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Blurf 发送消息 已加入:2 Sep 06 贴子:8939 积分:12,678,685 近期平均积分:0
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To a point I would disagree... I use Essential Oils (Peppermint, Lemon Grass and others) and it works as an anti-inflammatory for me for a swollen elbow. I've been able to avoid having it drained and it keeps the skin smooth to avoid puncturing and a likely infection. In my case non-traditional therapy (aromatherapy) has been incredibly useful |
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AC 发送消息 已加入:22 Jan 05 贴子:3413 积分:119,579 近期平均积分:0
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I agree that there are like you said, snake-oil salesmen out there. But if there are natural remedies that help fight illness, like traditional herbs, many people can make an educated decision if they should take them or not. I wish there were more studies on herbal medicines. Whenever I hear about a natural remedie for something on the news, they almost always say that it isn't endorsed by the mainstream medical community. |
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AC 发送消息 已加入:22 Jan 05 贴子:3413 积分:119,579 近期平均积分:0
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They are drug dealers, there is no profit in a cure, the profit is in the come back. If true, people have to be made aware of it. And if drug companies are keeping potential cures secret, they should be prosecuted for letting people die. |
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AC 发送消息 已加入:22 Jan 05 贴子:3413 积分:119,579 近期平均积分:0
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The only conspiracy I could think of would be that if the people don't get cured, they have to keep buying the medicine for the symptoms. That's what I was thinking as well. But it's hard for me to accept that the people at those companies would actually get away with it. Not impossible for me to accept, just hard. Right now, there is a bill in one of the Houses that would allow the FDA to make natural remedies ( such as herbs like St John's Wort ) available only by a prescription. You would no longer be able to buy natural medicines over the counter. Now there's something interesting. For years they've been saying that natural remedies don't have any real benefits and now they want you to only get them with a drug prescription. So, anyone caught selling chamomile or fennel tea would be considered a drug dealer. Excellent plan. I don't know what remedies are on their list so I just considered those. |
Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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No arguments on most issues, KM. Being from a family that has cardio issues I'm a big believer in Omega 3 fish oil and have taken assorted Vitamin C herbal compounds for years and have been flu free since. That's perfectly fine, Kenzie. It was a valid argument from what I could see...lol I understand your point about the " snake oil " people. Lots of gullible folks out there. Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Allie in Vancouver 发送消息 已加入:16 Mar 07 贴子:3949 积分:1,604,668 近期平均积分:0
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I'm guessing that most most herbal/natural cures are just pandering to a hopeful but uneducated public. No arguments at all Jeffrey. Just concerned that when things get ugly, folks not put their faith entirely in the holistic cures. Massive modern medical intervention is not all bad was my point.:)) Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein |
Allie in Vancouver 发送消息 已加入:16 Mar 07 贴子:3949 积分:1,604,668 近期平均积分:0
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No arguments on most issues, KM. Being from a family that has cardio issues I'm a big believer in Omega 3 fish oil and have taken assorted Vitamin C herbal compounds for years and have been flu free since. I'm just concerned about folks who see the snake-oil salesman on late night TV and don't head to the ER when the chest pain starts 'cause they are taking whatever buddy says. When the crap hits the fan a good ER doc and his modern (drug company based) medicine can keep a person living and grinning.:)) Besides, I'm a little tipsy and argumentitive tonight. You know how I get... Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein |
Jeffrey 发送消息 已加入:21 Nov 03 贴子:4793 积分:26,029 近期平均积分:0 |
I'm guessing that most most herbal/natural cures are just pandering to a hopeful but uneducated public. There is some truth to herbal/natural cures, they just don't work as fast as medicines do, making them better used as a preventative rather than as a cure... Olives, St John's Wort, and VitaminC are just a few good examples that come to mind... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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I would normally be the last person the plead the case of the drug companies, but there is more short term profit in the cure. Imagine a cure for AIDS or breast cancer or whatever. Forget the ‘come back’ potential, imagine the initial profit in any of those ‘cures.’ we’re talking not billions but trillions of dollars in profit. And drug companies, like all bushiness’ are all about making money in the short term. If they had a 'cure' for any and all they'd market it. Then again, they could very well convince their investors and board members that the " long term " profits would be MUCH higer if they didn't market it. I'm guessing that most most herbal/natural cures are just pandering to a hopeful but uneducated public. Hmmmm.....I'm not so sure about that Kenzie. I have used St John's Wort on several occasions. I still do take it occasionally. I don't take a whole bunch of different natural remedies, but I have to say that what I do take is effective. Also keep in mind that a lot of the natural remedies are used as a last resort by people who haven't found any relief with prescription meds. Another thing to keep in mind is that the natural remedies that do what they say they are supposed to do are usually MUCH cheaper to buy than the prescription drugs ( even the generic versions ). Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Allie in Vancouver 发送消息 已加入:16 Mar 07 贴子:3949 积分:1,604,668 近期平均积分:0
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I would normally be the last person the plead the case of the drug companies, but there is more short term profit in the cure. Imagine a cure for AIDS or breast cancer or whatever. Forget the ‘come back’ potential, imagine the initial profit in any of those ‘cures.’ we’re talking not billions but trillions of dollars in profit. And drug companies, like all bushiness’ are all about making money in the short term. If they had a 'cure' for any and all they'd market it. I'm guessing that most most herbal/natural cures are just pandering to a hopeful but uneducated public. Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein |
Red Atomic 发送消息 已加入:22 Jun 99 贴子:2624 积分:840,335 近期平均积分:0
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They are drug dealers, there is no profit in a cure, the profit is in the come back. Join Calm Chaos |
Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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The only conspiracy I could think of would be that if the people don't get cured, they have to keep buying the medicine for the symptoms. Right now, there is a bill in one of the Houses that would allow the FDA to make natural remedies ( such as herbs like St John's Wort ) available only by a prescription. You would no longer be able to buy natural medicines over the counter. Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
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AC 发送消息 已加入:22 Jan 05 贴子:3413 积分:119,579 近期平均积分:0
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Anyone ever wonder what happened to all of those disease cures that were "so close"? I can remember hearing for many years that researchers knew so much about a particular disease that it was only a short matter of time until a cure would be found. I was reading this book called Natural Cures "They" Don’t Want You to Know About by Kevin Trudeau. In the book Trudeau basically says that there is a conspiracy to keep knowledge about natural cures secret. He says that the FDA is involved. Apparently the issue is so hot that the government has been strong-arming Trudeau from talking about these "natural cures". So now I wonder, if there is a conspiracy like this, could there also be a conspiracy by drug companies to keep cures for major diseases to themselves. What would they have to gain or lose if they did? |
Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST A pioneer in the emerging field of Human BioAcoustics, Sharry Edwards will discuss her computer voice analysis system that allows her to analyze a person's intent and health. Free Streaming Radio courtesy of KFI in Los Angeles Free Internet Stream for folks outside the US Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles 发送消息 已加入:3 Apr 99 贴子:9659 积分:251,998 近期平均积分:0 |
I have seen that video on a couple of occasions. The only thing I can think of is that the cop car missed the actual place where the " ghost car " went past the fence. That was my thought too, that the police car didn't turn off the road the same place as the car, and I couldn't see those "faces" either, even how much I used my imagination. To me it was one of those police videos they show and they are not very detailed. And it's taking place at night, so seeing it on the small screen without the full vision is not saying much. I think it was a person, who knew the area well, who ducked so you can't see the driver (I think the close ups looks like the seat with the headrest), and the police car turned away from the road at least 10 - 15 meters further down the road than the car. There seem to be a lot of those videos on YouTube, I watched a few of them, and I couldn't see any ghosts on them, only some screaming people in a dark car, who reacted like they saw something. Which is easy in the night, where you can't determine distance as good as at daylight. So those "ghost cars" can be cars determined at the wrong distance, so they "disappear" because they are farther away than determined. And my God, there are some hoaxes also, videos where you just waste your time seeing nothing. :-O "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Sarge 发送消息 已加入:25 Aug 99 贴子:11664 积分:8,569,109 近期平均积分:79
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I guess he hasn't clicked the link since I replaced the video. I didn't know sasquach was so talented. I believe I saw most to all of them several months ago. Not going to take the time right now to search the old threads. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Labbie 发送消息 已加入:19 Jun 06 贴子:4083 积分:5,930,102 近期平均积分:0
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Or that the fence was only connected to the posts at the top and the chain link just lifted up as the car went under it. Calm Chaos Forum...Join Calm Chaos Now |
Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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I have seen that video on a couple of occasions. The only thing I can think of is that the cop car missed the actual place where the " ghost car " went past the fence. There may be an opening on the left that wasn't seen on the video. In the " More Detailed " video, the person points out that the face is very pale with hollow eyes ( or something like that ). So what?? Most Caucasians would look pale in the direct light of car headlights. Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles 发送消息 已加入:3 Apr 99 贴子:9659 积分:251,998 近期平均积分:0 |
NYPD Ghost car chase Ghost car more detailed So, what do you think? "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me
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Knightmare 发送消息 已加入:16 Aug 04 贴子:7472 积分:94,252 近期平均积分:0
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Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST Sun 05.06 >> Roboticist and writer Daniel H. Wilson will discuss the current state of robotics as well as the future implications of various robotic applications and AI. Free Streaming Radio courtesy of KFI in Los Angeles Free Internet Stream for folks outside the US Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome |
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