WOW. Just looked at my account page. Been with seti for eight years TODAY. Happy Anniversary Seti

Same here!! Good ol' SETI, can't believe it's been that long. Happy crunching!

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I am not unhappy!. Just curious as to why the "your computers tab" is showing 50 wu's downloaded to my machines, but they don't seem to be there yet.

Please check out the thread over in Number Crunching titled "Ghost WU issue (and some talk about deadlines)"...

Once there, take a look and see if you have HTTP Internal server error messages in your messages tab.

Funny fact of my life:

Today I have been 12 years at the place where I work.

Tomorrow I will have been 8 years with Seti in its different incarnations.

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(blush)
1st PC I ever used was a DEC Rainbow.
It used a 8088 cpu from which the 80186 was descended....

It's too bad that DEC never figured out where to fit into the PC marketplace. They really knew the mini-computer world though.

I wish they did too - I worked for DEC for 9 years in finance, from '84 to '93. At one point they employed nearly 160,000 people, when I left, they were down to 80,000.

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(blush)
1st PC I ever used was a DEC Rainbow.
It used a 8088 cpu from which the 80186 was descended....

It's too bad that DEC never figured out where to fit into the PC marketplace. They really knew the mini-computer world though.

I wish they did too - I worked for DEC for 9 years in finance, from '84 to '93. At one point they employed nearly 160,000 people, when I left, they were down to 80,000.

I worked for them from 75 to 80.. had a badge number under 30,000. I left them because they kept me on the road and planes all the time and I seldom got to see my kids. It was a great company, but they just didn't ever get the marketing right.

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When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.

Funny fact of my life:

Today I have been 12 years at the place where I work.

Tomorrow I will have been 8 years with Seti in its different incarnations.

Congratulations with your membership of the 8 Year Club. Greetings (and a new plaque) in the team's SETI forum.

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Kind regards
Kirsten

Funny fact of my life:

Today I have been 12 years at the place where I work.

Tomorrow I will have been 8 years with Seti in its different incarnations.

Ha funny I just realized that I will have 8 years as well tomorrow, and have been retired for almost 12 years. It would be nice to get some work units for the anaversary

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When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.

On the status side, most is again green. Why don't I still get any contact? Slowly, the patience gets lost.

SSSShhhhh! All is running like clockwork. ...and the graph is pointing upwards again.

Well done to all concerned. At least one customer is happy.

I am not unhappy!. Just curious as to why the "your computers tab" is showing 50 wu's downloaded to my machines, but they don't seem to be there yet.

Perhaps in the true spirit of debugging, I should uninstall "BOINC" and then reinstall "Boinc" Nothing else including patience seems to be working for me as to the mysterious missing downloads>

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On the status side, most is again green. Why don't I still get any contact? Slowly, the patience gets lost.

SSSShhhhh! All is running like clockwork. ...and the graph is pointing upwards again.

Well done to all concerned. At least one customer is happy.

I am not unhappy!. Just curious as to why the "your computers tab" is showing 50 wu's downloaded to my machines, but they don't seem to be there yet.

Perhaps in the true spirit of debugging, I should uninstall "BOINC" and then reinstall "Boinc" Nothing else including patience seems to be working for me as to the mysterious missing downloads>

Leaving it alone and letting BOINC do its thing is the best thing to do.

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Leaving it alone and letting BOINC do its thing is the best thing to do.

Actually, as there are ongoing upload/download problems here -- perhaps not all are related to the server crash two weeks ago -- rather than leave things alone and let BOINC do its thing, perhaps the smarter approach would be to suspend or detach from SETI and focus on currently operational projects.

I am sure that within the next couple of weeks, SETI will return to its normal operation (though perhaps with a lower participant level which might be a good thing), but in the interim giving SETI a rest might be better.

Don't be misled by the 'all green' -- at the moment, that doesn't quite reflect the status of SETI -- it is possible that the hardware is reporting green, but there are still major overloads for upload/download which the current configuration apparently simply can't handle.

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I remember back in the early days of SETI/BOINC there was no weekly scheduled outage...

I remember back when the Internet was text based too lol... :)

Leaving it alone and letting BOINC do its thing is the best thing to do.

Actually, as there are ongoing upload/download problems here -- perhaps not all are related to the server crash two weeks ago -- rather than leave things alone and let BOINC do its thing, perhaps the smarter approach would be to suspend or detach from SETI and focus on currently operational projects.

I am sure that within the next couple of weeks, SETI will return to its normal operation (though perhaps with a lower participant level which might be a good thing), but in the interim giving SETI a rest might be better.

Don't be misled by the 'all green' -- at the moment, that doesn't quite reflect the status of SETI -- it is possible that the hardware is reporting green, but there are still major overloads for upload/download which the current configuration apparently simply can't handle.

I meant that uninstalling and reinstalling the software has no purpose, it wouldn't help the situation at all.

As a matter of fact, I have turned off my SETI machines that have no work. I still have one machine crunching, but it will be done sometime tomorrow, and two others crunching Einstein.

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On the subject of optimised apps - can anyone point me in the direction of one for my Mac Pro Intel Xeon?

There’s a sticky thread in the Number Crunching forum: here’s the most recent posting from Alex Kan, with links to the latest optimized apps for Mac.

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proof positive that the old adage "Never replace more than one item at a time or you'll never know what fixed it" or in this case, what broked it..lol...one day and it hopefully wont be long now, we'll look back at this record setting outage and say 'phewww!'...keep up the good work..a lot of us can relate to what you're going through...

duck

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Funny fact of my life:
Today I have been 12 years at the place where I work.
Tomorrow I will have been 8 years with Seti in its different incarnations.

Only 4 years for me now, but also started in may... weird

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Jaegermeister

Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186?

Last time I saw 186, I think I was in 6th grade :(

Looks like a 286, only slower than most 286's (they stayed at 8 Mhz)... they were used for dedicated applications. The one I have is on a SCSI card, (SCSI-2, 50 HD pins) no longer in my computer.

SLT/Telenova Compis

Your actually wrong. Intel got pissed at IBM after the 8086PC and wanted someone else to build the nextgen PC. The bid was crazily enough given to the SLT/Telenova in Sweden. They received the 80186 on a you build you get/no else gets kind of a deal. And for four years they developed and had Intel redevelop the 186 so that it had a lot more functionality onboard than it initialy had. Then they all of a sudden decided to sell it to schools only and in the end SLT/Telenova bankcrupted. After that Bull and Mistral built standard PC clones using the 186.
Strange thing is that a lot of the features of the 186 as hyperburst, multilayer cache, on-board memory controllers and stuff was not Intels copyright but SLTs. So that's why there where things on the 186 that was not on the 286, 386 and 486. And in the end Intel had to change the name into Pentium to break the patent so to speak.
Top spead of 186 was actually 16MHz.

Wow, I knew something about computers that Chicken didn't:-)

Carl

Ok, we're both wrong... I just looked at the card that has the 186 on it, and it's a 80186-20... AFAIK, no-one ever used the 186 in a "standard PC-clone" IIRC, the Bull's (at least) weren't completely compatable (first I've heard of the Mistral...) (actual Intel part number... "N80C186XL20 L5512718D © 1978 1982)

As I heard it, Inte£ changed the name to Pentium™, because the US patent office refused to trademark a number! (I.E. 486, or 80486)

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

With Seti I would expect that with the ongoing problems having been aged quite a bit that we may be looking into some time next week before the storm passes (assuming something else doesn't go bump in the night). I'm inclined to simply keep my SETI stuff on Suspend for the duration. When (if) things get to normal, I will put SETI back on my active projects list -- until then, it is something of a waste of time.

[snip]

It seems the only projects awarding credits smoothly and running 'normal' at the moment are World Grid, Rosetta, and Climate. Right now, those are the projects picking up the slack provided by the troubled SETI and Einstein projects.

Folding@home is doin' pretty well, too...

Good morning/afternoon/evening (delete as applicable)

I'm receiving and uploading WU's OK it would appear but I'm not getting any credit - there are many in "pending" credit status. I read through the latest threads but couldn't clearly see if this was one of the current global problems or not.

The funny thing is that I have the same thing hapenning with Enstein also??

On the subject of optimised apps - can anyone point me in the direction of one for my Mac Pro Intel Xeon?

Cheers!

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

Leaving it alone and letting BOINC do its thing is the best thing to do.

Actually, as there are ongoing upload/download problems here -- perhaps not all are related to the server crash two weeks ago -- rather than leave things alone and let BOINC do its thing, perhaps the smarter approach would be to suspend or detach from SETI and focus on currently operational projects.

I am sure that within the next couple of weeks, SETI will return to its normal operation (though perhaps with a lower participant level which might be a good thing), but in the interim giving SETI a rest might be better.

Don't be misled by the 'all green' -- at the moment, that doesn't quite reflect the status of SETI -- it is possible that the hardware is reporting green, but there are still major overloads for upload/download which the current configuration apparently simply can't handle.

I meant that uninstalling and reinstalling the software has no purpose, it wouldn't help the situation at all.

As a matter of fact, I have turned off my SETI machines that have no work. I still have one machine crunching, but it will be done sometime tomorrow, and two others crunching Einstein.

Try restarting the BOINC manager - that helped me (and as I just realize I'm not the only one) some minutes ago after effortless trying to UL/DL results/new WUs for hours...

Other BOINC projects are running smooth: why not give a chance to Proteins@home (small WUs which finish in 20% of the time SETI-WUs require) or climate-prediction (larger WUs which require 400x space and time!) - you don't have to run idle machines just because SETI is hickupping ;-)

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On the status side, most is again green. Why don't I still get any contact? Slowly, the patience gets lost.

SSSShhhhh! All is running like clockwork. ...and the graph is pointing upwards again.

Well done to all concerned. At least one customer is happy.

I am not unhappy!. Just curious as to why the "your computers tab" is showing 50 wu's downloaded to my machines, but they don't seem to be there yet.

Perhaps in the true spirit of debugging, I should uninstall "BOINC" and then reinstall "Boinc" Nothing else including patience seems to be working for me as to the mysterious missing downloads>

O. K. I detached from Setiathome, Then reattached to setiathome. Guess what. I got one work unit. I did seem to lose my optimized program though. that can be fixed later.

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Know you are hard at work on the upload issue.

Interesting thing happened. One of my machines seems to have become fixated on getting work form Seti/Seti Beta. In any case the BOINC scheduler let the machine run out of work even though there are other projects the machine is attached to. I don't know if it is the parcitular error messages that BOINC is getting back make it think work will be forthcoming shortly or if the errors aren't being understood by BOINC to mean, move on to the next project, ignore the user work percent for this project.

Right now we will call it a feature, but one thing I'm sure of, this particular kind of failure will show up in some project in the future. BOINC ought to be taught that after some number of retrys to get work downloads and the machine is idle, move on to the next project it can get work from.

Thanks for all the hard work.
Gary

We had the usual outage today which was mostly a success. The database compressed and was backed up in just over an hour. Normally this takes almost twice as long but the result table has significantly shrunk over the past two weeks (wonder why?). After that we put the new thumper in the closet (we being me, Eric, Jeff, and Kevin - it's a heavy machine). We also rebooted bruno to cleanly pick up a new disk (replacing a failed disk from yesterday). And I rebooted penguin to attach koloth's old tape drive to it (so it could read the classic data tapes for splitting).

That all went well. We also updated all the BOINC-side code to bring the SETI@home project in line with the current BOINC source tree and a few things broke, namely our validators and assimilators. These aren't project critical for the time being, so we're postponing dealing with these until we deal with the real problem at hand: getting people to connect to our data servers.

I think this is the longest outage we've ever had (even though it wasn't a "complete" outage - just no work was available) and we're in a whole new network configuration since the last major outage (new OS, new servers, new ISP, new switches, new router). In short, we're being clobbered by the returning flood of work requests. The major bottleneck is somewhere in the direction of our Hurricane router or bruno. Or at least that's the way it seems right now and there's no guarantee that when we break that dam a new bottleneck won't arise. I don't have the time to spell out what is broken and what we tried and what failed and what yielded unexpected results. Just know we're working on it and we understand most connections are being dropped.

- Matt