Message boards :
Technical News :
Merday Morn (Jun 11 2007)
Message board moderation
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · Next
Author | Message |
---|---|
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
I don't speak the language. What is a "WU"? You can also increase the "Connect to the Internet every xx days" to something above default (.1) - I set it to 4.5 days - this works with all versions of the client, back to 5.4.8... (that I know of...) . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
Ricky@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 4 Sep 04 Posts: 453 Credit: 1,586,857 RAC: 0 |
I do agree with you 99.9% and I do feel bad that I can't send money. I can control the amount of my spending on bills to the point of shutting down my PC when there is no work. But I do run other projects as well so I keep it on for them. I never said I thought S@H was going to stay up 100% and I just picked the last 2 months as a sample. Anyway, I am just venting so don't pay any mind to me. |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
Back on point, have there been changes at CentralCommand that would cause the following... May 23, my computer gets oodles of ghosts, which are wu's that are assigned to my computer but were never downloaded. These ghosts are timing out and seem to be going away. But last night (6/11-12) I now have oodles of new WU's downloaded to my computer. What is strange (apart from never usually getting so many because my queue is set to the minimum) is that three of them were started and now, including einstein, I have 4 wu's being time-sliced. This seems like something is jerking my settings and/or there is a boinc bug seti is revealing (to me at least). Comments? |
dmb06851 Send message Joined: 3 Dec 03 Posts: 5 Credit: 456,478 RAC: 0 |
Thank you to those of you who have answered my question. If version 5.10 is a "B" model I shall leave well alone. Why do they call it a "client"? A client is a customer. Equal rights for equal responsibilities. Equal opportunities for equal abilities. |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
@PhonAcq: They enabled auto-resends finally. Since a ghost doesn't count as new work, if you had a bunch assigned, when you finally get through to the scheduler you will pick up the ones which are still eligible for crunching (ie, no quorum yet, the rest get canned), which can make it appear you exceeded your cache setting for that one contact session. Depending on how fast the DL's arrived, BOINC might start one, then get another with a shorter deadline, and swap to that one and so forth. This ends up with a bunch running at the same time until the scheduling jam gets cleared from the ghost resend. HTH, Alinator |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
Thank you to those of you who have answered my question. The part of BOINC you run on your host is called the 'client' for the exact reason you mentioned. It's the 'customer' of the various projects you attach to. It's roots are in the client/server model the BOINC system uses. The part that actually does the work is called the science application for obvious reasons. ;-) HTH, Alinator |
Heflin Send message Joined: 22 Sep 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 640,242 RAC: 0 |
I think as people get tired of trying to get work or upload/download they will look to other projects. Like the infomercial... SET IT and FORGET IT! That is one of the great BEAUTIES of BOINC. Who cares if there is no work today or tomorrow, when there is work my computers will HELP on a non-interference basis. I have 2 remote machines I've setup & NEVER been back to! They do what they can when they can. One machine is turned of for months at a time, but when it is on & not being used it helps out. If the operator leaves the machine off for a week, oh well. That is the project-side beauty of the BOINC architecture: if I don't return a result in a 'reasonable' time, the WU can be sent to others with no significant harm to the project or me (ok, well I don't get some credits, it's not like I'm loosing money or even MY TIME!). I try to attach each computer to at LEAST TWO (2) projects with drastically different SHARES set (i.e. 100 for SETI, 10 for #2, 1 share for #3 project). If project #1 runs out of work or has server problems, project #2 can pick up the slack. Same for project #3. Are you 100% busy, every single second at work? CPUs need coffee breaks and vacations too ;) SET IT & FORGET IT !! SETI@home since 1999 "Set it, and Forget it!" |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
@PhonAcq: Thanks. I noted that the 'new' wu's have much later deadlines, if that matters. I've been reducing my resource allocation to seti due to all this backroom chaos; it will be interesting to see if all these wu's actually meet the new deadline, given that einstein is taking a time slice. HTH ?= {hit the head?, hollar to hilda?, honor thy husband?} |
Modesto Send message Joined: 4 Jul 04 Posts: 47 Credit: 321,752 RAC: 0 |
HTH ?= {hit the head?, hollar to hilda?, honor thy husband?} Hope That Helps |
Andy Lee Robinson Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 630 Credit: 59,973,836 RAC: 0 |
I just made a little graphic to illustrate the boinc client/applications/wu model... |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
AFAIK (as far as I know), HTH is "happy to help". YMMV (your mileage may vary) |
BigEfromLC Send message Joined: 24 Jul 06 Posts: 12 Credit: 2,697,926 RAC: 0 |
AFAIK (as far as I know), HTH is "happy to help". YMMV (your mileage may vary) WTF? |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
AFAIK (as far as I know), HTH is "happy to help". YMMV (your mileage may vary) Fondly quoting MSattler: "Where's the Fish?" TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13727 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Seems better to be without for a week instead of wasting time trying to get work uploaded or downloaded and reported or whatever. Considering the squealing that goes on when the system is down even if only for a few minutes, better to have it up & provide some (even if extremely sporadic) work than none at all. As it is, many of the problems tend to be load related. So while things might be running nicely, once the system gets loaded up again the problems make themselves known. Such things are always so much fun to track down. Tweak & restart, tweak & restart. And so it goes. Grant Darwin NT |
Kenn Benoît-Hutchins Send message Joined: 24 Aug 99 Posts: 46 Credit: 18,091,320 RAC: 31 |
And I always thought WTF meant Wand To Flamenco! AFAIK (as far as I know), HTH is "happy to help". YMMV (your mileage may vary) Kenn What is left unsaid is neither heard, nor heeded. Ce qui est laissé inexprimé ni n'est entendu, ni est observé. |
Ivailo Bonev Send message Joined: 26 Jun 00 Posts: 247 Credit: 35,864,461 RAC: 2 |
Jocelyn has been stoped, and we have 'The database server is not accessible' on Database status... |
Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
Jocelyn being down is no big surprise, given what Matt said here. As far as the database status message goes, ignore it. Sidious is the one which really counts and the monitor must not have been updated to reflect he's the primary BOINC DB server at the moment. Alinator |
Drunkula Send message Joined: 19 Apr 02 Posts: 3 Credit: 1,527,813 RAC: 0 |
I think the part of the point that some are missing that Ricky is trying to make is that the project is about participation. The more participation the better. However, with the lackluster performance as of late, volunteers are switching to other projects (I have). That is sort of defeating part of the reason for having the project in the first place. Volunteers. Don't try to read too much into it... |
additude Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 11 Credit: 25,662,028 RAC: 3 |
"we're once again finding ourselves frustrated with a random and pointless problem." I thought they were all that way.... Well, welcome to my world anyway... Thanks for the effort! We are all Alien. It just depends on which planet you are standing on. |
Metod, S56RKO Send message Joined: 27 Sep 02 Posts: 309 Credit: 113,221,277 RAC: 9 |
This graphics is only slightly wrong. The central box should be BOINC or BOINC client rather than BOINC manager. There's another box missing right next to the box with boinc_cmd which is for BOINC manager and has the same interaction with the rest of boxes as boinc_cmd does. The only difference between BOINC manager and boinc_cmd is graphics-ness of the former. Metod ... |
©2024 University of California
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.