This is complete bull$hit. I would call sun and yell and scream like a customer at Walmart.

So you are saying scream at the company that donated you a $50,000 server because its gonna take another day or two to ship it? Nice attitude dood. Still mad Walmart didn't hire you?

Nice trendy, 80's way of spelling dude, dood. Yes, I would start yelling at them... let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

Anyway, get it up, get it running, and let's get crunching

let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

When they're working on my car for free, including all the replacement parts, then yes, I let them do it however the hell they want. You've never heard the phrase "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth"?

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Team: SETI.USA

I found it real sloppy off the organisation, that they didn't did the effort to mail al the volonteers off this long offline beeing. (mails for donations can wel).

The donation E-Mails took weeks to send. E-Mail just isn't that fast when you have hundreds of thousands of recipients.

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let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

Anyway, get it up, get it running, and let's get crunching

Been there, and at the time it was the car I could afford. I thanked the mechanic for his help and saved up some money and bought a newer car when I had the money.

We're talking about a $50,000 server. SETI doesn't have a spare $50k so they can afford to tell anyone to go jump. Sun is GIVING them a replacement FOR FREE.

Sun is being very cool and the folks at SETI are doing an incredible job given that they have practically no budget.

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I don't believe the new server is entirely FREE.

Eric posted the following a few days ago in another thread.

Close, but not quite. The v40z is jocelyn. Currently jocelyn is a replica of the BOINC database machine. Sidious is the current BOINC database. Thumper was the SETI@home science database and was a prototype Sun Fire X4500. The price tag on the replacement is a bit higher a v40z (even though they are currently on sale for $24,000) and we certainly are grateful to Sun for reducing that to a price we could afford.

The server should be in our hands sometime on Monday.

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Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....

let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

It's not about "cowering" and being agreeable - it's about not being an ass toward those that are doing you a favor.

I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of people out there that still think the only way to get things done is by being a demanding a*hole.


- Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
- Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You
- You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar
- A little kindness goes a long way
- Life isn't about how much you can get done, but how many lives you can touch in a positive way
- Destroy your enemies by making them your friends (I believe that was Abraham Lincoln)

Heard of any of those?

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I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of people out there that still think the only way to get things done is by being a demanding a*hole.

Used to have to deal with that type all too often in a previous job. The more noise they made, the further back in the queue they'd go.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Nice trendy, 80's way of spelling dude, dood. Yes, I would start yelling at them... let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

Anyway, get it up, get it running, and let's get crunching

Oh noes!!!11 It's the dreaded "I have nothing intelligent to say so I will have to resort to picking on a grammatical technicality and dodge your question with a petty insult" tactic!!!

Well to answer your question, I am actually the type that just calls out selfish ignorant people like yourself, and watches them continue to make a total ass of themselves if front of the entire seti@home community. Oh well, as the late Douglas Adams said: "You live and learn. At any rate, you live."

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Regarding Win2k/wk3 server box, no one forces you to reboot. It is yours, as an admin, decission to/when install updates and reboot. My Win2k3 desktop box is rebooted only once a month (due to updates). It works 24/7, use it to play, browse, code, test, emulate other OSes, write, and all typical desktop stuff, yet it hadn`t hanged/crashed since i installed Win2k3 there. Oh yes... it runs BOINC in the background...

My company`s server also runs Win2k3, and is rebooted less often. Its usuall uptime is over 100-120 days and reboots are also caused by windows updates. Apart from that - rock solid.

Please, stop useless Linux vs. Windows rants...

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Win2k3 has currently the most efficient NT kernel (NT 5.2 sp1)... and it runs on a weaker hardware than win2k server...

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I don't believe the new server is entirely FREE.

from the home page:

Sun is graciously replacing this server.

Eric posted the following a few days ago in another thread.

Close, but not quite. The v40z is jocelyn. Currently jocelyn is a replica of the BOINC database machine. Sidious is the current BOINC database. Thumper was the SETI@home science database and was a prototype Sun Fire X4500. The price tag on the replacement is a bit higher a v40z (even though they are currently on sale for $24,000) and we certainly are grateful to Sun for reducing that to a price we could afford.

The server should be in our hands sometime on Monday.

I don't know exactly what this means, but it sounds pretty inexpensive.

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This is complete bull$hit. I would call sun and yell and scream like a customer at Walmart.

So you are saying scream at the company that donated you a $50,000 server because its gonna take another day or two to ship it? Nice attitude dood. Still mad Walmart didn't hire you?

Nice trendy, 80's way of spelling dude, dood. Yes, I would start yelling at them... let me guess, you're the type that when the mechanic tells you that it's going to be another week, you cower and agree with them.

Anyway, get it up, get it running, and let's get crunching

Well, dude......
My best friend happens to also be my mechanic. We both work on weekends keeping my '85 RX7 GSLSE purring along. But I'm the type that realizes that when he's had a tough week working with top-paying customers, my work which he does for little or nothing is done on HIS schedule, not mine. It's not cowering, it's being a gentleman.
Suggest you consider the same.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Heck, if they want to send one out my way, I'd be willing to wait until friday AFTERNOON for it.
Hurry up and wait has always been an integral part of the IT world, and at the going price, replacing the "hurry up" with "drink beer" seems an elegant solution.

You can have the beer, I'll take a single-malt scotch, preferably an Islay.

Justin

Whatever happened to FedEx's slogan, "When it absolutely, positively HAS to be there overnite!"? Or was the new server shipped FedEx Ground?

(formerly worked for FedEx's competition...)

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

(formerly worked for FedEx's competition...)

You mean the company that has yet to find my two 20" widescreen monitors which have shown "out for delivery" since the 19th of last month??? You mean them?

(formerly worked for FedEx's competition...)

You mean the company that has yet to find my two 20" widescreen monitors which have shown "out for delivery" since the 19th of last month??? You mean them?

If ya mean UPS, yeah... (you did note the "formerly"?)

In your case, I'd file a claim with the carrier, and the shipper. I've heard of cases like yours, and it's either a dishonest employee, or the package was left in an insecure area. (the case I heard, it turned out to be the former)

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

As SETI is still taking in finished units, the deadline issue is a non issue. When units are sent out there will be appropriate deadlines based on past practice. (IMHO)

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There is still a deadline issue - it is currently very hard to report completed WU's, as the scheduler is dealing with huge numbers of "ronco boxes" ("set and forget") whose owners don't know of the work blackout. The boxes are bugging the scheduler for work, which makes a "reporting xx completed WUs" scheduler request time-out about 50-90% of the time. Even a simple "update my stats" scheduler request seldom goes thru...

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

While we are on the subject of deadlines, would it be possible for the wide AR WU's to have deadlines that don't trip the "Computer overcommited, processing earliest deadline first" - which they (before the blackout) currently do - a minimum deadline should be whatever is just short of tripping that, not 4 days!

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

While we are on the subject of deadlines, would it be possible for the wide AR WU's to have deadlines that don't trip the "Computer overcommited, processing earliest deadline first" - which they (before the blackout) currently do - a minimum deadline should be whatever is just short of tripping that, not 4 days!

Thats probability a consequence derived from your "connect to network" option. If deadline - ~1.5 days is shorter than connect to network option then it will enter EDF or equivalent.

Andy

Right. Which means there is never any way to carry more than 2.5 days worth of work, if you happen go be unlucky enough to have the short WUs in your queue. Not nearly enough when a project has frequent downtime. It would be better to have all WUs set with a deadline no shorter than about 14 days, even if they are small/fast WU.

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Dublin, California
Team: SETI.USA