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Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
I found this post on the CPDN board: The person in question is Wate, his/her data are in the links in the quote. It recently came to the attention of boinc staff that a multi-project cruncher called Wate who occupied a very high position in the boinc and project stats had reached this exalted position by dishonest means. Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
I found this post on the CPDN board: Let me start of by saying this user, Wate, did a VERY BAD THING!!!! However that being said it is an interesting way to get more people to participate in Boinc. Kind of like AOL paying to have their icon on the desktop of every store bought computer sold over that past many years. Too bad Boinc doesn't have the money and clought to have the icon put on every pc sold in the World. Installing and auto running Boinc would not be a good thing, BUT having the icon on the desktop and then having it bring up a small document/pdf file which had a link in it to an account manager that made signing up super easy, would be a VERY GOOD THING! Especially if it were on EVERY desktop sold in the World. |
Boinc_Master_2 Send message Joined: 20 Aug 05 Posts: 131 Credit: 689,756 RAC: 0 |
Well there are a number of points here. Firstly this user is a 100% cheat and should be banned from BOINC permanently. If this story reaches the popular press, it will bring discredit upon distributed computing generally, and Boinc/Seti specifically. Secondly, what a shame that someone with all that techical expertise to have been able to have done that, didn't use it to legitimally to help out producing enhanced apps etc. As per your point about having a Boinc install icon on every PC sold, that would effectively mean, Microsoft agreeing to include it as part of Windows, which of course they would never do. Apart from that, if the Boinc userbase suddenly doubled or trebled, theres no way the the various projects servers/hardware could cope with the resulting traffic. However, there maybe some mileage in the principle of what you suggest. Supposing a computer manufacturer agreed to include a Boinc installation icon on each of their computers sold? That might not swamp Berkeley too much. Recently Dell announced that Michael Dell, the original founder of Dell, had been reinstalled as CEO of Dell, replacing Kevin Rollins. He is well known to be a computing entrepreneur, and has his own foundation which has already funded computer science at University of Texas. Perhaps Fuzzy or someone should write to him about Boinc, as a new broom in the chair, who knows???
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champ Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0 |
This is a very bad thing. If he/she has done that, he/she must banned permanently. Is there a statment by Wate? Please do not blame someone without his/her statment. |
Dark Angel Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0 |
Food for thought...Wate produces a trojan that installs BOINC on computers around the world...1500 plus systems...did Wate really think this wasn't going to be traceable...more so then that they also have at berkeley on the registration servers the email address for Wate...if it's even valid...they would also have his IP address so if someone was to file a legal complaint and law enforcement was smart enough to do some computer forensic work they could trace Wate and shut down one more virus writer. |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Well there are a number of points here. Thanks, Boinc Master 2, I'll discuss this with Pappa and Eric. :-) About the trojan, it was discovered last summer I think, and it caused a lot of turmoil here on this board. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
note: amongst this 'Wate' Comments in the Following Thread Computer has become slow . . . Message 1324 - Posted 30 Jun 2005 14:50:03 UTC Wate's Computer - My computer Links to Anonymous see Wate's - Results for computer strange EH ? |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
If you go to the BOINC site, you'll find a WATE as number 5 top user. Do they know all this or they just do not care? Tullio |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
As I understand it David has already spoken with Microsoft about getting BOINC included in Windows. That was a long time ago too. me@rescam.org |
champ Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0 |
As I understand it David has already spoken with Microsoft about getting BOINC included in Windows. That was a long time ago too. Its time for a recall, now!!!! |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
The admins at Predictor failed to act on the criminal hacker Wate. They went as far as to censor every discussion on the boards regarding tis topic, and banning crunchers for mentioning it or starting threads about it. It will be fine if you go over there and post some support for those who stand up against this condonement of criminal behaviour by the project admins. But beware: If you start posting there, you might be banned quicker as you can count to 10. I strongly suggest to stop crunching for Predictor as long as they refuse to act on behalf of Wate. Here are the two relevant threads (both closed by admins): the counterpart of this one (closed without reason given, follow-ups were deleted) about the censorship (original about 20 posts long) Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
Well there are a number of points here. The press? Already did at heise-security: Trojan forced PCs to take part in climate research project They have, the start of this thread, a written statement basically out in the public view for anyone to see and didn't bother to ask the details or what the cause of the incident was. I hate commercial media because the not only Hype up a story in a bad way by out right discrediting BOINC, they insert their Point OF View of the situation. Theat why I freelance at Wikinews...Neutral Point of View and report all the facts and get all the right facts. BUT the good news is this has been the only article I have been able to come across. Point is...it wasn't BOINCc it was a user and they didn't really mention that...if i had read this article before this post, i would have thought it to be BOINC's fault. "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
OK - I have created a support of the Ban on Predictor post in the Calm Chaos Team Recruitment Thread. The contents of that post are as follows: ========================================== OK - This really REALLY ticks me off!!! The Admins/Mods at Predictor are actively banning ANYONE who speaks out against Wate, (the hacker/criminal element that used a Trojan to blindly install BOINC on computers without the owners of the computers knowledge; nor consent), in any way shape or form. According to Saenger, this blatant heavy handedness occurred today. See the following: Members banned at Predictor. Trojan boinc installation by rogue member. I highly suggest that any Calm Chaos Teammates presently crunching for Predictor cease and desist crunching for that Project until they lift the ban on the 20+ Boinc Synergy crunchers, as well as others whom are presently banned for only utilizing the First Amendment, "Free Speech". Wate is the proven criminal and hacker, and Predictor and Staff need to zero out Wate's credits and ban him/her, not the innocent people lodging an honest complaint! ========================================== I'm sure that the other Team Members of Calm Chaos will join in supporting the Ban on Predictor@Home. Sincerely, TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Click here to vote for my Predictor profile! :-) Vote recommend and vote often! Join the Banned for Life team! me@rescam.org |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Well I got banned It looks like(Not enough credits now, So much for 3,308 of them), That admin there doesn't play too well with others, But the guys bound and determined to quell dissent, I hope not at any cost though. Anyone know Who His boss is? Of course If I wanted to be a pest, I could post again, If He's not blocking by ip that is. The more they streamline the plumbing, the easier it is to plug up the drain. I think Scotty said that in the Search for Spock movie or somethng to that effect. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
Well I got banned It looks like(Not enough credits now, So much for 3,308 of them), That admin there doesn't play too well with others, But the guys bound and determined to quell dissent, I hope not at any cost though. Anyone know Who His boss is? Of course If I wanted to be a pest, I could post again, If He's not blocking by ip that is. The more they streamline the plumbing, the easier it is to plug up the drain. I think Scotty said that in the Search for Spock movie or somethng to that effect. "Aye sir, the more they overtech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty Quotes |
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