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OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
Should something about this be put on the home page? I don't know about that... I think if a piece of software utilizes another piece of software (even if it's not created by the same company), they could still announce newer versions. I've seen this on many websites. Oh, and to answer your question, I checked the BOINC web page before I posted that, just to find out if they announced new versions on their home page (they don't). I'm very aware that BOINC has it's own web page, but that doesn't mean everyone else knows it (many still think BOINC is just an upgrade to SETI) nor does it mean that individual projects can't help make announcements to encourage everyone to upgrade. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0 ![]() |
My update is done now. I supposed the Boinc software would do upgrades of its own, when a new stable version would be available. Either you implement an automatic update in some future release (minimum would be to tell the user that an update is available) or you should make a sign on the main page that is showing the actual stable version. I would be satisfied with each of that solutions. If you check the message log (at least on the newer versions of BOINC), they DO send out a message that a newer version is available. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 ![]() |
My update is done now. I supposed the Boinc software would do upgrades of its own, when a new stable version would be available. Either you implement an automatic update in some future release (minimum would be to tell the user that an update is available) or you should make a sign on the main page that is showing the actual stable version. I would be satisfied with each of that solutions. Several reasons for not auto-updates are: Some business servers that are allowed to run BOINC can not have unknown updates just happening without intervention. 5.x has had Proxy issues so there are many still using 4.x for this reason. Not all OS's are supported by the Berkeley team, so some 3rd party items would probably break. ![]() My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Jan 01 Posts: 24 Credit: 2,194,285 RAC: 0 ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. There's a good idea. And it can be disable by default, or perhaps it can be an option at the end of the first "Attach to project" wizard (it could/should also be user configurable later via some option in the pull-down menus) asking "Would you like BOINC to auto-update itself with every new release?" The code can be left out for OSes and third party code that doesn't support it/might break it. |
pantera Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 13 Credit: 82,582 RAC: 0 ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. I have not been able to get any work since the 4th of may does it have to do with this update that you mention here or what thank you panteradgo |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
I have not been able to get any work since the 4th of may does it have to do with this update that you mention here or what No. It has nothing to do with what we were discussing at the end of this thread. If you read the posts from Matt Lebofsky (the one who starts every thread in the Tech Forum), you'll understand why you can't get any work. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. I've not seen an option in XP to upgrade automatically to Vista. |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. Would you want to if you could? 8-) Your point is understood, but there's a huge difference between BOINC and the Windows OS. One difference is that BOINC is offered for free while Windows isn't. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. I've seen Vista, it's visually compelling. It's also the biggest piece of nagware I've ever seen. It takes a lot more "computer" before it does any useful work. As a general rule, I don't like software that self-updates. I want to be aware of the changes so that if there is some impact, I know where to look. |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
As a general rule, I don't like software that self-updates. I want to be aware of the changes so that if there is some impact, I know where to look. Very understandable. There's many people out there with the same opinion. That's why you could always disable (or it should be disabled by default) the Auto-Update of BOINC, if it were to get such a feature. Others, who prefer to take the lazy route and have everything update for them, could enable it. |
Steve Shirkey Send message Joined: 2 Jun 03 Posts: 4 Credit: 70,079 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Results ready to send 1,178,910,606 11m Current result creation rate n/a 1m Results in progress 11m Workunits waiting for validation 11m Workunits waiting for assimilation 11m Workunits waiting for deletion 11m Results waiting for deletion 11m Transitioner backlog (hours) calc: 1m yahoo....heh (I know it's bogus) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Jul 00 Posts: 66 Credit: 492,766 RAC: 0 ![]() |
To do so you would have to trust Windoze with a credit card since XP to VISTA is not quite free ;-D there should be an option in the client to auto update to the latest official update or not, just like there is options to autoupdate most other applications and OSs. !!Stupidity should be PAINFUL!! ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 7 Apr 01 Posts: 172 Credit: 23,823,824 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The replacement science database server from Sun was last seen in Sacramento. That bodes well for being in the Bay Area and possibly in our hands sometime tomorrow. You know the drill on that by now. Hi Matt, Please, is it possible to place a post in read only where you can write the evolution of the situation ??? Everyone write and have suggestion. Very nice. It show how many persons support you. But I am sure there are a lot of people who only are interrested about the evolution. I mean, recept, start, test, integration of the new.. I fact ONLY technical news !!! I have not the time to read all the discussion. My team and me are only interrested about the technical situation. There are other forums to discuss !!! I hope you will find the time to read this. and act it We are with all the team ![]() |
mack_maurice Send message Joined: 21 Oct 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,003,747 RAC: 1 ![]() |
To whom this may concern: I have been running SETI for a while now, and have noticed that the server does not want to update my work processed. Is there something wrong with the system there? I have been trying now for the past two weeks with negative results on getting new work. Please help! Thanks. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 14 Credit: 4,592,515 RAC: 42 ![]() ![]() |
To whom this may concern: Thumper has been down...... |
QSilver Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 232 Credit: 6,452,764 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The replacement science database server from Sun was last seen in Sacramento. That bodes well for being in the Bay Area and possibly in our hands sometime tomorrow. You know the drill on that by now. Hey marsin! Any reason you had to spam 3 or 4 message threads with the same plea? Those of us who want technical news would prefer not to see you ask the same question in four places. QS |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51527 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
The replacement science database server from Sun was last seen in Sacramento. That bodes well for being in the Bay Area and possibly in our hands sometime tomorrow. You know the drill on that by now. Can anybody say 'Idiot'?? Sure you can. It's posts like that that make it harder to glean the useful information from the thread, no? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
As a general rule, I don't like software that self-updates. I want to be aware of the changes so that if there is some impact, I know where to look. One very good "trick" of automated Windows Update is to reboot the machine regardless of any long running jobs! All good insane stupidness in the extreme!! :-( I suppose Windows is fine for non-serious playing of games... (OK, so guess who's had some "Windows fun"...) Happy crunchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 ![]() |
this is why it is always a good idea to turn the Windows "auto update" feature (! - I call it a "bug"...) OFF as soon as you install Windows. (whatever version!) (it is on by default, something that BG will burn in [appropriate religion's place of eternal punishment] for...) I always take the "custom update" route when I do manual Win updates. (and refuse IE7 every time...) I also refuse anything to do with "CDRM" which is "copyright rights management". . ![]() Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
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