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Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem. This is not usually the case. Something is happening at their end to cause this rash of validate errors, but generally, validate errors are caused by the users host not performing the calculations correctly. (heat problems, bad overclock, iffy memory, etc) |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
I just got this one don't know why, maybe a server problem? Quoting my own post here as I think I should add this: Some BOINC Client versions are "more prone" to getting VEs than others. Those which "Report Results Immediately" (RRI). Also I think some of the earlier varients of ver. 5.9 and 5.10 if the Connect Interval (CI) is set too low. Back in June, Joe Segur suggested setting a minimum CI of 0.001 days (86.4 seconds). I am still using BOINC 5.10.7 with a CI of 0.007 days = 604.8 seconds, or just over 10 minutes. Some of the latest BOINC versions, since 5.10.14 have updated scheduler code that I think ignores low CI settings. I could be wrong on this, but I seem to remember 5.10.14 being the one where this changed. Sir Arthur C Clarke 1917-2008 |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem. Sorry Tony but I totally disagree with that. Compute errors are caused by the things that you mentioned. Validate errors are caused when the Validator has a problem. [edit] Added link. [/edit] |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem. And the third case is an Invalid result, which shows as Outcome: Success rather than Outcome: Validate error. Such Invalid results can be caused by the conditions that Tony described, but have nothing to do with the topic of this thread. OTOH, Sutaru found a case where a Validate error can be caused by the host sending garbled data when it tries to upload. The Upload handler replies with a "Bad Command" hard error which makes the BOINC core client delete the failed upload, leading to the Validate error after the result is reported. Joe |
mmonroe Send message Joined: 22 Oct 06 Posts: 20 Credit: 5,132,754 RAC: 0 |
I have had two more validate errors as posted below. Do you think they will run the corrective scrip again? 652486842 176317244 6 Nov 2007 3:26:14 UTC 7 Nov 2007 8:54:46 UTC Over Validate error Done 18,969.27 |
Henk Haneveld Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 154 Credit: 1,577,293 RAC: 1 |
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Philadelphia Send message Joined: 12 Feb 07 Posts: 1590 Credit: 399,688 RAC: 0 |
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C Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 240 Credit: 7,716,977 RAC: 0 |
Just got five validation errors - first ones I've had in ages. Running BOINC 5.10.20 and Alex's V8 on MBP Core Duo. WUs are http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resul...ltid=645225100 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resul...ltid=645085501 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resul...ltid=644889888 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resul...ltid=642986388 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resul...ltid=642986386 Any ideas? C Join Team MacNN |
Kevin Fitzsimmons Send message Joined: 27 Oct 02 Posts: 7 Credit: 5,077,920 RAC: 0 |
They must of ran the corrective script again, or corrected the problem. Last night I noted I had more validate errors but was too lazy to post them here. After just checking, they were all gone except for two, but with those, the computer that replaced me had sent in their results to complete the pairing. Thanks goes out to Eric and ... I have had at least one of these errors every day this month and so far today, (knock on wood), none. Kevin WORK HARD! PLAY HARD! |
Brian Silvers Send message Joined: 11 Jun 99 Posts: 1681 Credit: 492,052 RAC: 0 |
They must of ran the corrective script again, or corrected the problem. The script was definitely run again. The other day I had...ummm...abused my BOINC buttons (joining hiamps, I suppose) by hitting update within 15 seconds of the result being uploaded and it generated a validate error. That result has since been "fixed" and I have credit for it... I had never reported in this thread that I had a validate error, so the script goes out and finds everything matching the criteria... Brian |
Philadelphia Send message Joined: 12 Feb 07 Posts: 1590 Credit: 399,688 RAC: 0 |
Here is an additional one - 651162153 PS - It's on 2.2B, please adjust appropriately. Thanks. |
Logan Send message Joined: 26 Jan 07 Posts: 743 Credit: 918,353 RAC: 0 |
Here is an additional one - 651162153 PS - It's on 2.2B, please adjust appropriately. Thanks. Good boy Philly...:) I hope that no more validation errors you get. I have not had more since last weekend (for the moment). What BOINC version are you using? I recommend the 5.10.28. I'm using it since last week and all works fine... [edit]Oh! you are using 5.10.13... If you updates to 5.10.28 you can improve the validation errors problems... Believe me:)[/edit] Best Regards. Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Philadelphia Send message Joined: 12 Feb 07 Posts: 1590 Credit: 399,688 RAC: 0 |
Here is an additional one - 651162153 PS - It's on 2.2B, please adjust appropriately. Thanks. When I'm able to get over to the location that computer is at, I'll do that and update the optimized version. |
criton Send message Joined: 28 Feb 00 Posts: 131 Credit: 13,351,000 RAC: 2 |
another one today http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648220076 thanks les |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
[edit]Oh! you are using 5.10.13... If you updates to 5.10.28 you can improve the validation errors problems... Believe me:)[/edit] v5.10.13 is fine - I use it on all my boxes. But if you stick with it, you need to take the 'Computer is connected to the Internet about every' value above zero: 0.01 days seems plenty from here. But don't let me take away your excuse to travel across town and upgrade that 2.2B...... |
Logan Send message Joined: 26 Jan 07 Posts: 743 Credit: 918,353 RAC: 0 |
[edit]Oh! you are using 5.10.13... If you updates to 5.10.28 you can improve the validation errors problems... Believe me:)[/edit] You are right, Richard. 5.10.13 works fine and 5.10.20 too. (if the 'Computer is connected to the Internet about every' is not 0) Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
Snagged my very first one here. It's almost a relief - I was feeling quite left out :). Guess it is because of the following: 11/11/2007 03:39:16|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started upload of file 15fe07ab.3826.2526.13.6.109_1_0 11/11/2007 03:39:16|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work 11/11/2007 03:39:16|SETI@home|Requesting 3226 seconds of new work, and reporting 2 completed tasks 11/11/2007 03:39:21|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file 15fe07ab.3826.2526.13.6.109_1_0 11/11/2007 03:39:21|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 10665 bytes/sec 11/11/2007 03:39:21|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511] 11/11/2007 03:39:21|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec 11/11/2007 03:39:21|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project And its next report of completed tasks was only 20 seconds later at 03:39:36. F. |
Philadelphia Send message Joined: 12 Feb 07 Posts: 1590 Credit: 399,688 RAC: 0 |
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Eric Findley Send message Joined: 28 Mar 03 Posts: 72 Credit: 8,674,945 RAC: 0 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=653793219 new validate error today for me |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
E gads, I finally got a couple ! wuid=176567852 wuid=176528138 "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
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