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Message 517442 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 517437.  


'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)


No I do not delete those, I actually don't print anything at work that anyone else would want. Who would want a copy of an email telling me which cubicle a broken printer/pc/monitor/program is in? I do use lots of little sticky pads though, just so I do not have to print that much. I will jot down the cube number and go see the person, then throw the note away. I went thru almost a dozen stickys on Monday alone!


my reference was to 'when you Print out your *List* - that *List* remains in the TEMP Files on the System . . .


I had forgotten about those, thanks!!!


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Message 517439 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 517434.  



'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)

> @ David - can u call? cell or skype? Your Skype Voicemail's that you leave with me - have no Content - safe you sayin' David ;)


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Message 517437 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 517435.  


'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)


No I do not delete those, I actually don't print anything at work that anyone else would want. Who would want a copy of an email telling me which cubicle a broken printer/pc/monitor/program is in? I do use lots of little sticky pads though, just so I do not have to print that much. I will jot down the cube number and go see the person, then throw the note away. I went thru almost a dozen stickys on Monday alone!


my reference was to 'when you Print out your *List* - that *List* remains in the TEMP Files on the System . . .


I had forgotten about those, thanks!!!
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Message 517435 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 517432.  


'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)


No I do not delete those, I actually don't print anything at work that anyone else would want. Who would want a copy of an email telling me which cubicle a broken printer/pc/monitor/program is in? I do use lots of little sticky pads though, just so I do not have to print that much. I will jot down the cube number and go see the person, then throw the note away. I went thru almost a dozen stickys on Monday alone!


my reference was to 'when you Print out your *List* - that *List* remains in the TEMP Files on the System . . .



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Message 517434 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 517433.  
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'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)

> @ David - can u call? cell or skype? Your Skype Voicemail's that you leave with me - have no Content - safe you sayin' David ;)


Anyone remember how they cracked the Imperial Japanese Naval war codes? :)


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Message 517433 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 517418.  



'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)

> @ David - can u call? cell or skype? Your Skype Voicemail's that you leave with me - have no Content - safe you sayin' David ;)


Anyone remember how they cracked the Imperial Japanese Naval war codes? :)


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Message 517432 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 17:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 517381.  


'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)


No I do not delete those, I actually don't print anything at work that anyone else would want. Who would want a copy of an email telling me which cubicle a broken printer/pc/monitor/program is in? I do use lots of little sticky pads though, just so I do not have to print that much. I will jot down the cube number and go see the person, then throw the note away. I went thru almost a dozen stickys on Monday alone!
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Message 517418 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 16:25:36 UTC - in response to Message 517381.  
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'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)

> @ David - can u call? cell or skype? Your Skype Voicemail's that you leave with me - have no Content - safe you sayin' David ;)


Anyone remember how they cracked the Imperial Japanese Naval war codes? :)
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Message 517381 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 14:18:02 UTC - in response to Message 517374.  
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I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.

And ... therefore by extension ... so do I !

Yes that is true, I will even give you the name of the file, it is called "names.txt". But since you must be on our local network you still must be physically in front of one of our pc's to use it. Yes some people have remote access to the network but that drive is not accessible over the network that way. Which has caused considerable pain for some users. They saved their work, then tried to access it from home and could not get to it. They have learned to save it on a remote network accessible drive. The "token" has a unique id and a password that changes every 60 seconds. The "token" is assigned to a user and when they log-in they have 60 seconds to try and log-in or they must use the next password the "token" auto generates. It is a REAL pain for 1st time users.
The drive is not shared, it is a drive I have access to but no one else. Each person has there own section on one huge drive. Even the IT people cannot access my section without my password.

I understand what you are saying.
It has been some time now that I stopped having a single password for all my needs - but never have I committed those passwords to a computer file - regardless of ANY consideration. I have a little list of them written down - but accessible only to me. It is funny, though ... I have never had to refer to the list ... because I remember them all.
I am certain that if I dispensed with the list ... I would immediately forget the lot!!!
Murphy's law in motion!!!


Oh of course! Lose that list and you are toast!!! I have a list too, I just print my file out whenever I make enough changes that it looks bad and carry it in the same case as my badge. If I lost that, then my password would have to change RIGHT NOW!!!! I am a mid level person at work, enough responsibility to get into trouble, but not enough that losing my list would cause any real troubles. Mostly door access codes, that everyone that needs to know already knows, and passwords that I use for my files. Oh and my online payroll password, if that got out I might actually get more money! Someone might use that instead of their own!


'ello mikey / David . . . hope ur dey is well

> Q. do you also delete your *Temp* files AFTER Printing - carEful ;)

> @ David - can u call? cell or skype? Your Skype Voicemail's that you leave with me - have no Content - safe you sayin' David ;)

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Message 517374 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 14:04:40 UTC - in response to Message 517350.  

I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.

And ... therefore by extension ... so do I !

Yes that is true, I will even give you the name of the file, it is called "names.txt". But since you must be on our local network you still must be physically in front of one of our pc's to use it. Yes some people have remote access to the network but that drive is not accessible over the network that way. Which has caused considerable pain for some users. They saved their work, then tried to access it from home and could not get to it. They have learned to save it on a remote network accessible drive. The "token" has a unique id and a password that changes every 60 seconds. The "token" is assigned to a user and when they log-in they have 60 seconds to try and log-in or they must use the next password the "token" auto generates. It is a REAL pain for 1st time users.
The drive is not shared, it is a drive I have access to but no one else. Each person has there own section on one huge drive. Even the IT people cannot access my section without my password.

I understand what you are saying.
It has been some time now that I stopped having a single password for all my needs - but never have I committed those passwords to a computer file - regardless of ANY consideration. I have a little list of them written down - but accessible only to me. It is funny, though ... I have never had to refer to the list ... because I remember them all.
I am certain that if I dispensed with the list ... I would immediately forget the lot!!!
Murphy's law in motion!!!


Oh of course! Lose that list and you are toast!!! I have a list too, I just print my file out whenever I make enough changes that it looks bad and carry it in the same case as my badge. If I lost that, then my password would have to change RIGHT NOW!!!! I am a mid level person at work, enough responsibility to get into trouble, but not enough that losing my list would cause any real troubles. Mostly door access codes, that everyone that needs to know already knows, and passwords that I use for my files. Oh and my online payroll password, if that got out I might actually get more money! Someone might use that instead of their own!
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Message 517350 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 12:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 517346.  

I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.

And ... therefore by extension ... so do I !

Yes that is true, I will even give you the name of the file, it is called "names.txt". But since you must be on our local network you still must be physically in front of one of our pc's to use it. Yes some people have remote access to the network but that drive is not accessible over the network that way. Which has caused considerable pain for some users. They saved their work, then tried to access it from home and could not get to it. They have learned to save it on a remote network accessible drive. The "token" has a unique id and a password that changes every 60 seconds. The "token" is assigned to a user and when they log-in they have 60 seconds to try and log-in or they must use the next password the "token" auto generates. It is a REAL pain for 1st time users.
The drive is not shared, it is a drive I have access to but no one else. Each person has there own section on one huge drive. Even the IT people cannot access my section without my password.

I understand what you are saying.
It has been some time now that I stopped having a single password for all my needs - but never have I committed those passwords to a computer file - regardless of ANY consideration. I have a little list of them written down - but accessible only to me. It is funny, though ... I have never had to refer to the list ... because I remember them all.
I am certain that if I dispensed with the list ... I would immediately forget the lot!!!
Murphy's law in motion!!!
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Message 517346 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 12:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 517345.  

I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.

And ... therefore by extension ... so do I !

Yes that is true, I will even give you the name of the file, it is called "names.txt". But since you must be on our local network you still must be physically in front of one of our pc's to use it. Yes some people have remote access to the network but that drive is not accessible over the network that way. Which has caused considerable pain for some users. They saved their work, then tried to access it from home and could not get to it. They have learned to save it on a remote network accessible drive. The "token" has a unique id and a password that changes every 60 seconds. The "token" is assigned to a user and when they log-in they have 60 seconds to try and log-in or they must use the next password the "token" auto generates. It is a REAL pain for 1st time users.
The drive is not shared, it is a drive I have access to but no one else. Each person has there own section on one huge drive. Even the IT people cannot access my section without my password.
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Message 517345 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 12:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 517339.  

I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.

And ... therefore by extension ... so do I !
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Message 517339 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 12:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 517311.  

I don't think people realize how easy a hacker could 'guess' their passwords. Are you Keeping secrets from web spies?
I know someone whose password is his wife's name. Others use their pet's name or month of their birthday. Find out the name of someone's partner, favorite color, birthday or children's or pets name and you're probably almost into all of their accounts.
I have two passwords which I use for my most secure accounts, both totally gobbeldy gook and absolutely meaningless and unguessable. It took me a while to remember them, but amazingly, like a telephone number, you do.
Anyone else think that they have a 'safe' password?


Keys - (I read this somewhere):
1.) Do NOT make your password the last 4 digits of your SSN #
2.) Do NOT use Family Names
3.) Do NOT use Pets' Names
4.) Do NOT use words that appear in a dictionary or thesaurus
5.) Use Capitalization and Numbers in your password
6.) NEVER, EVER give your password to anyone
When I read this blurb of rules above, the "Minimum" number of password characters allowed was 4. Now, for better security, many places are requiring at least 6 characters "Minimum"; and, some places are allowing "Pass Phrases" in place of Passwords. A pass phrase utilizing the rules above and including spaces and punctuation is even more secure.
My Router utilizes Pass Phrase protection. My other Password(s) utilize the rules above.
Good Luck to Everyone,


I have a buddy that worked for the US Government in networking, they required a passphrase, he was talking one nite and said that it was so secure no one would be able to ever guess it. His wife said is it "xxx xxxx xxx xx", he turned quite pale and said he had to excuse himself from the table. He went and changed it right then and there! Apparently it was something he had said to her way back when and she remembered it.
The x's do not represent the true length of the password. It was a whole sentence and was quite complicated. He was fairly high up on the network ladder.
BTW, mine at work is a fairly simple one, 5 letters with some capitilization and then some numbers. I have 2 and they are similar in style. User name was assigned by them. The password is a minimum of 6 digits and must include 3 of the following...upper case letters, lower case letters, numerical digits and punctuation marks. It also must be changed every 45 days and cannot be one you have used within the last 10 times. People write them down all the time. We all have network drives that are accessable no matter what computer you log into and that is where I keep my file with all my passwords and door codes etc. There is no way I can remember all of those in my head! I just need to remember the Network password and then I have access to all the rest.
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Message 517311 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 6:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 516174.  

I don't think people realize how easy a hacker could 'guess' their passwords. Are you Keeping secrets from web spies?

I know someone whose password is his wife's name. Others use their pet's name or month of their birthday. Find out the name of someone's partner, favorite color, birthday or children's or pets name and you're probably almost into all of their accounts.

I have two passwords which I use for my most secure accounts, both totally gobbeldy gook and absolutely meaningless and unguessable. It took me a while to remember them, but amazingly, like a telephone number, you do.

Anyone else think that they have a 'safe' password?



Keys - (I read this somewhere):

1.) Do NOT make your password the last 4 digits of your SSN #

2.) Do NOT use Family Names

3.) Do NOT use Pets' Names

4.) Do NOT use words that appear in a dictionary or thesaurus

5.) Use Capitalization and Numbers in your password

6.) NEVER, EVER give your password to anyone


When I read this blurb of rules above, the "Minimum" number of password characters allowed was 4. Now, for better security, many places are requiring at least 6 characters "Minimum"; and, some places are allowing "Pass Phrases" in place of Passwords. A pass phrase utilizing the rules above and including spaces and punctuation is even more secure.

My Router utilizes Pass Phrase protection. My other Password(s) utilize the rules above.


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Message 516833 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 23:10:35 UTC - in response to Message 516693.  

Mine's in Estonian, and I aint Estonian ... !
But I can remember the p/w - just



i resemble that remark . . . ;) 'ello David

Hello my friend ...
How are you?
I am bored stupid .... Elina just left for Võru yesterday ... and I aint going there whilst the temperatures are around -25 C.
Today was a mild -11 C.
This place is empty now ... and I hate empty places ...


Be even emptier shortly, your RAC is about to disappear, and with it your posts!
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Message 516697 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 17:13:47 UTC - in response to Message 516694.  
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Mine's in Estonian, and I aint Estonian ... !
But I can remember the p/w - just



i resemble that remark . . . ;) 'ello David

Hello my friend ...
How are you?
I am bored stupid .... Elina just left for Võru yesterday ... and I aint going there whilst the temperatures are around -25 C.
Today was a mild -11 C.
This place is empty now ... and I hate empty places ...


YO - call cell or skype?

I'll try skype ... but it has been so long, I might have forgotten ...
(Elina found my skype headset and asked what it was ... and I had forgotten !!!)
I'll try in a few minutes ...
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Message 516695 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 17:10:59 UTC - in response to Message 516685.  

Mine's in Estonian, and I aint Estonian ... !
But I can remember the p/w - just


...does that require an Estonian keyboard, too?
"Very interesting" as Marty Feldman would say...

Jes it needs an Estonian keyboard ...
I need it to speak to Elina sometimes ... when she gets snarky ...
(not often ... !!!)
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Message 516694 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 17:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 516693.  

Mine's in Estonian, and I aint Estonian ... !
But I can remember the p/w - just



i resemble that remark . . . ;) 'ello David

Hello my friend ...
How are you?
I am bored stupid .... Elina just left for Võru yesterday ... and I aint going there whilst the temperatures are around -25 C.
Today was a mild -11 C.
This place is empty now ... and I hate empty places ...


YO - call cell or skype?
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Message 516693 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 17:08:48 UTC - in response to Message 516681.  

Mine's in Estonian, and I aint Estonian ... !
But I can remember the p/w - just



i resemble that remark . . . ;) 'ello David

Hello my friend ...
How are you?
I am bored stupid .... Elina just left for Võru yesterday ... and I aint going there whilst the temperatures are around -25 C.
Today was a mild -11 C.
This place is empty now ... and I hate empty places ...
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