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Message 529444 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 2:20:12 UTC

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Message 529454 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 2:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 529444.  
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Hey, he was killed a day before your birthday. You'll be able to tell your grandkids about that.

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Message 529468 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 3:52:46 UTC

As reported by MISFIT on 9 Mar 2007 1:22:59 UTC
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Captain America is killed!

March 8, 2007

Captain America has undertaken his last mission – at least for now.

The venerable superhero is killed in the issue of his namesake comic that hit stands yesterday, the New York Daily News reported. On the new edition's pages, a sniper shoots down the shield-wielding hero as he leaves a courthouse.

It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-wearing character, created in 1941. Over the years, some 210 million copies of Captain America comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in 75 countries.

But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment editor in chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible.

Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

“We really need him now,” said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

In the comic-book universe, death is not always final. But even if Captain America turns out to have met his end in print, he may not disappear entirely: Marvel is developing a Captain America movie.

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Message 529513 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 9:04:19 UTC - in response to Message 529468.  
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As reported by MISFIT on 9 Mar 2007 1:22:59 UTC
Credit where credit is due. Sorry, i shoulda read the thread first.

Captain America is killed!

March 8, 2007

Captain America has undertaken his last mission – at least for now.

The venerable superhero is killed in the issue of his namesake comic that hit stands yesterday, the New York Daily News reported. On the new edition's pages, a sniper shoots down the shield-wielding hero as he leaves a courthouse.

It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-wearing character, created in 1941. Over the years, some 210 million copies of Captain America comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in 75 countries.

But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment editor in chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible.

Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

“We really need him now,” said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

In the comic-book universe, death is not always final. But even if Captain America turns out to have met his end in print, he may not disappear entirely: Marvel is developing a Captain America movie.

Maybe we in Europe should have a Captain European Economic Union. You could draw him as a piffling bureaucratic squirt with brussel sprouts as his main weapon.

This is Captain Euro:




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Message 529596 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 13:56:25 UTC - in response to Message 529513.  

Maybe we in Europe should have a Captain European Economic Union. You could draw him as a piffling bureaucratic squirt with brussel sprouts as his main weapon.
This is Captain Euro:

Is Brussel Sprouts the name of his dog?
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Message 529606 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 14:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 529596.  

Maybe we in Europe should have a Captain European Economic Union. You could draw him as a piffling bureaucratic squirt with brussel sprouts as his main weapon.
This is Captain Euro:

Is Brussel Sprouts the name of his dog?

Yea, probably. They all live in Brussels, the european capital, and prabably sprout nonsense most of the time.

Personally, I quite like brussel sprouts with my Christmas dinner, but keep clear of them any other day.


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Message 529715 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 17:54:56 UTC

I'm just surprised that (once again) the comic book industry needs to kill an ICON (Spiderman has "died" in the past and did you know Thor is currently deceased?) to get the attention of the public.

I know that(more than likely) Cap will be resurrected and that his death was part of an allegory on "Individual rights and The Patriot Act", but it seems hollow to me.

I've always enjoyed loosing myself in the pictures and stories (I read big boy books too!) and was saddened that, when seemingly America needs him the most, he was cast aside.

If you haven't picked up a comic in years, you might be very surprised at the change in artwork and dialog. It has come a long way. Addressing many current and controversial issues.


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Message 529928 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 23:14:05 UTC

Am I really the only person (and a Canadian no less) to be bothered by this?

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Message 529932 - Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 23:21:43 UTC - in response to Message 529928.  

Am I really the only person (and a Canadian no less) to be bothered by this?

There there, big guy. Don't worry. Just like Superman, he will return to fight the forces of evil.
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Message 530345 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 14:29:58 UTC - in response to Message 529928.  


Am I really the only person (and a Canadian no less) to be bothered by this?


'THEY' 'avE NO RIGHT to Do this . . .

. . . let's all go to thE windows, opEn 'EM, and YELL @ thE TOP of Our Lungs - " wE'rE NOT GOIN' Ta TakE iT anyMorE . . .


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Message 530366 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 15:36:55 UTC
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Hi Guys,

I know that he will eventually return and that they DO have a right to do what they will with the character, but it is just a shock to a long time reader/fan. To tell the truth, I'm surprised some Americans aren't up in arms!

Capatain America has always stood for family values and Mom and apple pie! Where is the famous American Patriotism? I would expect apathy from Canadians, but from the US? There was more of an uproar when Coca Cola changed the formula!!
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Message 530399 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 16:32:36 UTC - in response to Message 530366.  

I know that he will eventually return and that they DO have a right to do what they will with the character, but it is just a shock to a long time reader/fan. To tell the truth, I'm surprised some Americans aren't up in arms!

Capatain America has always stood for family values and Mom and apple pie! Where is the famous American Patriotism? I would expect apathy from Canadians, but from the US? There was more of an uproar when Coca Cola changed the formula!!

It's a cartoon character.

Marge: Oh no! It's eating us!
Homer: Not a chance!
Bart: Wow, dad, how did you do that?
Homer: It's a flower...

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Message 530401 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 16:35:53 UTC - in response to Message 530399.  
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I know that he will eventually return and that they DO have a right to do what they will with the character, but it is just a shock to a long time reader/fan. To tell the truth, I'm surprised some Americans aren't up in arms!

Capatain America has always stood for family values and Mom and apple pie! Where is the famous American Patriotism? I would expect apathy from Canadians, but from the US? There was more of an uproar when Coca Cola changed the formula!!

It's a cartoon character.

Marge: Oh no! It's eating us!
Homer: Not a chance!
Bart: Wow, dad, how did you do that?
Homer: It's a flower...

It was a carbonated beverage.
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Message 530408 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 16:53:46 UTC - in response to Message 530401.  
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It's a cartoon character.

It was a carbonated beverage.

Tell me you aren't trying to compare a cartoon character that a few people like, to what is likely the most popular beverage on the planet? Let alone comparing the number of people who purchase the two.

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Message 530415 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 17:31:12 UTC - in response to Message 530408.  

It's a cartoon character.

It was a carbonated beverage.

Tell me you aren't trying to compare a cartoon character that a few people like, to what is likely the most popular beverage on the planet? Let alone comparing the number of people who purchase the two.

Let's have a look at google

Type in Captain America = Results 12,400,000 for Captain America. (0.05 seconds)

Type in Coca Cola = Results 25,600,000 for Coca Cola. (0.04 seconds)

HHHMmmmmmm.....they both seem pretty popular? And considering that Marvel Comics doesn't have the distribution power nor the advertising budget that Coca Cola does......oh and comics aren't loaded with addictive caffeine.......and they don't have celebrity shills....do I need to keep going?

Point being, it's pretty surprising. At least some of the press is aghast. I can appreciate that your not a fan, can you appreciate that I am?

Thanks for your comments regardless,
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Message 530456 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 20:16:29 UTC - in response to Message 530415.  
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Let's have a look at google

Type in Captain America = Results 12,400,000 for Captain America. (0.05 seconds)

Type in Coca Cola = Results 25,600,000 for Coca Cola. (0.04 seconds)

Jeebus. A) Any number of those Captain America hits are reprints of the same news story about him being killed off, over and over and over. Not to mention all the wheezy kids that are all up in arms, and commenting about it. You know, the type that has to use "graphic novel" to refer to a comic book? The numbers would have been quite different a month ago. B) Google results aren't a good measure of popularity, per se. Sales numbers, on the other hand, are. Something that Coke excels in and Captain America, well, they felt they had to kill him off because they needed to generate more interest.

HHHMmmmmmm.....they both seem pretty popular? And considering that Marvel Comics doesn't have the distribution power nor the advertising budget that Coca Cola does......oh and comics aren't loaded with addictive caffeine.......and they don't have celebrity shills....do I need to keep going?

If you think it's helping your position, by all means. Go right ahead.

But let's look at your numbers. When I searched "Captain America" in quotes, on Google just moments ago, I came up with 2.28 million. When I searched "Coke," I came up with 31 million. Those numbers aren't even close. Google still isn't representative in that way, but you can see the point.

Point being, it's pretty surprising. At least some of the press is aghast. I can appreciate that your not a fan, can you appreciate that I am?

Surprising to you maybe, but the press is just bleating a kewt human interest story.

I loved Captain America when I was a kid. Used to draw him (poorly), all of the time. But you didn't say "I am a fan and this is crap." You compared a relatively minor cartoon character to the most popular drink on earth, as if there were some valid comparison there. I'll stand with my original response to the lack of "uproar."

It's a cartoon character.
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Message 530657 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 2:32:36 UTC - in response to Message 530415.  

It's a cartoon character.

It was a carbonated beverage.

Tell me you aren't trying to compare a cartoon character that a few people like, to what is likely the most popular beverage on the planet? Let alone comparing the number of people who purchase the two.

Let's have a look at google

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Message 530682 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 3:45:18 UTC
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I loved Captain America when I was a kid. Used to draw him (poorly), all of the time.



Doesn't it bother you deep down inside somewhere? That the character you identified with as a child, has had it's Brilliant Shine dulled? May I ask you, what was it that you liked about Captain America?
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Message 531334 - Posted: 14 Mar 2007, 21:14:49 UTC - in response to Message 530682.  
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I loved Captain America when I was a kid. Used to draw him (poorly), all of the time.



Doesn't it bother you deep down inside somewhere? That the character you identified with as a child, has had it's Brilliant Shine dulled? May I ask you, what was it that you liked about Captain America?

First Captain America dies and now Mr. Rush seems to have lost his voice. I was looking forward to his response too. SIGH! I'm getting used to disappointment.
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Message 531377 - Posted: 14 Mar 2007, 22:55:50 UTC

Captain America died?
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