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Message 570023 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 3:19:26 UTC - in response to Message 569998.  
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The rules are not irritating, bug intriguing enough, I'll go sleeping for now.

Hello you yankees, woken up yet? (and other americans)

Olli


Hi Olli and all,
From all the way around the world in Broken Arrow, OK USA at 10:44PM 05/17/2007...
The sun set only a few hours ago and the stars are just becoming visible (thank you light pollution). Even through the cloudy sky Saturn is the brightest object visible and is setting in the western sky. Ursa Major and Ursa Minor are visible overhead though their brightness is quite diminished by the bright lights. From the East, several other planets will be joining over the course of the evening though I'm not sure if they will be visisble to us.

All-in-all through system outages, power loss, engineering and scientific challenges, data loss and frustration, our friends the planets, stars, galaxies and everything in-between almost always please.

All my best,
Joe

P.S.: Did I mention "thanks to light pollution"? Well, if I didn't... Thank you light pollution (and contributors) for such a wonderful, beautiful, limited view of the night sky. Arghhh.
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Message 570030 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 3:38:31 UTC - in response to Message 570026.  

re: Urs

Haven't you heard of the Bahamian session, where the "birds" (wives, girlfriends) support us in general, providing bbqs, sodas, chips, beer, and someone suggested tree-hangers (don't know the word in english). Us scientists would have to measure gravitational field or -flux changes (lying and being well served) based on the laser anomalities. Join the club. For now it only has a few volunteer observers, but I expect the number to be rising. Self-funded expedition. I guess. -Or is it?

Olli


I believe the word You're looking for might be Tree-Huggers.


...or hammocks...

...or pillows... ;-)
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Message 570034 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 3:46:15 UTC - in response to Message 570030.  

Hammocks with pillows, thanks now I'll remember.

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Message 570048 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 4:12:53 UTC
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On connectivity.

My machines could not connect and get new work units since Thumper went down.

I tried updating the Boinc software first....nothing!

I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling my Boinc .....nothing!

BUT:

When I Purged Boinc by:

(1) Uninstalled my Boinc software and then manually deleted my C:\\program files\\Boinc\\ folder.

(2) Installed a fresh copy of Boinc software and reattached to the Seti Project.

NEW WORK UNITS!

I have done this to 6 machines now and all six are now getting new work units!

I had to go into my account and merge my new computer account with the prior account number. (The old computer number gets deleted and credits are combined on the new computer number.)

I had optimized clients on some machines but not all. ALL are now getting work.
Machines that have not been so purged still are not getting work!

I hope this helps a few folks. I think there is some address or setting that changed with all the new hardware and simply resetting the project in the boinc software didn't change the needed IP. (Just a guess).


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Message 570077 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 5:36:47 UTC - in response to Message 569849.  

Hi!

I ask again!!
When I goes to seti@home webpages from BOINC manager, I dont get the most recent files.
At Set@home index page, in the News section iyt's like this:
NEWS
May 12, 2007
Update: We got the new server yesterday, inserted our old disks and booted it up. It came right up, but verifying the file systems took overnight. The work is being created, the splitters and assimilators are working. It will be a while before we catch up. Thank you for your continued patience and support.


Yesterday there was also News about the longest outtake dated May 16, 2007.

Is it anybody else that also have notice it?
Or, is it maybe a local fault??

** Keep up the good work. We all are very happy that the project is up an running again, though small difficulties left.**

Peter, If you go to Technical news in the header area that will give you the most recent technical updates. The news section is where they post very short updates.




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Message 570121 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 6:36:31 UTC

hi is anybody haveing this problem at all??

Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 48 min 22 sec
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed

Just am curious?
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Message 570122 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 6:48:06 UTC - in response to Message 570121.  

hi is anybody haveing this problem at all??

Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 48 min 22 sec
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed

Just am curious?


Yes, I'm getting the same error. WU's uploading and reporting OK but no new wU's coming down.


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Message 570123 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 6:50:13 UTC - in response to Message 570121.  

hi is anybody haveing this problem at all??

Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 48 min 22 sec
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed

Just am curious?


This is a mayor problem. It creates ghost result.
The best thing to do for the moment is to set BOINC to not asking for new work.
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Message 570125 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 7:04:20 UTC - in response to Message 570123.  

hi is anybody haveing this problem at all??

Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
Fri May 18 01:32:12 2007|SETI@home|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 48 min 22 sec
Fri May 18 01:33:53 2007|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed

Just am curious?


This is a mayor problem. It creates ghost result.
The best thing to do for the moment is to set BOINC to not asking for new work.



So just click on no new task then? how long should I wait then too?
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Message 570127 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 7:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 570125.  



So just click on no new task then? how long should I wait then too?


Yes. How long you have to wait to turn it back on is unknow.
The SETI staff have to fix the problem first.
There is a thread about Ghost units in the Number Crunching forum, mayby it is a good idea to read that one.
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Message 570136 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 8:32:42 UTC

Unfortunately, money is something that I'm currently short on. I gladly donate my CPU time, that is when S@H is running, which I might add has a quite good runtime record. I've had a few blackouts myself, when I was having my own computer issues. S@H would drive up my CPU usage, which'd cause my CPU's to heat up, and it'd scram and shut down my system. This only happened with Uber high CPU demanding processes (Seti@home, video encoding, etc.) Now that I'm fully functional, I'm back.

If it wouldn't deprive me of my main computer, I'd gladly donate my server, I'm sure it could perform some minor tasks, since I'm sure it's no where near as powerful as the SUN servers. Too bad you couldn't find a volunteer to run some of the tasks that one of the servers would run. Say, the Validation server(s) get overrun, have Joe User (I realise there are other users with far more powerful systems than my Dual-xeon on here) with his Quad-Athalon X2s run as a validation server. Or he may act as a backup. Might consider finding some way to outsource some of the load in a crisis. It would help bail you out since its hard getting the resources to build new servers.

Sadly, anything I have here, that I'm not actively using myself, wouldn't be much good to you. Um, need a 270Mb hard drive? Of course not, they make pen drives that are larger. :-)
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Message 570153 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 10:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 570123.  

...This is a mayor problem....


That's politics, I suppose?! Sorry - my typo's are legendary anyway but thank you for giving me a bit of cheer this morning!

Keep crunching people - and have a good weekend!
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Message 570156 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 10:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 570048.  
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(1) Uninstalled my Boinc software and then manually deleted my C:\\program files\\Boinc\\ folder.



This cannot be done if you - as myself for instance - are running other projects for the time being. At least it is not good BOINC behaviour.

Kind regards
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Message 570166 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 11:05:46 UTC - in response to Message 569680.  
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Sounds like they need a professional grant writer. Most government grants are applied for via professional grant writers who truly understand the process and have a good track record of receiving grants for their clients.

Also sounds like UC should find a University more willing to take the handcuffs off of the project so it has the opportunity to thrive. Contact the University of Wisconsin.

Let me guess, UC has a rule on contacting other Universities too... not to mention the staff has no desire to cut their own jobs.


And probably they have families, friends and other things they don't want to move from. If they hadn't I would steal them emediately, set them up in the basement with an ESA grant in the millions, but... I guess Matt, Dan, Eric and the rest have a very big reluctance on learning swedish;-)

Heck they would be worshipped stars around here and sit with the rest of us crazy people on the pictures;-)



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Message 570172 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 11:10:31 UTC

Staff-meeting... :-)


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Message 570176 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 11:19:41 UTC

And Matt... Did I say that we have a small sound-stage complete with instruments so that the staff can wind down and play..?

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Message 570194 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 11:53:18 UTC
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STOP PRESS!

Checking the 'Ghost Issues' thread in number crunching:
There may be a work-around if you're running optimised seti-

It's working for us

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/Edit oops, trying to edit in midpost- results in multipost...
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Message 570425 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 16:14:32 UTC

Ladies & Gentlemen:
At least! It seems that all the system is stable, and... New servers on line!

Checked! That guys on the lab are incredible ;)

Continue that way!
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Message 570430 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 16:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 570425.  

Ladies & Gentlemen:
At least! It seems that all the system is stable, and... New servers on line!

Checked! That guys on the lab are incredible ;)

Continue that way!


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Message 570474 - Posted: 18 May 2007, 17:23:24 UTC

I am receiving the following messages. The main problem seems to be that I cannot report results. I have 6 completed and waiting to report. Any sugggestions?

5/18/2007 1:16:08 PM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
5/18/2007 1:16:10 PM||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
5/18/2007 1:16:12 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: couldn't connect to server
5/18/2007 1:16:12 PM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
5/18/2007 1:17:13 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
5/18/2007 1:17:13 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To report completed tasks
5/18/2007 1:17:13 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work, and reporting 6 completed tasks
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