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KWSN - Sir Tux of Flanders Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,351,421 RAC: 0 |
Really interesting. Frankenserver... I beg to differ, Tandy or Radio-Shack used to sell the model 2000. I had one of those and it ran on a 80186 processor under MS-dos. In the day's of XT-s this was a pritty potent PC. Greets, Erland. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Sorry for being testy. I'm sorry for coming off strong. I think it's just a personality quirk that I just start blasting away questions without realizing it might make the other person feel like I'm calling them a liar. Certainly not my intention, I assure you. I just like to ask lots of questions when I see/hear anything that doesn't make sense. I go into "logic" mode mentally and forget that I'm dealing with people that have feelings. I really meant no harm. Glad we can solve this amicably. |
Demiurg Send message Joined: 2 Jul 02 Posts: 883 Credit: 28,286 RAC: 0 |
Sorry for being testy. Me too:-) *Handing over a beer* It is SEXY to DONATE! Skype = demiurg2 |
Lycanthrope Send message Joined: 27 May 05 Posts: 31 Credit: 1,338,589 RAC: 0 |
Good morning/afternoon/evening (delete as applicable) I'm receiving and uploading WU's OK it would appear but I'm not getting any credit - there are many in "pending" credit status. I read through the latest threads but couldn't clearly see if this was one of the current global problems or not. The funny thing is that I have the same thing hapenning with Enstein also?? On the subject of optimised apps - can anyone point me in the direction of one for my Mac Pro Intel Xeon? Cheers! |
Demiurg Send message Joined: 2 Jul 02 Posts: 883 Credit: 28,286 RAC: 0 |
Good morning/afternoon/evening (delete as applicable) Validators are currently offline. It is SEXY to DONATE! Skype = demiurg2 |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
With Seti I would expect that with the ongoing problems having been aged quite a bit that we may be looking into some time next week before the storm passes (assuming something else doesn't go bump in the night). I'm inclined to simply keep my SETI stuff on Suspend for the duration. When (if) things get to normal, I will put SETI back on my active projects list -- until then, it is something of a waste of time. With Einstein, their new work units are typically very large (anywhere from 100 to 500 credits). They take long to process and that means that they have a greater possibility of computational errors and folks simply missing reporting deadlines. As a result, it can take quite a bit longer to get the quorum needed to get credits. Also, the new workunits seem to have been if anything 'de-optimized. for AMD processors. They run something like 25% slower than they should so that pushes out getting credits (and then getting less credits that you'd expect). The net result of this is that with Einstein work, you will get 'lumpy' credits -- nothing for a while on a given workstation, then 200 to 500 credits one day. It seems the only projects awarding credits smoothly and running 'normal' at the moment are World Grid, Rosetta, and Climate. Right now, those are the projects picking up the slack provided by the troubled SETI and Einstein projects. Good morning/afternoon/evening (delete as applicable) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I think the reason why there were very few 80186 computers is because the original IBM-PC was introduced in 1981. And the 80286 was launched by Intel the following year. One assumes the manufactures knew in 1981 that the 80286 was coming soon and had all the specs etc. So why bother developing an 80186 when all your competitors would probably jump straight to the 80286. And regarding the 80186, there was a co-processor 80186 module developed for the BBC Master in the UK, connected via the Tube. Which could run same code as the Nimbus. Andy |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
I vaguely remember something about memory mapping in the 80186 that required ROM to be low in memory, while the 8086 and 80286 didn't have that restriction. ... and since IBM put ROM at the top of the 1mb address space, it was impossible to do a true PC clone with the '186 chip. |
Demiurg Send message Joined: 2 Jul 02 Posts: 883 Credit: 28,286 RAC: 0 |
The ROM thingy is a residue from SLT/Telenova addendums. There where 186es that handled memory the same way as 86es. These where used in the Bull, Mistral, Tandy 186es. I just don't remember the lettering of the different versions. But here is a bus-schematic of the 186 "One major function of the 80186/80188 series was to reduce the number of chips required by including features such as a DMA controller, interrupt controller, timers, and chip select logic." These are the addendums of the SLT/Telenova. If I remember correctly the ROM-low was named R80186. Carl It is SEXY to DONATE! Skype = demiurg2 |
Neil Walker Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 288 Credit: 18,101,056 RAC: 0 |
There was no such thing as a 186 computer. Funny,that. My first PC compatible had an 8MHz 80186. It was a BBC Master 512 running Digital Research's DOSPlus and GEM. Be lucky Neil |
res0r9lm Send message Joined: 19 Apr 04 Posts: 2 Credit: 148,119 RAC: 0 |
My way back machine can't go back any further than 286 without fear of getting stuck |
Zornak Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 500,767 RAC: 0 |
Really interesting. Frankenserver... Since I sent this blank reply by accident I decided to add something to it. The IBM 610 was the first personal computer, in the sense that it was the first computer intended for use by one person (e.g. in an office) and controlled from a keyboard. It came out about 1957. You can by a reasonable desktop today for the 610's monthly rental of $1150. --- Dennis |
Zornak Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 500,767 RAC: 0 |
Really interesting. Frankenserver... Just thought I'd throw this in for grins. I go back a little farther than most of you. Wrote my first program in the late '50s on an IBM 650 in the BLISS language. Anyway, the first "desktop" computer I remember was the IBM 1620 - http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/1620.html for a picture - I used the Model 2 in 1962 or 63 with Fortran (just plain Fortran...it didn't have a version number back then.) It even came with it's own desk! --- Those were the really FUN days. Keep up the good work guys. I spent may days/nights trying to get these dang gadgets to do what I wanted them to do. --- Dennis |
Leprechaun Send message Joined: 28 Sep 00 Posts: 37 Credit: 5,659,243 RAC: 0 |
On the status side, most is again green. Why don't I still get any contact? Slowly, the patience gets lost. Wiki German Language, Wiki in deutscher Sprache View |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
The original desktop computer was an IBM XT PC. It had an 8088 processor and ran at a whopping blazing fast 4.77 MHz (as compared to the 1.0 MHz Commodore 64).Since so many folks are quoting this post, I'd just like to point out another couple of errors. The XT was not the original IBM PC, but an upgraded variant which appeared in 1983. I think most folks thought the hard disk it included was the key upgrade at the time. Suddenly not _everything_ had to run from floppy. Also the AT was introduced at 6 MHz, though 8 MHz did become available. Wikipedia is wildly optimistic in calling 6 MHz for the original AT conservative--for the condition of the 80286 at the time of introduction, it was not conservative at all. |
LTDInvestments Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 14 Credit: 4,592,515 RAC: 42 |
The original desktop computer was an IBM XT PC. It had an 8088 processor and ran at a whopping blazing fast 4.77 MHz (as compared to the 1.0 MHz Commodore 64).Since so many folks are quoting this post, I'd just like to point out another couple of errors. The XT was not the original IBM PC, but an upgraded variant which appeared in 1983. I think most folks thought the hard disk it included was the key upgrade at the time. Suddenly not _everything_ had to run from floppy. I was about to comment also on that. I have one of the original IBM PC. I thought I was in Heaven with a mono (green) screen, two floppy drives and 64k of ram, and a 300 baud modem! I then upgraded to a 1200 baud modem (wife had a fit at that) then a 10 meg HD. Some time later added max memory. Then a 2 meg JRam board from Tall Trees, then another, then a 386 upgrade board that fit in a regular slot and tied into the 8088 processor slot.I had every slot filled and all the interrupts were being used. Ran a BBS from it for awhile. Still have it and should fire it up just for grins....... David |
Garry Webb Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 40 Credit: 13,561,408 RAC: 0 |
Since Sunday I have received no new work, keeps saying contact failed or no work from project. I suspended communication for one hour, reinstalled boinc using the repair option and rebooted, after one hour I allowed network communications always. Nothing has changed, still no work from project, or failed communication. Very interesting fact, when I check the your computers tab on the projects page it shows that 50 work units have been sent to me on 16 May and 17 May. So! are they just hanging somewhere in cyber space, because they are not on any of my computers. Not complaining! just wondering! |
JohnAlton Send message Joined: 28 Aug 01 Posts: 54 Credit: 164,417,653 RAC: 369 |
(blush) It's too bad that DEC never figured out where to fit into the PC marketplace. They really knew the mini-computer world though. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
I wonder if the mega equipment replacement, swapping, recycling, decycling, tweaking, stressing, etc. has resulted in a fair degree of server database confusion and thus has dinged the database in ways wondrous and strange. In any event, I'm hoping this outage (now at 3 weeks and folks it is still an outage -- in that I'm using 'disfunctional' as a definition of an outage) resolves in the next week or so. Since Sunday I have received no new work, keeps saying contact failed or no work from project. |
KWSN Ekky Ekky Ekky Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 944 Credit: 52,956,491 RAC: 67 |
On the status side, most is again green. Why don't I still get any contact? Slowly, the patience gets lost. SSSShhhhh! All is running like clockwork. ...and the graph is pointing upwards again. Well done to all concerned. At least one customer is happy. |
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