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Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 564376 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 7:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 564371. <=== way too tired to continue this conversation. I love you anyway.... I wish I had a 'hug smiley' but this is the best I got... Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 564376 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 564371 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 7:01:16 UTC <=== way too tired to continue this conversation. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 564371 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 564369 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 6:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 564360. .....so back to square 1 Has anyone ever made it to square 2? ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 564369 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 564360 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 6:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 564350. Last modified: 10 May 2007, 6:56:03 UTC Would a rational man do? :-) No one is perfectly rational. Sounds like 'loser talk'. edit....of course you haven't met 'all' men. Even if you had what would be classified as a 'rational man' doesn't incorporate temporal facts that you describe as 'all the time'. If it does then that means there is no such thing as a rational man. This to me is funny because the inversion of this concept is never employed. Noone ever says, 'There is no such thing as an irrational man'..... The logical attack is directed at Reason. Not the other way around... In dealing with proposition functions, it is sufficient to find one example that makes the statement false to declare the entire statement "all people are rational all the time" false. And NOBODY ever claimed that 'all men are rational all the time'.....so back to square 1 No no...and yes. I fully understand what your complaint to the argument is. Generally though in philosophic arguments there is provision for samples that support premises. "All birds have wings"-----and this sort of thing. Now, of course someone can produce a bird that has had both wings amputated. This customarily doesn't infringe upon the validity of the argument. After all what it is we are trying to do is explore the truth, not pick apart details. The fundamentals of what my implicit argument and observational posits are intact? Are they not? Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 564360 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 564350 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 6:47:40 UTC - in response to Message 564333. Would a rational man do? :-) No one is perfectly rational. Sounds like 'loser talk'. edit....of course you haven't met 'all' men. Even if you had what would be classified as a 'rational man' doesn't incorporate temporal facts that you describe as 'all the time'. If it does then that means there is no such thing as a rational man. This to me is funny because the inversion of this concept is never employed. Noone ever says, 'There is no such thing as an irrational man'..... The logical attack is directed at Reason. Not the other way around... In dealing with proposition functions, it is sufficient to find one example that makes the statement false to declare the entire statement "all people are rational all the time" false. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 564350 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 564333 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 6:01:07 UTC - in response to Message 563838. Last modified: 10 May 2007, 6:04:55 UTC Would a rational man do? :-) No one is perfectly rational. Sounds like 'loser talk'. edit....of course you haven't met 'all' men. Even if you had what would be classified as a 'rational man' doesn't incorporate temporal facts that you describe as 'all the time'. If it does then that means there is no such thing as a rational man. This to me is funny because the inversion of this concept is never employed. Noone ever says, 'There is no such thing as an irrational man'..... The logical attack is directed at Reason. Not the other way around... Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 564333 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 563838 - Posted: 9 May 2007, 18:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 563528. Would a rational man do? :-) No one is perfectly rational. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 563838 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 563528 - Posted: 9 May 2007, 5:37:55 UTC Would a rational man do? :-) ID: 563528 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 563519 - Posted: 9 May 2007, 4:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 562765. ok ok ok... Consider it reconsidered... ;) Now ... where's Chuck? :) Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 563519 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 562765 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 6:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 562755. ok ok ok... Consider it reconsidered... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 562765 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 562762 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 6:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 562760. especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder. How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;) Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder? Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider. Or, from the other side ... getting limbs blown off in Vietnam and ending up with post-traumatic stress syndrome was the top of the ladder? And to be sarcastic ... who worked at the McDonald's' of the time if not the boomers? Infants? Senior citizens? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 562762 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 562760 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 6:20:08 UTC - in response to Message 562755. especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder. How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;) Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder? Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider. Or, from the other side ... getting limbs blown off in Vietnam and ending up with post-traumatic stress syndrome was the top of the ladder? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 562760 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 562755 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 6:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 562740. especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder. How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;) Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder? Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 562755 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 562740 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 6:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 562726. especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder. How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 562740 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213	Message 562730 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 5:46:02 UTC Ummm, the Gen'X-ers are now well into their 30s and some are close to pushing 40. If you think they're still like that, you must think they still live with their parents or are homeless. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 562730 ·

BillHyland Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 04 Posts: 907 Credit: 5,764,172 RAC: 0	Message 562726 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 5:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 562614. Just curious: what led you to aerotek.com? When you're job hunting, there are only two guarantees: one - You will evoke americas job bank... two - You will be screened by aerotek... Jeffery, you do realize that Aerotek is one of the largest technical staffing company, don't you? Damn near every nickle & dime staffing outfit wants Aerotek to look at resumes and applications that go through their server because most applicants do not get a hit on their first application and Aerotek pays a finder's fee if they can land someone a job on the nickle & dime outfit's applicant. No big conspiracy, just people doing the business of trying to find you a job. Now, as we have discussed before, if you do not have marketable skills, jobs will be harder to find, especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder. And before you start off on a snit, I was speaking in general, not at you in particular. As you well know, I have no idea of your age or educational references. ID: 562726 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 562651 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 2:52:34 UTC - in response to Message 562614. Just curious: what led you to aerotek.com? When you're job hunting, there are only two guarantees: one - You will evoke americas job bank... two - You will be screened by aerotek... Then, if you make it through that nightmare, you might actually get to talk to the company clown... ;) LOL Funny! This is a true story: a guy put an ad in the newspaper saying "I am shiftless and lazy, hate to work, don't get along with my peers, and can't follow orders. What've you got for me?". The guy got several offers and landed a job the same week! ID: 562651 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 562614 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 0:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 562352. Just curious: what led you to aerotek.com? When you're job hunting, there are only two guarantees: one - You will evoke americas job bank... two - You will be screened by aerotek... Then, if you make it through that nightmare, you might actually get to talk to the company clown... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 562614 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 562354 - Posted: 7 May 2007, 18:29:56 UTC 2(6)00* BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 562354 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 562352 - Posted: 7 May 2007, 18:28:20 UTC - in response to Message 562344. Last modified: 7 May 2007, 18:29:50 UTC $traceroute aerotek.com traceroute to aerotek.com (216.152.109.97), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 My Server.com (xx.xx.xx.xx) 321.257 ms 111.644 ms 111.864 ms 2 10.105.203.1 (10.105.203.1) 254.097 ms 10.105.202.1 (10.105.202.1) 111.939 ms 10.105.203.1 (10.105.203.1) 106.619 ms 3 10.1.4.1 (10.1.4.1) 258.195 ms 133.845 ms 137.592 ms 4 My Server.com (xx.xx.xx.xxx) 256.955 ms 136.687 ms 137.429 ms 5 10.1.1.1 (10.1.1.1) 264.222 ms 131.233 ms 137.797 ms 6 g0-10.na22.b000899-0.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.205.85) 260.893 ms 136.693 ms 132.226 ms 7 g9-2.102-core01.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.39.33) 262.32 ms 134.546 ms 132.197 ms 8 p0-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.241) 263.395 ms 137.42 ms 137.562 ms 9 t3-1.mpd01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.102) 263.148 ms 136.307 ms 137.073 ms 10 t3-2.mpd01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.190) 267.677 ms 135.897 ms 137.229 ms 11 g2-0-0.core01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.22) 264.577 ms 140.428 ms 136.554 ms 12 uunet.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.12.246) 268.407 ms 140.211 ms 136.512 ms 13 0.so-6-0-0.xt2.lax7.alter.net (152.63.112.154) 266.72 ms 136.869 ms 136.604 ms 14 0.so-1-1-2.xt2.dca6.alter.net (152.63.0.189) 268.153 ms 212.799 ms 213.172 ms 15 pos7-0.gw1.dca6.alter.net (152.63.32.225) 267.115 ms 213.675 ms 212.675 ms 16 allegis-gw2.customer.alter.net (63.81.57.50) 269.466 ms 214.016 ms 212.887 ms 17 * ^C $traceroute aerotek.com traceroute to aerotek.com (216.152.109.97), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 My Server.com (xx.xx.xx.xx) 358.776 ms 113.37 ms 109.909 ms 2 10.105.203.1 (10.105.203.1) 276.97 ms 10.105.202.1 (10.105.202.1) 111.527 ms 102.772 ms 3 10.1.4.1 (10.1.4.1) 265.422 ms 134.895 ms 139.61 ms 4 My Server.com (xx.xx.xx.x) 281.277 ms 138.057 ms 137.66 ms 5 g0-10.na22.b000899-0.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.205.85) 265.427 ms 134.041 ms 137.201 ms 6 g1-0.101-core01.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.39.29) 264.982 ms 139.414 ms 136.505 ms 7 p0-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.241) 273.617 ms 136.084 ms 136.91 ms 8 t8-1.mpd01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.118) 265.734 ms 135.07 ms 136.933 ms 9 t3-2.mpd01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.190) 274.758 ms 138.837 ms 136.157 ms 10 g2-0-0.core01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.22) 272.563 ms 138.02 ms 136.909 ms 11 uunet.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.12.246) 268.8 ms 139.169 ms 137.64 ms 12 0.so-6-0-0.xt1.lax7.alter.net (152.63.112.42) 265.072 ms 139.175 ms 137.981 ms 13 0.so-4-2-0.xt1.dca6.alter.net (152.63.40.45) 267.387 ms 200.79 ms 201.812 ms 14 pos6-0.gw1.dca6.alter.net (152.63.32.221) 285.522 ms 201.539 ms 202.646 ms 15 allegisgroup-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.211.178) 277.532 ms 209.451 ms 205.864 ms 16 * ^C Care to discuss??? ;) Just curious: what led you to aerotek.com? It seeems like a "B-B-B-Bad to the Bone" site, judging from your traceroute. ID: 562352 ·

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