Why I can not donate

Sounds Simple, but there are reasons. I would Love that you explain reasons why it is too tough to Donate! Those are Issues that need to be resolved.

I Know that Family Comes First! Defining techincial issues that prevented you from making a donation is Important! Please take a moment to tell what you saw and why it stopped You. Then something might be done to help overcome those issues!

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Pappa

I don't have a credit card and my printer won't work. I can't print out the form for sending in a money order at the moment. Looks like I need to go to the library and borrow one of their computers....

I don't have a credit card and my printer won't work. I can't print out the form for sending in a money order at the moment. Looks like I need to go to the library and borrow one of their computers....

I don't have a credit card either. They're dangerous. I once managed to buy a whole car with just two of them. And then wished I'd got it in a different color. Technically doubley dangerous in twos.

I don't have a credit card and my printer won't work. I can't print out the form for sending in a money order at the moment. Looks like I need to go to the library and borrow one of their computers....

I don't have a credit card either. They're dangerous. I once managed to buy a whole car with just two of them. And then wished I'd got it in a different color. Technically doubley dangerous in twos.

I've just never bothered to get one....lol

I suppose I probably should....but I don't need the extra headaches of one more bill to deal with every month....

@ Nobody

Mail recieved,sir. Thank you very much. :-)

Knightmare

To just Donate is Not the reason to get one, I posted in the Donations Thread that you can obtain a Visa Gift Card that will work any where Visa is accepted. So that might be a better option. IF you are looking for a last minute gift for the holidays it could be more useful than a gift card from the rinky dink store down the road which never has what you want anyways.

There also a European Version that is available.

I will try to make sure that any information that I receive that is sharable will be posted there...

I don't have a credit card and my printer won't work. I can't print out the form for sending in a money order at the moment. Looks like I need to go to the library and borrow one of their computers....

I don't have a credit card either. They're dangerous. I once managed to buy a whole car with just two of them. And then wished I'd got it in a different color. Technically doubley dangerous in twos.

I've just never bothered to get one....lol

I suppose I probably should....but I don't need the extra headaches of one more bill to deal with every month....

@ Nobody

Mail recieved,sir. Thank you very much. :-)

Best Wishes for the Holiday Season

Pappa

The day SETI@HOME starts providing regular updates on the analysis of candidate signals (every 6 months or annually perhaps)and potential WOW's etc etc is the day i will start donating some hard earned cash.

The day SETI@HOME starts providing regular updates on the analysis of candidate signals (every 6 months or annually perhaps)and potential WOW's etc etc is the day i will start donating some hard earned cash.

To some extent, it's a classic catch-22. Progress on candidate analysis has been slow because Jeff (the person writing the candidate analysis software) has been spending much of the last year trying to get us a new ISP (which would save us several kilobucks a month). But that required that we get a router at the PAIX (Palo Alto Internet eXchange), one on campus, one here, an upgrade of the campus-SSL link to dual gigabit fibers, an IP address block from ARIN, various memoranda of understanding between us and campus, contracts with the ISP with modifications from campus, etc. It's taken 14 months and we're not hooked up to the new ISP yet. It would have been nice to hire someone to do this, so Jeff could work on science, but how could we afford to do that?

I can't work on science on the website because I'm trying to get the multibeam effort up and running and trying to get astropulse back on track. Matt's working full time keeping us up and running. Dan is busy on hardware efforts and wouldn't know how to edit a web site anyway.

I'd like to promise that donating would allow us to hire someone to do enough of the rest of this stuff. But chances are we won't take in enough to do so. But not taking in enough money means we all go down to part time work which means even more delays.

In other words, if we had enough money to hire enough people to do everything we want to do and everything everyone wants us to do, we wouldn't need to ask for donations.

Eric

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

The day SETI@HOME starts providing regular updates on the analysis of candidate signals (every 6 months or annually perhaps)and potential WOW's etc etc is the day i will start donating some hard earned cash.

To some extent, it's a classic catch-22. Progress on candidate analysis has been slow because Jeff (the person writing the candidate analysis software) has been spending much of the last year trying to get us a new ISP (which would save us several kilobucks a month). But that required that we get a router at the PAIX (Palo Alto Internet eXchange), one on campus, one here, an upgrade of the campus-SSL link to dual gigabit fibers, an IP address block from ARIN, various memoranda of understanding between us and campus, contracts with the ISP with modifications from campus, etc. It's taken 14 months and we're not hooked up to the new ISP yet. It would have been nice to hire someone to do this, so Jeff could work on science, but how could we afford to do that?

I can't work on science on the website because I'm trying to get the multibeam effort up and running and trying to get astropulse back on track. Matt's working full time keeping us up and running. Dan is busy on hardware efforts and wouldn't know how to edit a web site anyway.

I'd like to promise that donating would allow us to hire someone to do enough of the rest of this stuff. But chances are we won't take in enough to do so. But not taking in enough money means we all go down to part time work which means even more delays.

In other words, if we had enough money to hire enough people to do everything we want to do and everything everyone wants us to do, we wouldn't need to ask for donations.

Eric

The day SETI@HOME starts providing regular updates on the analysis of candidate signals (every 6 months or annually perhaps)and potential WOW's etc etc is the day i will start donating some hard earned cash.

To some extent, it's a classic catch-22. Progress on candidate analysis has been slow because Jeff (the person writing the candidate analysis software) has been spending much of the last year trying to get us a new ISP (which would save us several kilobucks a month). But that required that we get a router at the PAIX (Palo Alto Internet eXchange), one on campus, one here, an upgrade of the campus-SSL link to dual gigabit fibers, an IP address block from ARIN, various memoranda of understanding between us and campus, contracts with the ISP with modifications from campus, etc. It's taken 14 months and we're not hooked up to the new ISP yet. It would have been nice to hire someone to do this, so Jeff could work on science, but how could we afford to do that?

I can't work on science on the website because I'm trying to get the multibeam effort up and running and trying to get astropulse back on track. Matt's working full time keeping us up and running. Dan is busy on hardware efforts and wouldn't know how to edit a web site anyway.

I'd like to promise that donating would allow us to hire someone to do enough of the rest of this stuff. But chances are we won't take in enough to do so. But not taking in enough money means we all go down to part time work which means even more delays.

In other words, if we had enough money to hire enough people to do everything we want to do and everything everyone wants us to do, we wouldn't need to ask for donations.

Eric

Thanks for the explanation Eric, this is the first time someone who knows what's going on has responded with a reasonable answer on the state of affairs of seti@home. I appreciate your frankness.

However (but?) I cannot understand how candidate analysis would not be given 'top' priority as without this in place 'all the crunching in the world' is virtually worthless.

More and more people are starting to ask questions about 'progress'. The response is usually silence or 'oh it will take a long time to find a WOW signal' and when anyone delves a little deeper they realise that there in actual fact isn't any analysis and correlation being done!!

How can you get serious about sponsorship if the science is not being conducted in a manner which could yield results? Perhaps as you say it’s a question of priorities. Every project has priority conflicts, however if those on the ‘critical path’ are not identified surely the endeavour will fail. Even if a rough schedule to have analysis in place was publicised it would attract more sponsorship! When I was reading about the 'real-time analysis' I got really excited.... but then nothing. Missing targets is better than having no target at all.

IMO the long term objectives of the project and potential failure are imminent if candidate analysis is not in place. People will come and go (likely never to return), and the growth that has been observed in the last 12 months will not continue for ever..... Getting people back is hard than keeping them.

Jeebus, that's bitter. Nothing you have said here could be any more apparent to Eric, et al.

Shut it down if you aren't happy. The global warming types would be proud of you.

Jeebus, that's bitter. Nothing you have said here could be any more apparent to Eric, et al.

Shut it down if you aren't happy. The global warming types would be proud of you.

There is nothing bitter about it,if you choose to read this into my post then so be it. All i have stated are some simple facts about the reality of this endeavour which although may not 'be nice to face' are in fact the truth of the matter at hand. Take it or leave it.

Yes i understand that these guys are working flat out on getting other modules built etc, but if there was a project timeline for 'candidate analysis' i cannot see any harm and only benefits for marketing and fund raising for the projects future.

Today i saw another new thread posted in the Science forum asking for progress of candidates!? Go figure.... and yes, most of my crunching is on other projects and has been for some time for the reasons stated.

I´ve done the first donation for members without credit card.

But i had some trouble with firefox.
IE 7 worked just fine.
But the admins could have a look at it sometime.
Its very hard for no native english speakers, had to try ten times.

The part wich we have to fill out the CAL thing is really confusing.

I wrote some mails last night but no one could help me.
So i think its causing troubles not only for me.

ES didnt get you my mail.

regards Mike

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me