Have updated the seti folder,do i need to that manually or is it sopposed to be automatic.

you can just leave it, they will normally get reported as/when boinc asks for new work (we just helped things along a bit)

have done the concatenate,this is what it returned,looks ok to me

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ cat run_manager
export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox
cd "/home/david/BOINC" && exec ./boincmgr $@
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$

yep, that looks good.
would be worth you just re-reading what we did there, so you understand what happened.

Yes you certainly cant argue about the difficulties we have had arriving here,but
i must say i have enjoyed it immensely and have certainly learnt in the process.

Its all part of the fun mate.
I'm sure most of us forget the struggles we had with win95/98/xp etc

I dont know whether this is protocol or not but if you should like to have a chat i am happy to post my e-mail

Yep, i'm up for that.
But this isn't the right place and spammers being what they are, its not a good idea to post your email in open forums, .
I'm a member of UK BOINC Team and we have a forum at http://forum.ukboincteam.com/ you're more than welcome to pop in and we can have that chat

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Sorry missed that post.

Tried SETI but it didnt bring up the browser but that was before i did your console entry

Did the console entry, it then threw a wobbly might as well be swahili for me, as follows

david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ cd
david@XANXLHNLM30:~$ cat .bashrc

# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
# for examples

# If not running interactively, don't do anything:
[ -z "$PS1" ] && return

# don't put duplicate lines in the history. See bash(1) for more options
#export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups

# check the window size after each command and, if necessary,
# update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
shopt -s checkwinsize

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then
eval "`dircolors -b`"
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
#alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
#alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
fi

# some more ls aliases
#alias ll='ls -l'
#alias la='ls -A'
#alias l='ls -CF'

# set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
if [ -z "$debian_chroot" -a -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
fi

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
case "$TERM" in
xterm-color)
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\\[\\033[01;32m\\]\\u@\\h\\[\\033[00m\\]:\\[\\033[01;34m\\]\\w\\[\\033[00m\\]\\$ '
;;
*)
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\\u@\\h:\\w\\$ '
;;
esac

# Comment in the above and uncomment this below for a color prompt
#PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\\[\\033[01;32m\\]\\u@\\h\\[\\033[00m\\]:\\[\\033[01;34m\\]\\w\\[\\033[00m\\]\\$ '

# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case "$TERM" in
xterm*|rxvt*)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}\\007"'
;;
*)
;;
esac

# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
# this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profiles
# sources /etc/bash.bashrc).
#if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
# . /etc/bash_completion
#fi
export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox
which firefox
export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox
export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~$

I hope that means something to you

Concatenate isnt that a wonderful word if you asked someone "have you concatenated today" they would probably want to flatten you,i must try it,would be a good stir

Yes you are absolutely correct in what you say,my belief is that there are wider issues at work here,the muslim world sees the western world in decline at least morally and sees an oportunitity to reassert itself and establish world wide pre-eminence,to short a forum here to develop that theme,but as usual it is the innocents who cop the broad end in this case the British sailors.

Have updated the seti folder,do i need to that manually or is it sopposed to be automatic.

have done the concatenate,this is what it returned,looks ok to me

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ cat run_manager
export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox
cd "/home/david/BOINC" && exec ./boincmgr $@
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$

Yes you certainly cant argue about the difficulties we have had arriving here,but i must say i have enjoyed it immensely and have certainly learnt in the process.

I dont know whether this is protocol or not but if you should like to have a chat i am happy to post my e-mail i would enjoy getting a sensible viewpoint on events on the other side of the world,i would guess you are quite a bit younger than i so it is always interesting getting a younger persons point of view ,they will control the destinies long after i'm gone.I believe the post war generation has made a pretty ordinary fist of running things and should get the hell out of the way the world is changing to fast for us old foggies

Yeah, you've got some credit!!
nice going mate.

I think the editing of .bashrc went a bit wrong, so can you type the following

cd
cat .bashrc

and let me know what it says


And does boincmgr load up firefox when you click the Seti@Home button?

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Good Morning my friend,
Tell me whats the reaction in England to the arrest of the sailors by Iran,it
most cetainly is dangerous and raises the bar on an already tense and difficult
situation viz a viz the Iraq imbroglio.

Hmmn, tricky
Apart from whether we should even be there in the first place....
It seems to me that the Royal Navy can no doubt produce evidence showing they weren't in Iranian waters and I'm sure the Iranians can produce evidence saying they were.
We will never know if they were or weren't.
But, if they weren't, then Iran needs a good bollocking and if they were, the Iranians are fully justified in what they're doing.
Like I said, we'll never know what actually happened.

I was waiting to see what transpired with boinc it had downloaded two more work units and i just
wanted to make sure that it changed over which it did ok,interestingly it obvivously treats the
two cores as two separate cpu's but they process at different speeds quite noticeably about 6% which i
guess is logical ihad just never thought about it.

Yep, I can see that its downloaded 2 more work units.
but it hasn't returned the 2 completed ones yet.
In boinc manager, click on the Projects tab, highlight the seti project and click the Update button.
That should report the 2 completed results and you'll be on the way to getting some credit.

I copied and pasted your instructions into the console,it doesnt seem to have done anything at least on the surface

you're right, you won't see anything happen but if you did exactly as I showed you, run_manager will now be different.
type "cat run_manager" and you should see the BROWSER thing as the 1st line (cat is just like TYPE in msdos, it means concatenate, try "man cat")

Hope that is as it is supposed to be,should i reboot or not.

yep, that looks good, no need for a reboot

Ideally i would like seti to run in the background all the time starting
from when i log on,if i read you correctly that is what these instructions will
do,currently you have to start SETI manually and it willonly continue running
with the RUN_MANAGER and BOINC MANAGER(LOCAL HOST) minimised in the task bar
which is somewhat unsatisfactory.

Yes, at the moment you need to run run_manager and have boincmgr each time you login.
Lets make sure everything is working before we go further.
Considering the difficulty we've had getting here, making it always run in the background is gonna be a bit tricky for you.

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Oh by the way ,it slipped my mind. i restarted the firewall which didn't seem to have any effect on procedings,i also checked the firewall incoming permission and based on them i don't think it will make any difference about the only thing it doesnt allow in is ned kelly

Good Morning my friend,
Tell me whats the reaction in England to the arrest of the sailors by Iran,it most cetainly is dangerous and raises the bar on an already tense and difficult situation viz a viz the Iraq imbroglio.

I was waiting to see what transpired with boinc it had downloaded two more work units and i just wanted to make sure that it changed over which it did ok,interestingly it obvivously treats the two cores as two separate cpu's but they process at different speeds quite noticeably about 6% which i guess is logical ihad just never thought about it.

I copied and pasted your instructions into the console,it doesnt seem to have done anything at least on the surface

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ echo "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox" > envfile
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ cp run_manager run_manager.orig
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ cat run_manager >> envfile
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ mv envfile run_manager
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ chmod 755 run_manager
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$

Hope that is as it is supposed to be,should i reboot or not.

Ideally i would like seti to run in the background all the time starting from when i log on,if i read you correctly that is what these instructions will do,currently you have to start SETI manually and it willonly continue running with the RUN_MANAGER and BOINC MANAGER(LOCAL HOST) minimised in the task bar which is somewhat unsatisfactory.

Goodness gracious what a long winded load of palaver hope you can make sense of it.

Good morning mate, or good evening

Well, if you're happy running run_manager,it seems you've got boinc/seti running now from what you said.

Only problem is still this BROWSER issue
So, to get round it we can run some commands that will put the BROWSER bit into run_manager.

If you're happy doing it, you'll need to stop boinc/boincmgr and then type the following 5 commands exactly as they appear below.
Even copy & paste them to make sure

echo "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox" > envfile
cp run_manager run_manager.orig
cat run_manager >> envfile
mv envfile run_manager
chmod 755 run_manager


The 1st line puts "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox" into a temporary file (envfile)
line 2 just makes a backup copy of run_manager
line 3 adds the contents of run_manager into the temp file (envfile)
line 4 renames envfile to run_manager
and line 5 sets the permissions on run_manager as they should be

Now, run_manager should be just as it was but also set the BROWSER variable before running boincmgr.
So, now when you run ./run_manager, it should DAMNED WELL WORK !!!
hehe

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Gidday Mate,
Now there is a genuine Australia-nism probably incomprehensible to most of the english speaking world generally means hello how the devil are you or something similar.

Had a poke around seti only seems to work when the RUN_MANAGER is enabled which then brings up the BOINC MANAGER which is empty but loads after a couple of seconds and commences to work.

Also ran the 3d graphics display from the manager(which incidentally needs drivers) it works but i had a look at a mate of mines and his had a display below the SETI@HOME logo although i cant remember exactly what it displayed,it may have been just statistics,but it is cetainly doing something maybe you can tell from your end.

I will cotinue to look around my gut feeling is i have broken something.

Good morning Temujin,
how are you fit and rested for the rigors ahead trying to get this infernal program to boinc as it should.Don't you just hate cheerful morning people,they should at least be excommunicated or worse,i am scarcely intelligible till 10 am,however i have been down this morning to my local coffee shop for a caffeine injection so i'm on top of my game which i have to confess is not terribly high these days.

I went in to see if SETI was working and all appeared to be going i then in the BOINC manager(local host) clicked on the seti website tag and received the message below,which would indicate to me that it isn't working correctly.Whether its is repairable i'm not sure.

My view is that when i origanally installed program through Synaptic and couldn't get it to work,i then downloaded it from the boinc site installed it still could not set that envoironmental varible thing so i uninstalled it by simply removing all componets to the trash bin in disgust then relented and pulled it back out in doing this i think i have broken something.normally with Xandros you use Xandros networks to install programs and it gets very stroppy if you don't.i didn't,and when i went in several days ago to install something else there was seti still trying to connect.Ah well that will teach me maybe it will be a reinstall.damm,dash and blast.

That's a pretty long winded explanation.If you could give me a yell when convienent i would appreciate it. Thanks mate.

Hmm the health issue is not the best and it wont be going away so no good grisling about it you just have to live with these things

I shall await your reply with baited breath and great expectation of miracles or at least some hope that i dont have to reinstall










BOINC Manager tried to display the web page
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8607094
but couldn't find a web browser.
To fix this, set the environment variable
BROWSER to the path of your web browser,
then restart the BOINC Manager.

Exactly what do you want me to do in RUN_CLIENT again not really clear,at least for my befuddled brain.

you don't need to do anything to it, just run it by typing "./run_client"
BUT
You were there when you ran run_manager, boinc was running, boincmgr was running and they were talking to each other.
You had Exactly what you wanted.

The only difference with running run_manager and running run_client is that with run_manager you have to have boincmgr running all the time, if you exit boincmgr you will also cause boinc to stop.
By running run_client, boinc will happily run in the background and you can start/stop boincmgr as and when you want.

I hope you have a job where you can spend the time you are giving to without getting into strife.

yeah, i can get away with it :-)

No i dont sleep terribly well lucky if i get several hours a night(health issues the joys of growing old) actually it is 1.47am still early,dont know what for but what the hell i aint going nowhere

I hope the health issues are nothing serious mate

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Are you suggesting it is actually WORKING if so MAFEKING IS RELIVED.

Im not so sure ran top cant copy and paste result but i cant see young SETI pumping away in there by the way the q command didnt seem to work said command not found. i will go have some shuteye now and give you a yell tomorrow if that is ok with you.

Mate if we have cracked it i owe you a couple of beers good Australian beer of course not that dreadful English beer

BOINC RUN_MANAGER which automatically brought up BOINC MANAGER(LOCAL HOST) which had seti in the projects tab and showing the two cores in the tasks tab which look to be working

Cool, thats what you want !!
you can always run "top" at any time to see whats running on your machine.
With boinc running you should see 2 seti processes at the top of the list.
You can exit top by pressing q

,however when i bought up BOINC MANAGER i got the following box message
AUTHORISATION FAILED CONNECTING TO RUNNING CLIENT.MAKE SURE YOU START THIS PROGRAM IN THE SAME DIRECTORY AS THE CLIENT

why not just leave the boincmgr that run_manager started?
that worked didn't it?

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Exactly what do you want me to do in RUN_CLIENT again not really clear,at least for my befuddled brain.

I hope you have a job where you can spend the time you are giving to without getting into strife.

No i dont sleep terribly well lucky if i get several hours a night(health issues the joys of growing old) actually it is 1.47am still early,dont know what for but what the hell i aint going nowhere

Strange looking around in boinc(probably a bad thing to do)i got the following opened

BOINC RUN_MANAGER which automatically brought up BOINC MANAGER(LOCAL HOST) which had seti in the projects tab and showing the two cores in the tasks tab which look to be working,however when i bought up BOINC MANAGER i got the following box message
AUTHORISATION FAILED CONNECTING TO RUNNING CLIENT.MAKE SURE YOU START THIS PROGRAM IN THE SAME DIRECTORY AS THE CLIENT

So i guess they are not talking to one another.How to make them???? the large computer adjustment tool is always avalible for recalcitrant computers.

Oh by the way i did all this with the firewall turned off

then did the grep this is what it returned

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ ps -ef|grep boinc
david 14010 5346 0 00:45 ? 00:00:00 [boincmgr] <defunct>
david 23872 5346 0 01:05 ? 00:00:00 [boincmgr] <defunct>
david 25355 25073 0 01:08 pts/1 00:00:00 grep boinc
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$

boinc manager still not working.

thats because you still haven't got boinc running
have you run "run_client" ??

I can turn the firewall off if necessary having just come from disastershaft i would be loath to do so.

Wait untill you've got both boinc and boincmgr running and if they're still not talking, try turning your firewall off and see if that improves things

How clever leaving out the - i must be getting tired

yep, you have to be very careful with some linux commands

And, as it must be gone 2am down there, don't you ever sleep??

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did echo browser it returned /usr/bin/firefox so i guess thats ok then did the grep this is what it returned

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ ps -ef|grep boinc
david 14010 5346 0 00:45 ? 00:00:00 [boincmgr] <defunct>
david 23872 5346 0 01:05 ? 00:00:00 [boincmgr] <defunct>
david 25355 25073 0 01:08 pts/1 00:00:00 grep boinc
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$


boinc manager still not working.

I can turn the firewall off if necessary having just come from disastershaft i would be loath to do so.

How clever leaving out the - i must be getting tired

ok did thf grep thing the console went mad here is what it did

thats just because you did "ps ef" rather than "ps -ef", nothing to worry about

Yes it is behind a firewall it is a Xandros proprieaty program so i dont know much about it assume its just a hips program

that may be why boinc and boincmgr aren't talking.
I'm not too hot on linux firewalls, don't run one meself
you may have to fiddle with it a bit

Hmmm i wondered about that "usr/bin/firefox" to i thoght it had to be there but it did seem odd.

Can you just confirm that when opening a console, you can type "echo $BROWSER" and it returns /usr/bin/firefox
it looks like it could be coming from your .bashrc, so its possible that the edit bit didn't go 100%

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ok did thf grep thing the console went mad here is what it did

/usr/bin/firefox
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$ ps ef|grep boinc
6223 pts/1 S+ 0:00 \\_ grep boinc SSH_AGENT_PID=7494 KDE_MULTIHEAD=false DM_CONTROL=/var/run/xdmctl TERM=xterm SHELL=/bin/bash XDM_MANAGED=/var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0,maysd,mayfn,sched,rsvd,method=classic GTK2_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/home/david/.gtkrc-2.0:/home/david/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 GS_LIB=/home/david/.fonts GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/david/.gtkrc:/home/david/.kde/share/config/gtkrc WINDOWID=67108869 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true LC_ALL=en_AU USER=david LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.wav=01;35: LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib/dri SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-MiovaQ7438/agent.7438 SESSION_MANAGER=local/XANXLHNLM30:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7605 KONSOLE_DCOP=DCOPRef(konsole-5455,konsole) PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games DESKTOP_SESSION=default KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION=DCOPRef(konsole-5455,session-1) PWD=/home/david/BOINC LANG=en_AU HOME=/home/david SHLVL=3 LANGUAGE=en_US XCURSOR_THEME=default LOGNAME=david BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox DISPLAY=:0.0 COLORTERM= _=/bin/grep
david@XANXLHNLM30:~/BOINC$

Thought i had better refer to you before i went any further

Yes it is behind a firewall it is a Xandros proprieaty program so i dont know much about it assume its just a hips program

Hmmm i wondered about that "usr/bin/firefox" to i thoght it had to be there but it did seem odd.

Listening to Wagner namely The Ring Cycle wonderfully relaxing with a nice cup of tea,Twinings of course.

mate i dont know what all that palaver is about ,you need to be a laywer with nerves of steel to figure it out,so its over to you

ok, having run run_client, do the ps -ef|grep boinc again and you should see boinc running.
Now start boincmgr and do the ps -ef|grep boinc again and you should then also see boincmgr running.

Do you have a firewall running?

[edit]
why does your console always say /usr/bin/firefox??

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