I'll email them shortly.


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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

I have no real knowlege of servers, but what is the advantage of Sun's microprocessors, in performance, versus something like the quad core xeon?

I think the biggest advantage of the existing SUN machines is that they have them.

When they were purchased, they were state-of-the-art, and they've done yeoman service over the years. After something like a decade, they need to be replaced.

Note that servers don't always have to be super-fast crunchers, they generally benefit from lots of memory and fast hard disks.

A 400 MHz SPARC was incredibly cool back-in-the-day.

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

It should be there in a moment...

There is voicemail for Eric and Matt was added to the email...

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Pappa

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Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.

Ok,

Just waiting on a few more details so I can present a proposal.

Wish us luck!



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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

I have no real knowlege of servers, but what is the advantage of Sun's microprocessors, in performance, versus something like the quad core xeon?

I think the biggest advantage of the existing SUN machines is that they have them.

When they were purchased, they were state-of-the-art, and they've done yeoman service over the years. After something like a decade, they need to be replaced.

Note that servers don't always have to be super-fast crunchers, they generally benefit from lots of memory and fast hard disks.

A 400 MHz SPARC was incredibly cool back-in-the-day.

Way cool man!
I am so darnedly old that I actually have a hard time sending them to scrap. I would guess that I am right now the proud owner of the largest remaining collection of fully operational maxed out E5500. For many years those where in the cluster that drove the main optical link between europe and US. And now I get teary eyed even contemplating throwing them. Yes, the rest of my workplace laughs at me. But the revenge is mine. I am slowly reabuilding them as known.

Carl

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It is SEXY to DONATE!
Skype = demiurg2

Bad timing too, I was gone for 3 days so my computers had nothing to stop them from crunching... ran out of work after a day.

OOOH! I thought something was wrong with my computer when I kept getting:


5/5/2007 3:20:27 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: couldn't connect to server
5/5/2007 3:20:27 PM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 51 seconds
5/5/2007 3:20:29 PM||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
5/5/2007 3:22:09 PM||Rescheduling CPU: project suspended by user
5/5/2007 3:22:10 PM||Rescheduling CPU: project resumed by user
5/5/2007 3:22:23 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
5/5/2007 3:22:23 PM|SETI@home|Reason: Requested by user
5/5/2007 3:22:23 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work
5/5/2007 3:22:29 PM||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
5/5/2007 3:22:31 PM||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
5/5/2007 3:22:33 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: couldn't connect to server
5/5/2007 3:22:33 PM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 17 minutes and 12 seconds

Thanks for telling me!

or is my new configuration not allowing me to get new projects

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or is my new configuration not allowing me to get new projects

Yes, the server Thumper has made a Krapotkin and will thanks to the lovely sunny people on SUN be replaced on monday. Then there will be some testing, and hopefully we will get a trickle of WUs from wednesday on. But do not be to sad if there are non untill friday.

At the time being I recommend a visit to the Setiholic-thread in the café where we are commiserating each other.

Carl

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Skype = demiurg2

Way cool man!
I am so darnedly old that I actually have a hard time sending them to scrap. I would guess that I am right now the proud owner of the largest remaining collection of fully operational maxed out E5500. For many years those where in the cluster that drove the main optical link between Europe and US. And now I get teary eyed even contemplating throwing them. Yes, the rest of my workplace laughs at me. But the revenge is mine. I am slowly rebuilding them as known.

Carl

I know how you feel, I still have a 5 1/4" IBM 8088 & green screen monitor which I keep running, As well as two ATARI's.

Thanks for the Vote

Thumper's new name?

Status as 15:32 EST
1. Helios (Greco-Roman) Votes = 25 @ 58.14%
2. Apollo (Greco-Roman) Votes = 6 @ 13.95%
3. Shamash (Sumerian) Votes = 4 @ 9.30%

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[color= blue][u]SETI@home classic workunits = 5,906 with CPU time of 60,377 hours[/u][/color]

Per the other thread, the "Thumper" name will be retained.

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"Mayday! Mayday!" At 4:43 (PDT) this morning,
<i>swinging on the gallows pole</i>
our science database machine,
<i>earth</i>
thumper, became hasenfeffer.
<i>hassling hobbits</i>
It currently refuses to acknowledge that it has any disk drives.
<i>starships</i>
Since the controllers are attached to the motherboard,
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* * major repairs will probably be required.

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No work can be created until this machine gets fixed.
We are on the phone with Sun now in hopes of securing repair or a replacement.
<a href="http://www.solazone.com.au/index.html">SOLAZONE</a>

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Peace

Sorry your hotmetal modifications didn't work. I think brackets instead of tilted carets are supposed to be used. Instructions show where one writes a message.

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Please can someone clarify...

No work is coming from SETI because the project has run out of money so can't afford to mend/ replace its machinery?

From the frontpage:

May 1, 2007
Happy May Day. Unfortunately for us it's been "Mayday! Mayday!" At 4:43 (PDT) this morning, our science database machine, thumper, became hasenfeffer. It currently refuses to acknowledge that it has any disk drives. Since the controllers are attached to the motherboard, major repairs will probably be required. No work can be created until this machine gets fixed. We are on the phone with Sun now in hopes of securing repair or a replacement. More info in Technical News.


Se Matt Lebofsky's posts here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39188&nowrap=true#557665

and here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39211&nowrap=true#558284

A good idea is to read through the threads and else keep an eye on the Technical News board.

From the frontpage:

May 1, 2007
Happy May Day. Unfortunately for us it's been "Mayday! Mayday!" At 4:43 (PDT) this morning, our science database machine, thumper, became hasenfeffer. It currently refuses to acknowledge that it has any disk drives. Since the controllers are attached to the motherboard, major repairs will probably be required. No work can be created until this machine gets fixed. We are on the phone with Sun now in hopes of securing repair or a replacement. More info in Technical News.


Se Matt Lebofsky's posts here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39188&nowrap=true#557665

and here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39211&nowrap=true#558284

A good idea is to read through the threads and else keep an eye on the Technical News board.

a significant signal is being verified...yea !

I have no real knowlege of servers, but what is the advantage of Sun's microprocessors, in performance, versus something like the quad core xeon?

I think the biggest advantage of the existing SUN machines is that they have them.

When they were purchased, they were state-of-the-art, ... After something like a decade, they need to be replaced.

Note that servers don't always have to be super-fast crunchers, they generally benefit from lots of memory and fast hard disks. ...

Way cool man!
I am so darnedly old that I actually have a hard time sending them to scrap. I would guess that I am right now the proud owner of the largest remaining collection of fully operational maxed out E5500. For many years those where in the cluster that drove the main optical link between europe and US. ...

The advantage for using "servers" is that they have a good balance of Input-Output performance to match the CPU performance for the intended serving.

In contrast, quite often the "consumer desktop" machines are all CPU "GHz" and over-hyped graphics cards so that Marketing can quote "Big Numbers", and then (quietly) offer only pathetic IO bandwidth to still keep it all cheap. Very good for compute bound tasks such as s@h number crunching. Completely useless as a web server where there is more data IO than 'computing'.

Which comes to the trade-off or design compromises that must be made between whatever CPU/Motherboard system you choose to use. You can get a better balance of CPU performance and IO performance for a given task to give maximum throughput depending on what you choose and how the system is used.

(Note: No CPU manufacturer comparisons there! ;-) )

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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and then (quietly) offer only pathetic IO bandwidth to still keep it all cheap.

For once, we agree. Imagine that... :)

It becomes somewhat obscene when you look at what Western Digital gets away with for a price premium on the Raptor line... We won't even get into discussing having SCSI in a traditional desktop...

All that being said, I'll still likely be paying that price premium for the Raptor for my next system's OS drive at least...

Well one gets what one pays for, My 5 Raptors have been doing pretty good for the last 7 months and they've been running 24/7, So no complaints here. :D

I didn't say that they weren't good, I said that the price premium is quite obscene.

Anyway, the HDD is a major bottleneck. Eventually it will go the way of the dinosaur...and we'll have solid state drives, but not for quite some time, as you want to talk about *really extreme* price premiums! I have a 200GB Seagate 7200 RPM drive. I'm seeing that the estimated price/GB is currently around $10 for Solid State. That means the same capacity drive would run me $2,000!