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Message 517198 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 1:42:09 UTC - in response to Message 517138.  
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trlauer et al (this means everyone)

I do have some information but have been waiting to insure other things happened/arrived. I know that Eric has two fiberchannel cards that I sent.
I know that I can not afford to go buy what is needed as a immediate replacement and try to help everyone understand there is a difference between Server Hardware and Workstation hardware... We have a couple of Administartors that have came up with some parts that should be on there way... So I do not have a full list to post at this time but try to handle small things as we can... The Server Board is there and needs to Intel socket 603 CPUS which 2.8Ghz is the max for that board and RAM... I will post more details in the Staff Blog. I have already posted an example of what Eric and Matt would like as a Server to replace kryten and allow for growth... I also need to contact Simon to see if he can add a for computer parts check box...

So as the Tech News Blog showed everyone was busy babysitting the system...

So once again, if you have things to offer please take time to email me. If you have something that is really important that gets to Eric I can do a conference call to insure he gets the word.

Thank You everyone that has offered something, yes it is hard to filter so that we get the correct things to Eric and Matt...

al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com replace the (at) with the @ symbol

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If anyone else can add to the assistance provided by me and offered by Dr. Dan, please feel free to step up to the plate when available to do so. By working together, we can keep the SETI Project going and assist Eric, Matt, et. al. in making their jobs a little less stressful.

In agreement with Dogbytes; let's stop bickering and bantering about semantics pertaining to Server names. Let Berkeley, Eric, Matt, et. al. deal with the naming scheme. Let's just get the needed and necessary hardware to them to keep this project moving forward. Thanks, everyone.


Perhaps Pappa can post whole servers as an option for a chruncher to buy as well as post a list per server that is needed that can be built (white box) with various chrunchers buying certain parts that they can afford and/or want to buy to get the server built. I suggest Pappa handle this and create a thread and also have it posted on the Donations page. Then, if a chruncher wants to buy a part or several parts, they can send an e-mail to Pappa who would can keep a master list of what parts are still needed, and let the chruncher know if that part is still needed or not. Of course, the Donations page and the threat would be updated as parts are bought for the new server. The e-mail to Pappa to verify a part is still needed is to make sure that someone doesn't purchase a part that perhaps someone else just moments earlier had committed to buy (which obviously means the thread/donations page hadn't been updated yet.).

Just my thoughts.


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Message 517209 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 2:04:57 UTC

@Trlauer and all: I would recommend contacting Eric directly. Again Poppa is not on staff and not at Berkeley. This will allow information to flow more directly.

Poppa-again I have received emails concerning why you insist on being the middleman on every hardware donation. Why they come to me? I have no idea. Please--you said you would back out of hardware donation discussions.

Just a request--people can email Eric directly and cut the time in these discussions---that will only benefit Seti.


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Message 517225 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 3:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 517209.  

@Trlauer and all: I would recommend contacting Eric directly. Again Poppa is not on staff and not at Berkeley. This will allow information to flow more directly.

Poppa-again I have received emails concerning why you insist on being the middleman on every hardware donation. Why they come to me? I have no idea. Please--you said you would back out of hardware donation discussions.

Just a request--people can email Eric directly and cut the time in these discussions---that will only benefit Seti.


I don't have a problem going through Pappa for anything. It's obvious that Eric doesn't mind it or else he would have made the request directly in the posts. However, for those that aren't comfortable going through Pappa, I'm sure Eric will take direct e-mails.

From a business standpoint, I can understand funneling all the requests through one person so as not to inundate Eric with different e-mails from too many people. As I understand it, Eric's time is spread extremely thin and it must be helpful to have everything funneling through one person.

From what I can tell, Pappa is just trying to be helpful, and I appreciate that. I wish I had a free "assistant" working/volunteering for me. :)

Thank you for the suggestion though. I will definately keep it as an option.
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Message 517252 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 4:26:35 UTC - in response to Message 517129.  

Well done TL, we are all very grateful to you.

Wow, a tour of the SSL as well, gee, I wish I had been there with you!!!

Maybe this could be a new fundraiser:

Bring a (usable) server, get a tour!
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Message 517255 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 4:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 517252.  

Well done TL, we are all very grateful to you.

Wow, a tour of the SSL as well, gee, I wish I had been there with you!!!

Maybe this could be a new fundraiser:

Bring a (usable) server, get a tour!

Wonderful idea...however, food, accomodation, and travel expenses provided by the user. Just kidding but alas true, but I think the tour part is really a good idea...Berkeley?
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Message 517386 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 14:29:20 UTC

I am wondering if some type of server hardware "gift registry" could be set up somehow. Like when someone is getting married or having a baby they register the exact items (model, part number, quantity) wanted and once it is purchased it is removed from the list. This would allow people to donate hardware that has been preselected by Matt and team that meets the needs of the project.

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Message 517504 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 20:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 517255.  

Well done TL, we are all very grateful to you.

Wow, a tour of the SSL as well, gee, I wish I had been there with you!!!

Maybe this could be a new fundraiser:

Bring a (usable) server, get a tour!

Wonderful idea...however, food, accomodation, and travel expenses provided by the user. Just kidding but alas true, but I think the tour part is really a good idea...Berkeley?

Absolutely -- only the "tour" part is free.

... that and cool new hardware.
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Message 517624 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 1:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 517030.  
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One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

Eric


I have this memory in stock and ready to ship, I sent Matt an email about it, I just need a shipping address and it is yours.



Done, Paid for and shipped. Brand new, in the box. Should arrive at Berkeley within the next couple of days.
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Message 517653 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 3:07:44 UTC - in response to Message 517209.  
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I wish it were that simple... I just posted information from Eric's email to me last night as things arrived and more things are needed.. Seti Staff Blog Donate Hardware II So after a brief phone conversation with Eric and pointed to a couple of things that could be considered problems daily quotas, pending credit, and validation issues... He probably spent a long night looking... Knowing that he has more projects that he works on... I like to feel that the trust that has developed between Eric and myself has been earned and allows someone to watch a coordinate a bit... Or free him from some things as there are not enough people to watch.

I see that Kevin got the information he needed about the shipping address and glad to hear that is on it way...

I also see that potentially some have backed off Seti because of the hardware problems... Potentially it could be also that many are vocal about their individual feelings about is happening... I Live in the camp that sez Seti Can Survive, if the users get the right information and have fewer problems then it is doable. I run 5 BOINC Projects of my choosing... I am about to stop (for a time) doing Einstien due to computer problems... I have backup projects running to fill many gaps... I know that BOINC 5.8.11 fixes some issues that have probably caused a loss of users to Many Projects... I also know that it does not fix everything... But I keep watching and upgrading... Somewhere in all this I have over a million computer hours of Trust in BOINC and Seti... I have a lot of other hours helping Users and Seti Beta and Donations...

So if You think You can, Then Please Walk a Mile in My Shoes!

@Trlauer and all: I would recommend contacting Eric directly. Again Poppa is not on staff and not at Berkeley. This will allow information to flow more directly.

Poppa-again I have received emails concerning why you insist on being the middleman on every hardware donation. Why they come to me? I have no idea. Please--you said you would back out of hardware donation discussions.

Anyone is welcome to email Eric I will give you his Email address korpela (at) ssl.berkeley.edu please replace the (at) with the @ symbol. I will also say that first thing that you will be faced with is a challenge to get through the SPAM Filter which you have to respond to... Then You will have to wait while he sorts through hundreds of emails daily... As I saw a thread that someone dug out of the past had at a time worked to get Crunch3r through to Eric... Seti Anti Strike why someone found and brought this back to life I have no idea... IF you Look, read the whole thread, it is long! I also know that many people have Matt's email address, and when it is stated I will email Matt you have to wait depending on what crisus he is currently working on...

So that all said, I am just a person. I do not get paid by Seti but I am concerned that information gets shared and can get information... I can dial a phone number and get a live person... I am partly reason that the blog and the tech news exists... This was because I according to some wasted my time on my part was attempting to find out things that could make communications easier between the Users and the Seti Staff...

So how I got stuck in the middle, it was because I care and have the time to work the problems... Hardware is a problem, Money for survival is a problem. If anyone thinks that they might be able to make things work faster You are Welcome to email me and I will introduce you to Eric. Then I can take a vacation.


Just a request--people can email Eric directly and cut the time in these discussions---that will only benefit Seti.


I am tired, and I also know that Eric Matt and Crew are tired... Form you own opinions... Oops that is new thread that Misfit could start...

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Message 517659 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 3:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 517624.  


Done, Paid for and shipped. Brand new, in the box. Should arrive at Berkeley within the next couple of days.


Kevin,

THANK YOU for making that generous donation! As a fellow cruncher, I appreciate your donation.

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Message 517812 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 14:48:20 UTC

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I appreciate what you are doing! It´s good to free Eric or Matt from some things - they got enought work to do and problems on their mind!

Keep up the good work!
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Message 518063 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 3:16:10 UTC

Pappa,

I want you to know it does not go un-noticed the hard work with being the middle man. Between you and Fuzzy with the donation threads, and being big activists with the survival of this project, I personally want to thank you both for doing it. No one else stepped up to do it, you both did it on your own free will, and I whole heartedly believe that if you 2 had not ask for and kept us all updated with the situations, many would not understand the problems behind the scenes. The trust that you have built with Eric is awesome, and I hope you continue to do as you do. As a side note, I hope your wife is doing well also, and I keep you both in my thoughts.

Everyone involved, keep up the awesome work, to those that have donated, anything, thank you for believing in this project. Lets all just help keep SETI alive, put personal feelings asside and focus on the problems that face this project.

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Message 518172 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 13:22:48 UTC

@KB7RZF - I concur.

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I second KB7RZF's comments, thank you.


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Message 518307 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 20:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 518172.  
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@KB7RZF - I concur.

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I second KB7RZF's comments, thank you.



If Eric and Matt have no problem with Pappa being a middleman then who are these other people to bitch and whine and moan about it?

You don't have to go trough him and finding contact info for Matt and Eric isn't that hard (its easy actualy, I could give you their home address and even the color of underwear they are wearing this week if you give me some time :p)

I would love to be in a possition where I could donate hardware and money to Seti, but I can't, I'm already tight on cash and most of my own hardware is outdated way beyond the level I would like.

All I can give is computer cycles and expertise on building cheap but quality whitelabel servers for the project.

Pappa: As a reply to the other thread, I'll write up an email with the ideal parts for a quality whitelabel server with prices and links. I'll actualy make 2, 1 for S940 and one for S1207(the new server socket from AMD).

It should be possible to start out with about 6k$ to build a production ready box that outclasses Kryten by far.


Btw, I'm also trying to get the guys over at AboveTopSecret.com to play a role in giving Seti publicity and helping out in the donation run.
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Message 518376 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 22:25:29 UTC
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Thank you all for the kind words. :-)

And thank you all for your donations, both money and hardware, they all fall on a very dry spot. If you only knew how
close this project is about to close down, and not only this project but the Beta/Astropulse project as well,
and all efforts are lost with this and the people in the staff will have to go and find other things to do.
Some of them will be fired! Sometimes trying to let this fact go through to people felt like crying "The ship is sinking!"
when people are dancing to the danceband on Titanic. Yes, even this mothership can sink! This time the iceberg is money,
not only money for investments for the project but current expenses! The networking is expensive!

This project, this mothership, is too important to let down. Thank you to all who care.




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Message 518760 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 15:28:49 UTC - in response to Message 517209.  
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@Trlauer and all: I would recommend contacting Eric directly. Again Poppa is not on staff and not at Berkeley. This will allow information to flow more directly.

Poppa-again I have received emails concerning why you insist on being the middleman on every hardware donation. Why they come to me? I have no idea. Please--you said you would back out of hardware donation discussions.

Just a request--people can email Eric directly and cut the time in these discussions---that will only benefit Seti.


I don't think Eric has the time to deal with this, I guess he has endorsed Pappa to be the middleman
because of his lack of time, to coordinate the hardware donations.

So, if you don't want to use Pappa as the middleman, then mail Matt, he also knows what they need,
and he can tell people if he can use those hardware parts, bits, and pieces people can offer. And
he can be the contact for these people.

I think I read somewhere that you have Matt's mail address? If you don't then send me a mail at
fuzzy dot hollynoodles at gmail dot moc, and I'll send those I have to you.

I'm staying out of the hardware donations, as I'm a hardware illiterate, the joke "Q: How many programmers
does it take to change a lightbulb? A: None, it's a hardware problem!" goes very well on me. ;-D


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Message 518780 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 16:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 518760.  

I like the following one better

"How many hardware guys does it take to fix a programmers computer?"
"None, its a buggy programming problem"

:p

I can yank out a raid card from a production server while its running without making it crash, but I'm still to figure out how to make either Linux or Windows stop crashing for no good reason while doing everyday tasks :p
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Message 518781 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 16:18:40 UTC - in response to Message 517624.  

One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

Eric


I have this memory in stock and ready to ship, I sent Matt an email about it, I just need a shipping address and it is yours.



Done, Paid for and shipped. Brand new, in the box. Should arrive at Berkeley within the next couple of days.




Just checking to see if this has been delivered ?????
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Message 518912 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 22:02:12 UTC - in response to Message 518781.  
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Kevin

I forgot to ask while I had Eric on the phone, however if I look at Matt's Blog Foam (Feb 15 2007) One of the Items mentioned was surgery on ewen to install the newly Donated RAM.

Thank You for the Help and Support

Just checking to see if this has been delivered ?????


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