facts? It is obvious you are only doing this to get muslims to act a certain way, so you have every reason to justify every bad thing you ever said about them. I (personally) am not muslim, but know a little bit about the religion, and it is surely not what you and the media make it out to be.

Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: "Radical Islam" or "Islamic Fascism". They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), "Terrorists". In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they don't! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.

America uses the term terrorist only to keep emotions and fears of Americans alive. The government wants all americans to support the war they are planning in the middle east, and need something that will make all Americans emotionally support them. Do you even know what a terrorist is? The media claims a terrorist is anyone who fights to support their country (against America), anyone who opposes america, anyone who opposes domination of the world (from America), or an act of violence which is claimed to be justified by radical religion. Americans around the U.S. are being brainwashed, and its a shame that some of the freest, finest people in the world can be easily manipulated. Ariel Sharon seemed to have a definition of terrorism, "One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation". Is Sharon calling he, and his supporters terrorists? Because if I am not mistaken, it is Israel who specializes in killing innocent civilians, even children. There is horrific evidence of Israel doing such things, and its sad that America (the land of the free, and home of the brave)supported terrorism! Sharon also believes, "If it is strictly military combat, it is not terrorism". So once again, is he calling himself a terrorist? Because if he is trying to criticize Hezbollah, he has no argument, since Hezbollah only has confrontations with the greedy Israeli Army. So once again, he and everyone who agrees with him, is proven wrong!

Now America's story is they are only trying to bring democracy to the world, and will do it one country at a time. They do not tell you what they are actually doing overseas, and what is driving the muslims crazy enough to act a certain way. If I kill your brother, would you now wish death upon me? America does not show the killing of the brother, they only show the reaction. When they show the reaction, they use it in such a way to show that muslims are Radical and will kill for no reason. Yes, it obviously is meant to scare Americans and keep supporting the policy. Islam only opposes those who support the devil or evil. If muslims are acting a certain way, it is not because they interpret their books that killing people is ok. The Qur'an does not wish death to America, and surely only opposes the forces of evil. Since Islam is a peaceful religion, think about how much evil it will take to get them to act this way. America must be hiding a lot, but its a common thing for people overseas to say America is raping muslim women and torturing muslims. Once again, with that happening, self defense is terrorism, right?

Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.

Last thing I would like to say is your whole page on muslims around the U.S. and around the world is invalid. Once again, you are only doing this to frustrate muslims enough to say something you want them to say, or act a certain way because they feel they are hated. It is wrong what you are doing, and if you are part of any religion, lying is a bad thing, and you will never enter the gates of heaven for as long as you stay the way you are. Keep the hatred in your heart, since the lord knows what is right! Let them deal with the devilish, false hatred you have in your heart. You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed... Congratulations, and to all Americans who read this, you are all very special people, and I am not Anti-American! It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little.

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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