Really interesting. Frankenserver...
Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses!
(Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je

Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years...

Yep! I worked on one running MPM around 1984!

... and looking at my RAC, I'm still running it!

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(blush)
1st PC I ever used was a DEC Rainbow.
It used a 8088 cpu from which the 80186 was descended....

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My first was Commodore 64. But I spent many a day with my mom on the weekends, when she had to go into work. It was a FREEZING room, but I got all of these punch cards to draw on....

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Dublin, California
Team: SETI.USA

My 1st. was an MSX from Philips, 48 Kb RAM & 32 Kb ROM.
Snif! What times was! :'-|

With his Cassette recorder,... Piiiiiiii, greeeenyyyyneynyenyeyenye, Piiiii
(30 min later) Piiiiiiiiiiii, clock Please, turn tape to B face (and again) Piiiiiiiiiii,....

'Till you'll get the fully software loaded on memory, 1h, and then Memory overflow messages.

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Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186?

Last time I saw 186, I think I was in 6th grade :(

Looks like a 286, only slower than most 286's (they stayed at 8 Mhz)... they were used for dedicated applications. The one I have is on a SCSI card, (SCSI-2, 50 HD pins) no longer in my computer.

SLT/Telenova Compis

Your actually wrong. Intel got pissed at IBM after the 8086PC and wanted someone else to build the nextgen PC. The bid was crazily enough given to the SLT/Telenova in Sweden. They received the 80186 on a you build you get/no else gets kind of a deal. And for four years they developed and had Intel redevelop the 186 so that it had a lot more functionality onboard than it initialy had. Then they all of a sudden decided to sell it to schools only and in the end SLT/Telenova bankcrupted. After that Bull and Mistral built standard PC clones using the 186.
Strange thing is that a lot of the features of the 186 as hyperburst, multilayer cache, on-board memory controllers and stuff was not Intels copyright but SLTs. So that's why there where things on the 186 that was not on the 286, 386 and 486. And in the end Intel had to change the name into Pentium to break the patent so to speak.
Top spead of 186 was actually 16MHz.

Wow, I knew something about computers that Chicken didn't:-)

Carl

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Long live the FrankenServer!

*Muahahaha!*

we always called those, "Garage-a-tronic".

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Long live the FrankenServer!

*Muahahaha!*

we always called those, "Garage-a-tronic".

The Garage-a-Tronic is the workstation connected to the FrankenServer:-)

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SLT/Telenova Compis

Your actually wrong. Intel got pissed at IBM after the 8086PC and wanted someone else to build the nextgen PC. The bid was crazily enough given to the SLT/Telenova in Sweden. They received the 80186 on a you build you get/no else gets kind of a deal. And for four years they developed and had Intel redevelop the 186 so that it had a lot more functionality onboard than it initialy had. Then they all of a sudden decided to sell it to schools only and in the end SLT/Telenova bankcrupted. After that Bull and Mistral built standard PC clones using the 186.
Strange thing is that a lot of the features of the 186 as hyperburst, multilayer cache, on-board memory controllers and stuff was not Intels copyright but SLTs. So that's why there where things on the 186 that was not on the 286, 386 and 486. And in the end Intel had to change the name into Pentium to break the patent so to speak.
Top spead of 186 was actually 16MHz.

Wow, I knew something about computers that Chicken didn't:-)

Carl

None of the PC literature that I've ever read has ever stated this. Can you provide proof of your claim (other than a picture)?

[Edit] I'm not implying that what you are stating isn't true at all; there may be some truth to it. The parts that don't make sense is the "SLT were the only computer makers to get the 186 chip" claim, being that the 186 has been used in many peripheral components for years, and the claim that Intel had to change the 586 to Pentium to avoid copyright with SLT. It was my understanding that Intel had to change the name to Pentium because a group of numbers (8086, 286, 386, etc.) were not copyrightable, but the name Pentium is copyrightable, so it was used instead of 586.

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SLT/Telenova Compis

Your actually wrong. Intel got pissed at IBM after the 8086PC and wanted someone else to build the nextgen PC. The bid was crazily enough given to the SLT/Telenova in Sweden. They received the 80186 on a you build you get/no else gets kind of a deal. And for four years they developed and had Intel redevelop the 186 so that it had a lot more functionality onboard than it initialy had. Then they all of a sudden decided to sell it to schools only and in the end SLT/Telenova bankcrupted. After that Bull and Mistral built standard PC clones using the 186.
Strange thing is that a lot of the features of the 186 as hyperburst, multilayer cache, on-board memory controllers and stuff was not Intels copyright but SLTs. So that's why there where things on the 186 that was not on the 286, 386 and 486. And in the end Intel had to change the name into Pentium to break the patent so to speak.
Top spead of 186 was actually 16MHz.

Wow, I knew something about computers that Chicken didn't:-)

Carl

None of the PC literature that I've ever read has ever stated this. Can you provide proof of your claim (other than a picture)?

Well, I guess our hardware engineer sitting two meters away from me who built the dang thing doesn't count so...

Link1 Link2
And of course... Full story link

Carl

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Well, I guess our hardware engineer sitting two meters away from me who built the dang thing doesn't count so...

Link1 Link2
And of course... Full story link

Carl

OK, the first link proves that COMPis existed and used the Intel 80186 chip. The second link proves that the 80186 existed at all. The third link I can't read because it's not in English.

But this still doesn't prove that COMPis was the only company to get the 186 chip, nor does it prove that SLT owned some of the copyrights of the 186 to explain why the 286 and later didn't incorporate some of the features (which, I have a book that explains differently than what you're stating), nor does it prove the claim that Intel had to change he 586 to Pentium due to any of this.

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SLT/Telenova Compis

Your actually wrong. Intel got pissed at IBM after the 8086PC and wanted someone else to build the nextgen PC. The bid was crazily enough given to the SLT/Telenova in Sweden. They received the 80186 on a you build you get/no else gets kind of a deal. And for four years they developed and had Intel redevelop the 186 so that it had a lot more functionality onboard than it initialy had. Then they all of a sudden decided to sell it to schools only and in the end SLT/Telenova bankcrupted. After that Bull and Mistral built standard PC clones using the 186.
Strange thing is that a lot of the features of the 186 as hyperburst, multilayer cache, on-board memory controllers and stuff was not Intels copyright but SLTs. So that's why there where things on the 186 that was not on the 286, 386 and 486. And in the end Intel had to change the name into Pentium to break the patent so to speak.
Top spead of 186 was actually 16MHz.

Wow, I knew something about computers that Chicken didn't:-)

Carl

None of the PC literature that I've ever read has ever stated this. Can you provide proof of your claim (other than a picture)?

[Edit] I'm not implying that what you are stating isn't true at all; there may be some truth to it. The parts that don't make sense is the "SLT were the only computer makers to get the 186 chip" claim, being that the 186 has been used in many peripheral components for years, and the claim that Intel had to change the 586 to Pentium to avoid copyright with SLT. It was my understanding that Intel had to change the name to Pentium because a group of numbers (8086, 286, 386, etc.) were not copyrightable, but the name Pentium is copyrightable, so it was used instead of 586.

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They didn't have proprietary rights to peripheral usages. When they defuncted, other makers like Bull and Mistral got them to build COMPUTERS not vacum-cleaners.
There where actually many reasons for the name-change. One of them was of course the changes into namebranding rules in the states that you are citing. The most important one though neither of us stated. That AMD had been given the right to use the same labelling since they once had a sub-contract with Intel saying that they could use the same type of naming.

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They didn't have proprietary rights to peripheral usages. When they defuncted, other makers like Bull and Mistral got them to build COMPUTERS not vacum-cleaners.
There where actually many reasons for the name-change. One of them was of course the changes into namebranding rules in the states that you are citing. The most important one though neither of us stated. That AMD had been given the right to use the same labelling since they once had a sub-contract with Intel saying that they could use the same type of naming.

Ahh, OK. That makes a little more sense.

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Well, I guess our hardware engineer sitting two meters away from me who built the dang thing doesn't count so...

Link1 Link2
And of course... Full story link

Carl

OK, the first link proves that COMPis existed and used the Intel 80186 chip. The second link proves that the 80186 existed at all. The third link I can't read because it's not in English.

But this still doesn't prove that COMPis was the only company to get the 186 chip, nor does it prove that SLT owned some of the copyrights of the 186 to explain why the 286 and later didn't incorporate some of the features (which, I have a book that explains differently than what you're stating), nor does it prove the claim that Intel had to change he 586 to Pentium due to any of this.

Dude, I said it was a swedish company. Hence that the third link is in swedish...
Since I do not know what your book is stating it is hard for me to answer it. But, there are/where a lot of reasons for the changes. Often there where more than one. And I know a lot of those reasons. I am not in any way saying that those reasons are not true. They are most likely true. I just wanted to state that there was actually COMPUTERS to produced of the 186.
Talk about making a storm in a waterglass dude. Try here to grasp the concept that many things can be true at the same time. What I have said is not contrary to what you have read, it is just giving a different and more unknown side of the computer history.

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/Reply to edit
They didn't have proprietary rights to peripheral usages. When they defuncted, other makers like Bull and Mistral got them to build COMPUTERS not vacum-cleaners.
There where actually many reasons for the name-change. One of them was of course the changes into namebranding rules in the states that you are citing. The most important one though neither of us stated. That AMD had been given the right to use the same labelling since they once had a sub-contract with Intel saying that they could use the same type of naming.

Ahh, OK. That makes a little more sense.

The big truth is normally built upon many small truths:-) That's why history professors can make a living out of arguing about details.

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Really interesting. Frankenserver...
Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses!
(Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je

Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years...

There was no such thing as a 186 computer. The original desktop computer was an IBM XT PC. It had an 8088 processor and ran at a whopping blazing fast 4.77 MHz (as compared to the 1.0 MHz Commodore 64).

The first 286 computer was the IBM AT PC. It has an 80286 processor that ran 8.0 MHz.

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Dude, I said it was a swedish company. Hence that the third link is in swedish...
Since I do not know what your book is stating it is hard for me to answer it. But, there are/where a lot of reasons for the changes. Often there where more than one. And I know a lot of those reasons. I am not in any way saying that those reasons are not true. They are most likely true. I just wanted to state that there was actually COMPUTERS to produced of the 186.
Talk about making a storm in a waterglass dude. Try here to grasp the concept that many things can be true at the same time. What I have said is not contrary to what you have read, it is just giving a different and more unknown side of the computer history.

You don't have to get all testy just because I'm challenging what you say. I simply like to have proof before I absorb it into my own memory as truth. I simply am willing to learn, but I'm not willing to believe any claim made (sorry if I don't want to be naive or gullible).

Some of what you said didn't make sense, so I asked for clarification. I didn't mean to "make a storm in a water glass". I didn't realize asking questions to learn was a bad thing. I know I come off strong in the way I ask questions, but it isn't meant to anger, only for me to learn.

And I understand you said it was a Swedish company, hence the third link. But how does that help me learn if I can't read it?

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Really interesting. Frankenserver...
Maybe they can build any kind of MainFrame for high computing proceses!
(Based on Intel's 286, 386, 486, Pentium I, II, III, IV, etc...) je je je

Hey, anyone (other than me) ever see a 186? I still have one, although it hasn't done anything for a couple of years...

There was no such thing as a 186 computer. The original desktop computer was an IBM XT PC. It had an 8088 processor and ran at a whopping blazing fast 4.77 MHz (as compared to the 1.0 MHz Commodore 64).

The first 286 computer was the IBM AT PC. It has an 80286 processor that ran 8.0 MHz.

Actually there were at leat four. The Mindset, the Compis (a Swedish school computer), the RM Nimbus (a British school computer), and the Tandy 2000 desktop (a somewhat PC-compatible workstation featuring particularly sharp graphics for its day).

http://www.braindex.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Intel_80186

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Dude, I said it was a swedish company. Hence that the third link is in swedish...
Since I do not know what your book is stating it is hard for me to answer it. But, there are/where a lot of reasons for the changes. Often there where more than one. And I know a lot of those reasons. I am not in any way saying that those reasons are not true. They are most likely true. I just wanted to state that there was actually COMPUTERS to produced of the 186.
Talk about making a storm in a waterglass dude. Try here to grasp the concept that many things can be true at the same time. What I have said is not contrary to what you have read, it is just giving a different and more unknown side of the computer history.

You don't have to get all testy just because I'm challenging what you say. I simply like to have proof before I absorb it into my own memory as truth. I simply am willing to learn, but I'm not willing to believe any claim made (sorry if I don't want to be naive or gullible).

Some of what you said didn't make sense, so I asked for clarification. I didn't mean to "make a storm in a water glass". I didn't realize asking questions to learn was a bad thing. I know I come off strong in the way I ask questions, but it isn't meant to anger, only for me to learn.

And I understand you said it was a Swedish company, hence the third link. But how does that help me learn if I can't read it?

Sorry for being testy.
I would happily have given you links and so on, but you came across as a wee bit of close to calling me a liar. Sorry for getting going.
Only thing I could do is translating it into english, but I guess that would be on the negative believabillity side. Learn swedish?

Take care!
Carl

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Ok, so let me re-phrase that. There was no popular or readily available 80186 computers made. They were short lived or only local favorites.

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any questimate as to when this will be fully operational?
I mean I have run seti a while but I am really not into crunching info and getting squat for it...
I know I have had to re run a few thousand credits worth of stuff but have nothing to show for it...
I had suspended all seti activity a while back then read everything was up and truth be told it isn't. I do not mean to sound how this is written, but...

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