The Good Things Seti Users Saw in 2006

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BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0	Message 503784 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 503780. No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. I'll go along with that. And I'll continue until I see firm hard evidence that what I am doing is NOT worth while. So far I see lots of people working their butts off and being involved in something they really believe in. I'm happy to help until I see a good enough reason not to. I'm certainly not trying to talk you out of crunching for Seti, but the simple fact of the matter is that the total number of crunchers along with the number of WU's they crunch is irrelevant. The project simply does not analyze the data we return nor are there plans to rectify the situation. ID: 503784 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503785 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:27:58 UTC - in response to Message 503777. No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. Again, you don't seem to fully understand. This isn't an efficiency issue, they simply are not analyzing the results of our WU crunching nor are they putting forth any effort to rectify the situation. Apparently deleting my signature is even more important!! Money is the key word. They don't have it. Eric has stated it several times in several threads, try reading them sometime and you'll find your answers to your questions. ID: 503785 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 503787 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 503777. I look at this and wonder what you are so worked up about, that you can waste all this time demeaning others who are trying to identify things that they have seen as progress... You have already mentioned that you are no longer "wasting cycles here." You appear to be fairly intelligent so why bog things down with all the negative crap? At least people here are "trying." Have a nice evening Pappa No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. Again, you don't seem to fully understand. This isn't an efficiency issue, they simply are not analyzing the results of our WU crunching nor are they putting forth any effort to rectify the situation. Apparently deleting my signature is even more important!! Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 503787 ·

BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0	Message 503788 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 503783. Last modified: 16 Jan 2007, 0:29:17 UTC Sure is easy to sit here and complain. Wish I could learn how to do that..... Read the link I posted. Regular users with vastly more coding experience than I have volunteered to help....guess what the response was? ID: 503788 ·

GalaxyIce Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0	Message 503789 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 503777. Last modified: 16 Jan 2007, 0:33:20 UTC No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. Again, you don't seem to fully understand. This isn't an efficiency issue, they simply are not analyzing the results of our WU crunching nor are they putting forth any effort to rectify the situation. Apparently deleting my signature is even more important!! I understand your point BrainSmashR, it seems very odd to have all that PC effort lying there unused. I'd prefer to let SETI@home do what they need to do and keep my eye on the bigger picture - that big black thing above our heads called the universe. I agree these issues should be resolved, but we also have to keep taking part and be part of moving it all forwards. No brakes on SETI@home please. flam ing balloons ID: 503789 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 503790 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:28:45 UTC - in response to Message 503665. What 2006 brought Seti Users during the year... Obviously I could give the list, but that is not the point. I know many of you have seen Good Things that are Not Often talked about. Other things get in the way. Here is your chance, to talk about things that you saw as an Improvement Regards Pappa [quote] ID: 503790 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503791 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 503787. I look at this and wonder what you are so worked up about, that you can waste all this time demeaning others who are trying to identify things that they have seen as progress... You have already mentioned that you are no longer "wasting cycles here." You appear to be fairly intelligent so why bog things down with all the negative crap? At least people here are "trying." Have a nice evening Pappa He likes to just stir the pot, easier to just ignore him Pappa. ID: 503791 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 503795 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:31:49 UTC - in response to Message 503783. Sure is easy to sit here and complain. Wish I could learn how to do that..... You'd have to believe that complaining is part of The Good Things Seti Users Saw in 2006 me@rescam.org ID: 503795 ·

kinhull Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Oct 03 Posts: 1029 Credit: 636,475 RAC: 0	Message 503799 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 503780. No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. I'll go along with that. And I'll continue until I see firm hard evidence that what I am doing is NOT worth while. So far I see lots of people working their butts off and being involved in something they really believe in. I'm happy to help until I see a good enough reason not to. I have to agree. At the end of the day I personally am only using idle cpu time of computers that I leave switched on anyway. It is because of Seti@Home that we have BOINC; and thanks to BOINC I can easily use the idle cpu of my computers for other projects I find interesting. Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. ID: 503799 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503800 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:32:39 UTC - in response to Message 503795. Sure is easy to sit here and complain. Wish I could learn how to do that..... You'd have to believe that complaining is part of The Good Things Seti Users Saw in 2006 LOL Well, if I hated SETI as much as others do, I might believe that. ID: 503800 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503801 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:33:36 UTC - in response to Message 503799. No process is 100% efficient. If they are doing what they can, then I'll do what I can with the PC time I can provide. Seems fair enough to me. I hope things get better as the resources they have increase. I'll go along with that. And I'll continue until I see firm hard evidence that what I am doing is NOT worth while. So far I see lots of people working their butts off and being involved in something they really believe in. I'm happy to help until I see a good enough reason not to. I have to agree. At the end of the day I personally am only using idle cpu time of computers that I leave switched on anyway. It is because of Seti@Home that we have BOINC; and thanks to BOINC I can easily use the idle cpu of my computers for other projects I find interesting. Very nice response Kinhull. Thank you. ID: 503801 ·

BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0	Message 503802 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:34:10 UTC - in response to Message 503789. I understand your point BrainSmashR, it seems very odd to have all that PC effort lying there unused. I'd prefer to let SETI@home do what they need to do and keep my eye on the bigger picture - that big black thing above our heads called the universe. I agree these issue should be resolved, but we also have to keep taking part and be part of moving it all forwards. No brakes on SETI@home please. The project is the one with the brakes on, with apparently no concrete plans to make any changes, not we end-users. Once again, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of crunching for Seti, just trying to make you understand that it doesn't matter if every person on the planet crunches for Seti or not one single person at all. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. ID: 503802 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 503803 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 503795. At least as long as you keep it under control, you are allowed to complain. That is a vast improvement over the last six months. Sure is easy to sit here and complain. Wish I could learn how to do that..... You'd have to believe that complaining is part of The Good Things Seti Users Saw in 2006 Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 503803 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 503825 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:48:11 UTC - in response to Message 503802. I am happy that you have such concrete evidence that no one here is aware of, certainly proof that Seti is going no where... Thank You Pappa I understand your point BrainSmashR, it seems very odd to have all that PC effort lying there unused. I'd prefer to let SETI@home do what they need to do and keep my eye on the bigger picture - that big black thing above our heads called the universe. I agree these issue should be resolved, but we also have to keep taking part and be part of moving it all forwards. No brakes on SETI@home please. The project is the one with the brakes on, with apparently no concrete plans to make any changes, not we end-users. Once again, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of crunching for Seti, just trying to make you understand that it doesn't matter if every person on the planet crunches for Seti or not one single person at all. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 503825 ·

GalaxyIce Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0	Message 503830 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 0:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 503824. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. OK, what evidence do you have that the data is NOT being analysed? All you have done so far is just repeat the statement. Thanks for asking that Chris. It is untrue, surely? flam ing balloons ID: 503830 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 503845 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 1:14:01 UTC - in response to Message 503802. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. How do you know that? "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 503845 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 503860 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 1:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 503802. I understand your point BrainSmashR, it seems very odd to have all that PC effort lying there unused. I'd prefer to let SETI@home do what they need to do and keep my eye on the bigger picture - that big black thing above our heads called the universe. I agree these issue should be resolved, but we also have to keep taking part and be part of moving it all forwards. No brakes on SETI@home please. The project is the one with the brakes on, with apparently no concrete plans to make any changes, not we end-users. Once again, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of crunching for Seti, just trying to make you understand that it doesn't matter if every person on the planet crunches for Seti or not one single person at all. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. Rome wasn't built in a day, BrainSmashr. We've got to keep it going until it gets to the point that these features are available. ;) ID: 503860 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503894 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 3:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 503824. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. OK, what evidence do you have that the data is NOT being analysed? All you have done so far is just repeat the statement. Don't expect to get the answer you want. He'll just keep throwing his "facts" out there to keep stirring the pot. ID: 503894 ·

Labbie Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 4083 Credit: 5,930,102 RAC: 0	Message 503898 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 4:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 503894. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. OK, what evidence do you have that the data is NOT being analysed? All you have done so far is just repeat the statement. Don't expect to get the answer you want. He'll just keep throwing his "facts" out there to keep stirring the pot. How about this post from Eric? Calm Chaos Forum...Join Calm Chaos Now ID: 503898 ·

KB7RZF Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2	Message 503911 - Posted: 16 Jan 2007, 5:23:16 UTC - in response to Message 503898. The amount of data analyzed will still be zero. OK, what evidence do you have that the data is NOT being analysed? All you have done so far is just repeat the statement. Don't expect to get the answer you want. He'll just keep throwing his "facts" out there to keep stirring the pot. How about this post from Eric? That still won't make BrainSmashr Happy. Everything should just work, by clicking your heels and saying the magic words. ID: 503911 ·

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