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Message 514978 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 16:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 514780.  



Sorry Pappa, but this is not for you. I will not email you. That post was not to you, nor in response to you.
Matt knows how to contact me. And I have his email address as well, Nothing personal, but I don't need a middle man.



You might want to contact Matt directly since he probably hasn't had time to keep up with the thread since yesterday.

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Message 514981 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 17:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 514957.  



Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I'm working on the list. The problem is tracking down what each machine needs. One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

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Message 514992 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 17:40:12 UTC

I am sort of surprised that 220v is not being used already since it cuts the current requirements in half and you can run more equipment over the same size wire.
It would be very simple to convert an existing 110 run to 220v as long as the line is isolated. (They might want to run a completely new run if they are not sure or can not trace it down.) If they ran a new run with 3 + ground wire a small panel could be used to supply both 220 and 110 off the same line if necessary. In the long run this would be more flexible.
At least something to think about.
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Message 515010 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 19:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 514776.  

Blurf and Kevin et al...

You may notice that I have backed out of the conversation... When I saw what was happening and then got caught up in it it was sad... Normally I am fairly quiet and unassuming about most things...

So to that extent, if I have offended Anyone I extend an Appology...

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Pappa--

I am sorry to say this and I am not trying to rip on you, but we (myself and some others who have not posted here--from different teams not only SETI USA) are extremely put-off by some of your recent comments and would like a way to email Eric directly. For some reason they're emailing me.

While we appreciate your willingness to help your recent comments have made this issue more convoluted. With financial (ie cash) donations, you and Fuzzynoodle are terrific and I don't doubt your sincere wish to help SETI....but to expedite the process of donating hardware some of us would prefer to engage in discussions directly with Eric only (or whoever else he designates in the office).

Eric-if this is not possible please post here so we're all on the same track.

Thanks...


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Message 515013 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 19:42:44 UTC - in response to Message 514992.  

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You may have hit on something... most larger electrical panels bring 220 and split the phase... So in some circumtsances it might be adding a 220 breaker if there is enough room/current capacity.


I am sort of surprised that 220v is not being used already since it cuts the current requirements in half and you can run more equipment over the same size wire.
It would be very simple to convert an existing 110 run to 220v as long as the line is isolated. (They might want to run a completely new run if they are not sure or can not trace it down.) If they ran a new run with 3 + ground wire a small panel could be used to supply both 220 and 110 off the same line if necessary. In the long run this would be more flexible.
At least something to think about.
:)








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Message 515018 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 19:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 515013.  

Don't forget, you need two grounds. One ground for power and one for safety. I can see where they could need to pull wire and put in more air conditioning. After than they need more room. The problems of a shoe string budget.
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You may have hit on something... most larger electrical panels bring 220 and split the phase... So in some circumtsances it might be adding a 220 breaker if there is enough room/current capacity.


I am sort of surprised that 220v is not being used already since it cuts the current requirements in half and you can run more equipment over the same size wire.
It would be very simple to convert an existing 110 run to 220v as long as the line is isolated. (They might want to run a completely new run if they are not sure or can not trace it down.) If they ran a new run with 3 + ground wire a small panel could be used to supply both 220 and 110 off the same line if necessary. In the long run this would be more flexible.
At least something to think about.
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Message 515033 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 20:47:51 UTC - in response to Message 514981.  

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Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I'm working on the list. The problem is tracking down what each machine needs. One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

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Message 515044 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 21:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 514837.  

I mean, if our team got together and donated some drives for the server, does that mean that we could demand that it be named SetiUSA/Calm Chaos?

I'll throw a few pennies their way and combine the name to Calm Synergy.USA


can my team toss in a couple of drives and then we can call it NavalCalmSynergyUSA




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Message 515048 - Posted: 8 Feb 2007, 22:05:50 UTC - in response to Message 514981.  
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Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I'm working on the list. The problem is tracking down what each machine needs. One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

Eric


Eric

I can have this to you within the next 36 hours - only question - what type of machine is this going on - Mobo ? My vendor is asking.
Do you have a preferred name brand ?


And I did send Matt an email, but have not heard back from him yet. Thank you!
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Message 515099 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 0:09:21 UTC - in response to Message 514923.  

@TimeLord04: Thanks for offering a server as well.



@ Reuben Gathright,

You're welcome.


@ Eric, Matt, and Pappa,


OK - I've confirmed with my contact that this is now locked in and written in stone...

I am coming up on Saturday, the 10Th. On the 11Th I will be allowed into the building in Fremont where the Servers are, I will inspect them and get detailed specifications. Then, if they are logged in as Administrator, (please let this be the case), I will change the Admin Password and also create a User Account Profile in my name on each Server. This will allow me to safely shut down each machine and still get into them later if need be/if necessary. Then I will shut down all three machines, pack them up for travel with the APC Rack Mount Backup Battery and take off for my Parents' place.

Monday the 12Th, I will contact Eric, (I left a phone message for him today), and arrange a meeting time to drop off the Backup Battery and the Server of his/Matt's choice for Monday. The whole day will be left open just for this... So, morning or afternoon, or whatever; doesn't matter to me. From Danville to UCB should take about half an hour maybe 45 minutes with traffic.

I'm looking forward to getting all of this finalized with Eric and Matt. If either of you have questions, call me today at home. Eric and Pappa have my number and e-Mail Address; so, Matt can get the information from them.


Sincerely,



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Message 515120 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 1:18:30 UTC - in response to Message 515048.  

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Sorry for being the intermediary again, I have sent to Eric to come look... I had hoped that you would have contacted me... I could have provided a better contact point for you...

Regards



Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I'm working on the list. The problem is tracking down what each machine needs. One thing we could use fairly quickly for an existing machine is four 2GB PC3200 (DDR400MHz) Registered ECC DIMMS. I'm checking out memory needs for the other machines. Sidious needs a new CPU. I'll get the details on that shortly.

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Eric

I can have this to you within the next 36 hours - only question - what type of machine is this going on - Mobo ? My vendor is asking.
Do you have a preferred name brand ?


And I did send Matt an email, but have not heard back from him yet. Thank you!


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Message 515122 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 1:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 515099.  

TimeLord04

Thank You, I will make sure tha Eric sees this...

Regards

@TimeLord04: Thanks for offering a server as well.



@ Reuben Gathright,

You're welcome.


@ Eric, Matt, and Pappa,


OK - I've confirmed with my contact that this is now locked in and written in stone...

I am coming up on Saturday, the 10Th. On the 11Th I will be allowed into the building in Fremont where the Servers are, I will inspect them and get detailed specifications. Then, if they are logged in as Administrator, (please let this be the case), I will change the Admin Password and also create a User Account Profile in my name on each Server. This will allow me to safely shut down each machine and still get into them later if need be/if necessary. Then I will shut down all three machines, pack them up for travel with the APC Rack Mount Backup Battery and take off for my Parents' place.

Monday the 12Th, I will contact Eric, (I left a phone message for him today), and arrange a meeting time to drop off the Backup Battery and the Server of his/Matt's choice for Monday. The whole day will be left open just for this... So, morning or afternoon, or whatever; doesn't matter to me. From Danville to UCB should take about half an hour maybe 45 minutes with traffic.

I'm looking forward to getting all of this finalized with Eric and Matt. If either of you have questions, call me today at home. Eric and Pappa have my number and e-Mail Address; so, Matt can get the information from them.


Sincerely,




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Message 515123 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 1:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 515122.  

TimeLord04

Thank You, I will make sure tha Eric sees this...

Regards

@TimeLord04: Thanks for offering a server as well.



@ Reuben Gathright,

You're welcome.


@ Eric, Matt, and Pappa,


OK - I've confirmed with my contact that this is now locked in and written in stone...

I am coming up on Saturday, the 10Th. On the 11Th I will be allowed into the building in Fremont where the Servers are, I will inspect them and get detailed specifications. Then, if they are logged in as Administrator, (please let this be the case), I will change the Admin Password and also create a User Account Profile in my name on each Server. This will allow me to safely shut down each machine and still get into them later if need be/if necessary. Then I will shut down all three machines, pack them up for travel with the APC Rack Mount Backup Battery and take off for my Parents' place.

Monday the 12Th, I will contact Eric, (I left a phone message for him today), and arrange a meeting time to drop off the Backup Battery and the Server of his/Matt's choice for Monday. The whole day will be left open just for this... So, morning or afternoon, or whatever; doesn't matter to me. From Danville to UCB should take about half an hour maybe 45 minutes with traffic.

I'm looking forward to getting all of this finalized with Eric and Matt. If either of you have questions, call me today at home. Eric and Pappa have my number and e-Mail Address; so, Matt can get the information from them.


Sincerely,






Pappa,

Eirc has seen it; thanks for the effort. He just called me. We have plans set to meet on Monday Morning. I am really looking forward to meeting Eric, Matt, et. al., and seeing the home of SETI@Home.


Sincerely,



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Message 515141 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 2:19:25 UTC - in response to Message 515048.  
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Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I can have this to you within the next 36 hours - only question - what type of machine is this going on - Mobo ? My vendor is asking.
Do you have a preferred name brand ?



It a Dual Opteron server with a SuperMicro H8DA8 motherboard. Although we have CL2.5 memory in it now, but CL3 would probably be fine, and wouldn't kill us as much as the low memory is. The machine's primary use is as a file and database server, although Kevin cripples it with computing on a regular basis. Brand doesn't matter too much, other than it helps to have the mfg say it works with the specific board.

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Message 515164 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 2:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 515141.  




Anyway, how about letting us know what’s on the S@H shopping list?



I can have this to you within the next 36 hours - only question - what type of machine is this going on - Mobo ? My vendor is asking.
Do you have a preferred name brand ?



It a Dual Opteron server with a SuperMicro H8DA8 motherboard. Although we have CL2.5 memory in it now, but CL3 would probably be fine, and wouldn't kill us as much as the low memory is. The machine's primary use is as a file and database server, although Kevin cripples it with computing on a regular basis. Brand doesn't matter too much, other than it helps to have the mfg say it works with the specific board.

Eric



Lets get Kevin one of his own boxes then :) _ I will send this stuff out, and see what I can do quickly.
Thank you for the update.
And I did get a reply back from Matt. I sent him some information back. Let me know via email what you think.
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Message 515195 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 6:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 514992.  

I am sort of surprised that 220v is not being used already since it cuts the current requirements in half and you can run more equipment over the same size wire.
It would be very simple to convert an existing 110 run to 220v as long as the line is isolated. (They might want to run a completely new run if they are not sure or can not trace it down.) If they ran a new run with 3 + ground wire a small panel could be used to supply both 220 and 110 off the same line if necessary. In the long run this would be more flexible.
At least something to think about.
:)

With one important point that keeps being overlooked.

Berkeley does not let just anyone do electrical work on campus. It has to be done by someone from the appropriate department.

That's why it'd be far easier to adapt the server to 110v.
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Message 515207 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 6:52:23 UTC

Adding a 220 outlet may not be a simple as some here suggest. The electrical service to most commercial buildings is completely different then what you get with a residential feed. Your house may have two single phase lines coming in that when added together give you 220. A commercial building may get 480 volt or more multiple phase feed that takes special transformers and associated wiring considerations. This is due to the current requirements of large buildings. To bring 220 into the closet may require a completely different transformer which including installation would cost more than going and ordering a couple of brand new custom designed servers that run on 110 and run at light speed.

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Message 515221 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 8:28:40 UTC
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Every problem can usually be solved. How about a Step Up and Step Down Transformers.

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Message 515233 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 9:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 515221.  

Every problem can usually be solved. How about a Step Up and Step Down Transformers.


Rats, I came up with this solution yesterday and sent it to Dan, but he never replied. I wanted him to announce it to the boards. Here is what I sent him:
Here is your simplest, cheapest power solution.

http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-up-transformer-2.html#vt3000

My father used these converters at <Oil Refinery Name> in his lab. He insists that you meet the current requirements as well as make sure that grounding in the building where this is installed is sound.

1) You should make sure the plug is compatible with this device.
2) Contact Eric and get an idea of his 120V power situation.

No 8 CPU server could possibly pull this much power so you have a nice buffer zone.

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Message 515481 - Posted: 9 Feb 2007, 23:51:53 UTC

The power supply will convert the unit to use 110 vac. but also will make it more expensive to run. but it will work nicely. Sorry for not getting back to you.

I am still waiting to see if the servers will meet there specs.

chow for now.


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